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Ryanair threatens to cut Prestwick routes

Budget airline Ryanair has threatened to cut routes at Prestwick amid a sharp downturn in aviation.

The Irish no-frills operator said all 28 routes from the Ayrshire airport were "under review" following talks held yesterday with management to discuss performance.

Maria Macken, Ryanair's UK marketing executive, said that relocating routes to other airports in Europe was a likelihood unless further support could be offered to the airline.

She blamed passenger taxes levied by the government for putting pressure on Ryanair's operating costs, claiming the airline was susbsidising the price of its tickets.

"We're having to lower our fares in order to get people flying. But that's not sustainable," she said.

"If we feel we can get better value elsewhere, we will do that. If we can operate for less, we will do that. That's why we're calling on the airport and government to get rid of costs."

Prestwick, which along with Edinburgh is one of two Scottish bases used by Ryanair, saw a 9.6% reduction in passenger numbers in January, compared with the same month last year, amid a steep downturn in aviation.

While this has affected airports across the UK, Ryanair's position at Prestwick contrasts with Edinburgh, where it last week announced the addition of 10 further European routes.

The airline has carried out a campaign against the Airport Passenger Duty tax in the UK, which is due to increase from £10 to £11 per-passenger, per-flight, in November.

It last month announced that it was axing routes and jobs at Dublin Airport, blaming the Irish government's imposition of airport taxes. Ryanair also said last week's announcement to launch three new bases in Italy was due to the lack of airport taxation there.

Any reduction of routes would be particularly damaging for Prestwick, which in January announced a cost-cutting review which could see a reduction in its 500-strong workforce.

A spokesman for the airport said yesterday: "We support Ryanair's view that Air Passenger Duty is having a hugely damaging effect on passenger activity, particularly as the global economic downturn continues, and we would welcome any moves to reconsider it."

However, he stressed that decreasing passenger numbers were affecting airports across the UK.

In November, Ryanair announced that it was pulling out of Blackpool International Airport, blaming charges levied by the airport, prompting a 63% slump in year-on-year passenger numbers in January.

However, aviation analysts questioned whether Prestwick could offer further incentives to its main commercial carrier, given the tight margins it operates on and comparatively low airport charges it levies, compared to Glasgow, Edinburgh and Aberdeen airports.

Iain Smith, commercial director at consultancy RDC Aviation, predicted that Ryanair's long-term passenger numbers were still likely to grow. He said: "Although Ryanair may make slight alterations to their destination network from Prestwick it is unlikely that there will be any significant decreases in overall traffic. If anything further expansion to other popular Ryanair airports could be expected over the next few years"

Meanwhile, British Airways announced yesterday it is to sell 11 of its 15 Boeing 757 aircraft, with the planes leaving the airline's fleet between 2010 and 2012.

Four 757s operated by BA's subsidiary carrier OpenSkies, which flies from Paris and Amsterdam to New York, will remain in the fleet. The 757s will be replaced in BA's short-haul fleet by planes from the Airbus A320 series.

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From the day that Ryanair announced that they were setting up a base in Edinburgh, I have argued that they would then be looking for an excuse to close their Prestwick operations. Edinburgh seems to be their new toy and they don't want to play with their old toy anymore. Yes, Ryanair have been good for PIK, bur PIK have also been good for Ryanair, who seem to forget that Prestwick have given them low landing charges for many years in the past , at a time when they wouldn't have touched Edinburgh with a bargepole, due to their high BAA landing charges. All of a sudden, EDI offer them a better deal and they turn their backs on PIK. This is unacceptable behaviour by Ryanair, but it is indeed a warning to any airport which is dominated by one airline, as in Prestwick's case. What makes no sense is that Prestwick's landing charges are still less than those at Edinburgh, yet Prestwick is the airport being given the 'warning' by the airline. No new routes since last October tells its own story for PIK, while Edinburgh is given routes galore by Ryanair. Ryanair know that, should they pull out of PIK, that will spell the end for the airport. Sad indeed. However, a warning to any other airport that might be feeling smug over this - if Ryanair can behave like this towards Prestwick, your time may well come in the future, so beware!
 
