Ryanair

[Tinkerman]

Nothing too interesting really, just comes down to aircraft utilisation at TFS. There's obviously somewhere more profitable to send the aircraft in Summer than CWL.

 

[Tinkerman]

Nothing too interesting really, just comes down to aircraft utilisation at TFS. There's obviously somewhere more profitable to send the aircraft in Summer than CWL.

 

[Jerry]

Surely the same could be said of the other flight? In the end if Ryanair aren't going to expand their offerings at CWL then why are they bothering with just 1 flight a week?

 

[superking]

if tfs is loaded at 1 per week then I would think that would be it.if down to 1 per week then would think fr not happy with pax numbers or yield. they do work in strange ways sometimes.
don't forget that the main season for tfs is our winter time,so our summer the route does suffer at odd times.lets hope they do up the route but I would not bet on it.

 

[Jerry]

From what i've seen of the load factors for May then it was 93%. Haven't seen June's. And i would be surprised if Ryanair couldn't sell out and make money in the summer from a 2 weekly TFS from CWL.

 

[marsh.ger]

There is a lot of capacity to Tenerife in the summer between Thomas Cook & Thomson and maybe Ryanair doesn't feel confident that they could fill two flights to Tenerife from Cardiff without impacting their own yield.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Load factors, as we all know, are only a part of the jigsaw but not the overriding one which is yield. On the face of it Ryanair, perhaps more than most airlines, will axe or reduce routs that appear (looking at passenger loads) to be performing exceptionally well.

As has been said, a route might be enjoying high loads but still not be bringing in an acceptable yield or, again as has been pointed out, it could be that somewhere else will provide an even better yield.

Ryanair invariably introduces new routes or increases capacity on existing ones throughout the months leading up to a new season - BRS has seen this sort of thing many times down its Ryanair years - so new FR route/s or the return of 2 x weekly on the TFS next summer might not be entirely out of the question.

 

[Jerry]

They can be an unpredictable airline! Someone on another forum mentioned a rumor about an Alicante route by Ryanair which is doing really well under Vueling but i'd be surprised if it that came about but then who knows with Ryanair!

 

[Jerry]

CAA Stats June 2016

TFS 1743 average per flight 174 LF 92%

 

[Jerry]

New destination from Ryanair Faro 2 weekly Monday and Friday. Bookable from 27th March 2017. Greece was also mentioned but nothing is bookable. Will be interesting to see if Flybe reduce their Faro rotations.
Just to edit i've been told the Greece bit was a mistake on live radio.
Also wondering if there could be more on the horizon from Ryanair? There was a wikipedia update on the Ryanair destinations from CWL that said Faro, Malaga and Girona? Case of lets wait and see.

 

[superking]

Greece has been in the drop down box for about 2 years.

 

[marsh.ger]

Ryanair scheduled for Summer 2017

Monday

FR9223 Faro 08:45 Cardiff 11:25
FR9224 Cardiff 11:50 Faro 14:30

Thursday

FR4761 Tenerife 06:55 Cardiff 10:50
FR4760 Cardiff 11:15 Tenerife 15:20

Friday

FR9223 Faro 16:20 Cardiff 19:00
FR9224 Cardiff 19:25 Faro 22:05

 

[TheLocalYokel]

No surprise to me that Ryanair has dipped its foot further into the CWL lake. The surprise is that it took so long and I was expecting some of the Spanish sun routes to feature, but that's not to say that I'm surprised about Faro. I'm not.

It's a good sign for CWL because it means that Ryanair might well be looking at further routes, particularly sun routes.

Incidentally, looking at BRS-FAO for next summer the frequency is daily every month. This summer it was daily most months but 8 x weekly in July and 12 x weekly in August. With easyJet's 13 x weekly it meant there were 25 scheduled flights each week to FAO in August. Possibly a bit too many.

The fact that Ryanair has reduced BRS-FAO in peak summer but added both CWL and NQY might mean they are taking note of the million-plus passengers that use BRS each year from both South Wales and Devon/Cornwall. On that basis one or two other popular sun routes might follow but they'd be taking on Vueling at CWL then, not Flybe.

I add the rider that in the approach to summer 16 Ryanair consistently added rotations at BRS on many routes over and above the original frequencies. They might do so again and/or they might do so at CWL and/or NQY.

 

[superking]

well done to cwl for adding fao. I hope it works out ok for fr and be. but I do fear a little for be on fao. perhaps they should leave fao to fr and do a route into france.to keep theirselves away from fr.

 

[Jerry]

No surprise to me that Ryanair has dipped its foot further into the CWL lake.

It may be that in Roger Lewis and WAG's view that the airport needs Ryanair. Ryanair is a massive brand and can not only attract pax back from BRS but potential investors.
An airport which has either a 2 or 3 aircraft base from Ryanair or a substantial amount of Ryanair destinations is more likely to attract investors than an airport with just a Flybe base. Plus no one knows if Flybe will base aircraft at CWL after the E195's go back so maybe the airport are hoping to try and get Ryanair as the main based airline rather than Flybe because Ryanair is a bigger name than Flybe and can attract a lot more pax back from BRS even on routes like EDI. Hopefully more routes will be announced!

 

[TheLocalYokel]

I'd be surprised if there is not at least a bit more to come from Ryanair in the short term. Looking at NQY which is seeing spectacular percentage passenger number rises too, they have (or will have next summer) Ryanair flights to that airline's version of Frankfurt at Hahn, plus Alicante and Faro.

 

[Jerry]

I'd be surprised if there is not at least a bit more to come from Ryanair in the short term. Looking at NQY which is seeing spectacular percentage passenger number rises too, they have (or will have next summer) Ryanair flights to that airline's version of Frankfurt at Hahn, plus Alicante and Faro.

Aberdeen got Faro, Alicante and Malaga all new. I'm guessing it depends on when and where Ryanair bases new aicraft. I know it was a Wikipedia post but i do wonder if CWL could still get Malaga and Girona. Also if as Roger Lewis says it's a new relationship wit Ryanair then maybe some new routes will arrive. CWL doesn't have direct flights to southern Italy or scheduled to Greece and they don't have direct flights to Eastern Europe and Ryanair does have a large presence there. And depending on how many flights they do it may be possible for Ryanair and Vueling to coexist on the Spanish routes. Alicante and Malaga should be able to both be daily flights even with 2 airlines.

 

[superking]

I cant see Fr doing any thing new to Greece than what they doing now from other air ports,due to the unrest out that way.mind you I could be proven wrong.

 

[Jerry]

You never know with Ryanair but more than likely any new routes will be to Spain. Be surprised if they launched anything to Italy I think that might be down to Vueling to launch. One which they might consider could be Gran Canaria once a week. That would be a nice addition.

 

[Jerry]

Ryanair TFS 2016 July passenger numbers were 1385.