Ryanair threatened Liverpool Airport a few months ago saying the increased UK air passenger duty would have a detrimental effect on its services there. If that is/was the case then it must apply to all UK Ryanair bases but for some reason LPL was singled out - probably as a general signal to it and pour encourager les autres.

The airline dumped both Cardiff and Birmingham a few years ago, ostensibly because it was unhappy with the airports' charges, but has since made up with BHX and is now building a fair-sized base there.

A few months after Ryanair opened its Bristol base in 2007 the airline publicly threatened to close it if the airport increased its charges. It made a nice little headline in the local paper.

No sentiment in business of course and airlines are businesses with a duty to their shareholders.

Airports that rely heavily on one airline are certainly in a weak position when it comes to negotiations with that airline, especially if it is one like Ryanair or even Flybe, a mini Ryanair in my eyes in the way it will try to overtly bully airports such as Exeter over which it has a stranglehold.

There will come a time though when a one-airline or nearly one-airline airport can be wrung no more or it will begin to haemorrhage money if it yields to its customer airline's demands further.

Like business negotiation generally things can almost become a game of bluff.

Does the airline really want to pull out because if it does, and even though the airport can't/won't reduce charges any more, will it really do better somewhere else?

Can the airport really afford a bottom line and reject its airline customer out of hand once that line has been reached because the airline might not be bluffing?

The airline is invariably in the stronger position because it can usually easily go elsewhere whereas the airport can't and can only hope someone else might step in to replace its departing airline customer, not such an easy task for smallish airports.

SJM is absolutely right in saying that any of the Ryanair bases could be the next in the firing line.
 
10 departures a week have been cut at the moment mostly with BHD being cut to daily
 
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Ryanair reviews Prestwick operations

HUGE taxes could hit the Ryanair success story at Prestwick Airport.

The budget carrier is warning of uncertain times ahead unless a £10 flight duty is lowered by the government.

Bosses at the Irish airline are reviewing their operations at the Ayrshire base.

And while they won’t scale back on their 28 destinations, Ryanair know time is running out.

Marketing executive Maria Macken warned: “These are very difficult times in the UK and we’re not being helped by the government.

“The £10 airport tax which is applied to all fares is having a huge effect on business.

“We’re looking for low-cost bases and these are increasingly being found outside of the UK.

“We have no reason to scale back our operation at Prestwick right now, but we’re also not in a position to expand.”

The message is sure to come as a further blow to Prestwick, following recent job losses at the airport.

Ryanair have flown from the hub since 1994 and their success now impacts heavily on the airport’s future.

Ms Macken added: “Prestwick has been good for us and is a popular tourist destination in itself with a lot of inbound flights.

“We’ve recently launched another Scottish base at Edinburgh, but there’s no plan to move flights across there.

“We just have to realise that we can’t tax our way out of a recession, and if we’re going to develop then costs have to come down.”

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We have talked about Ryanair's claims before in other threads on this forum. I find it difficult to believe that the UK aviation tax burden is the main problem Ryanair faces here. Why would Ryanair talk about dropping routes from PIK and yet release new routes from other UK airports such as Bristol, East Midlands and Birmingham. I suspect it's more likely to be a case of Ryanair playing games with airports.
 
They seem to forget that these 'games' that they are playing affect the airport staff''s livelihoods.
 
TheLocalYokel said:
Ryanair threatened Liverpool Airport a few months ago saying the increased UK air passenger duty would have a detrimental effect on its services there. If that is/was the case then it must apply to all UK Ryanair bases but for some reason LPL was singled out - probably as a general signal to it and pour encourager les autres.

Aviador,

I think we are singing (though you wouldn't want to hear me try to sing) from the same hymn sheet on this.
 
Ryanair to add Prestwick flights

Ryanair is to increase its flights from Prestwick Airport, an Ayrshire MP told the Post. Brian Donohoe says he is 'cautiously optimistic' that the budget airline will increase its schedule from the Ayrshire airport.

Mr Donohoe contacted Ryanair over concerns that the airline was winding down its operation at Prestwick, as its winter timetable currently shows only half of the airline’s schedule compared to last year. But Ryanair boss Michael Cawley told him that the full timetable contains much more. He told Mr Donohoe: ‘I expect many of the routes to appear in our schedule when it is completed this year.’

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The games continue with Ryanair this week with their pledge for more flights. Haven't we heard all this before? Hmm!
 
Reports suggest that Ryanair are to cut upto 50% of it's flights from Glasgow Prestwick. Can any of you locals confirm this?
 
From the winter timetable, routes from PIK to Rome Ciampino, Pisa, Frankfurt Hahn, Stockholm Skavsta, Marseille, Reus, Milan Bergamo and Budapest all appear to be ceasing. This comes on top of routes from Prestwick to Bournemouth and Krakow being scrapped just last week. Ryanair's Michael Cawley has been quoted as saying that the full timetable has not yet been loaded and that more of the above routes will eventually show as continuing. This seems strange as their winter timetable from other airports does already appear to be showing on their website. Up until last week, the Prestwick to Wroclaw route was also showing as ceasing from the winter timetable, but has this route has now reappeared as twice a week on the Ryanair website, so who knows.
 
When asked whether the new routes at Bristol Airport would be continued through the winter (many of them won't be, they are obviously summer only) a Ryanair spokeswoman was quoted in the local Bristol evening newspaper to the effect that she couldn't comment but that all the winter schedule will be loaded into their system by September, so this does suggest there is more to come.

I know that Birmingham Airport at present seems very low on flights/routes (relatively speaking) for the coming winter and this suggests either major problems for Ryanair or, much more likely, more winter routes to be announced/confirmed.
 
[textarea]Ryanair plan ‘major flights reduction’ from Prestwick

Ryanair is planning a major reduction in services from Prestwick Airport this winter, The Herald has reported. The newspaper says that its seating capacity is to be cut by nearly a third and its number of routes from the Ayrshire hub reduced from 24 to 16.

The budget airline is facing pressure from a downturn in aviation and a rise in government passenger duty, but has so far largely maintained its destination network from Prestwick during this summer's schedule. However, its agreement to base planes at Edinburgh Airport is reported to have had a dramatic impact on passenger numbers at Prestwick, which have been compounded by the recession.

Both the airline and airport said talks over the winter schedule, which is due to begin in October, were ongoing and flights could yet be added. However, scheduling information used within the industry, based on information supplied by airlines, shows a 30% reduction in Ryanair's seating capacity at Prestwick this December compared to a year earlier, while the network of destinations served has been reduced by eight.

Ryanair has already axed services to Bournemouth and Krakow. Among the routes due to go in October are Budapest, Milan, Rome, Stockholm, Marseille and Frankfurt Hahn.

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It's only about a week since Ryanair said that they were looking to expand from PIK. These guys are loosing peoples complete confidence. It's a wonder any passengers are still flying with them at all.
 
Few!! That's good news. It must be a welcomed relief for the PIK locals. :yahoo:
 
red dug said:
Humberside said:
FR are adding Alicante, Palma, Ibiza, Gran Canaria and Fuerteventura, and increasing frequencies to Tenerife, Faro, Malaga as a replacement (at least in part) for the previously mentioned cuts

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/gla ... 174200.stm
Its not FUE Humberside its Lanzarote its a lot better than what it was looking the increases for next summer are
TFS 5 weekly
AGP 6 weekly
FAO 4 weekly
Looking at the website last night TFS goes from 2 to 4 weekly in October
 
Report in the scotsman FR spokesman says they hope to finalise winter schedules this week from PIK and EDI report says they hope to have more routes than last year time will tell
PS BGY reinstated 3 weekly for winter
 
The Ryanair winter schedule is very poor looking though the new sunshine routes are doing ok some days i think theres only 3 of the 5 units flying
 

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