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[Jerry]

Are these the lengths they are now

I'd say it was more down to lack of demand hence why the double dropping.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

I note that both LS departures yesterday were "double-drop" using BRS en-route to their final destination, one of which was delayed for over 2hrs!

Are these the lengths they are now going to in order to satisfy current demand?

I'd say it was more down to lack of demand hence why the double dropping.

There were posts last week in the LBA Jet2 thread saying that some flights from there were joint flights with NCL and STN. Jet2 doubtless judge that it's better to have one full aircraft with punters from two UK airports than half-full ones from one UK airport.

In the 1980s and 1990s it was quite a common practice, with BRS and CWL particularly linked. Inter European Airways, Cardiff-based Aspro Travel's in-house airline, would often do it.

Around 1990 my wife and I flew to Cyprus for a holiday. The carrier was Air 2000, later First Choice Airways, and the Boeing 757 had begun its journey to Paphos from BHX part-loaded and filled up at BRS en route.

The return to BHX called in at BRS to offload the passengers from there.

 

[CM.]

I note that both LS departures yesterday were "double-drop" using BRS en-route to their final destination, one of which was delayed for over 2hrs!

Are these the lengths they are now going to in order to satisfy current demand?

Yes, they’ve been doing this a lot during the pandemic. As the flights are not full there’s room to accommodate two flights into one. And also it probably saves them money as using two aircraft nearly empty is costly rather than using one. So IMO it’s a cost saving move, but hopefully when travel restrictions ease further flights will hopefully be direct as there will be more people travelling.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

Completely made up numbers but

Cost for MAN TFS - £175,000
Cost for BRS TFS - £125,000
Cost for MAN BRS - £20,000.

If you flew MAN BRS TFS - Total Cost £145,000. Total saving £155,000. You sort of understand the decision making when loads are light. I'm not sure how other carriers are doing but one would suspect Jet2 are more cautious about this then for example Ryanair who will just fly it anyway (or cancel).

Of course no one has any numbers to hand and I would think for all airlines that's sensitive information. These are just stab in the dark figures to present the situation and why it is done.

 

[Foxlimayankee]

If they are doing this then the next Airports passengers would need to disembark, clear immigration and customs and go back through security before boarding the airport again. Any international arrivals, all passengers need to clear the processes at the first point of arrival.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

Not sure that is the way with outbound as it could be seen as 'domestic' as it is in reality a domestic flight. I think the rules @Foxlimayankee you are alluding to are on return journeys.

I know a friend who did one of the flights last October went via somewhere in the UK, they remained on board whilst the passengers boarded. No de boarding. Only on return journey was it de board.

 

[CM.]

If they are doing this then the next Airports passengers would need to disembark, clear immigration and customs and go back through security before boarding the airport again. Any international arrivals, all passengers need to clear the processes at the first point of arrival.

Even if they did do that I don’t see the point. It just causes unnecessary delays. And if it’s to clear immigration why? They did that at their departing airport.

 

[Foxlimayankee]

Not sure that is the way with outbound as it could be seen as 'domestic' as it is in reality a domestic flight. I think the rules @Foxlimayankee you are alluding to are on return journeys.

I know a friend who did one of the flights last October went via somewhere in the UK, they remained on board whilst the passengers boarded. No de boarding. Only on return journey was it de board.

My bad, I assumed they were returning flights. Outbound flights isn't a problem.

Even if they did do that I don’t see the point. It just causes unnecessary delays. And if it’s to clear immigration why? They did that at their departing airport.

You don't clear immigration at the departure point abroad, unless you're going to the states via someone like DUB that has pre-clearance. Checks may get done but you'd still need to clear immigration in the UK regardless.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

BRS press release re winter 2022/2023

Jet2.com and Jet2holidays put Winter sun on sale from Bristol Airport for 2022/23

Jet2.com and Jet2holidays have put a range of exciting Winter Sun destinations on sale for Winter 22/23, giving customers from Bristol Airport the chance to get in and book some winter sunshine nice and early.

www.bristolairport.co.uk

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

It’s clear the rest of the programme isn’t on sale however I wonder what influence the large easyJet presence will have for Jet2s ski programme?

TLY I presume you’ll have more details re: BRS and yesteryears ski programmes by tui/easyJet and previously TC.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

It’s clear the rest of the programme isn’t on sale however I wonder what influence the large easyJet presence will have for Jet2s ski programme?

TLY I presume you’ll have more details re: BRS and yesteryears ski programmes by tui/easyJet and previously TC.

BRS has had an extensive winter ski programme for many years. This was the programme for winter 19-20 (obviously cut short when the pandemic came along) as set out in my post of February 2020 in the BRS Winter Ski thread (in blue below).

Incidentally, Jet2 has been used as a carrier for tour companies from BRS in past years both for the ski season and winter sun. One winter a 737 was invariably parked up for most of the week as its work from BRS then was limited.

Many of the easyJet routes and some of the Ryanair routes are year-round routes and not used solely for the ski season.

Post #4 in this thread suggests that Salzburg and Grenoble were on the original list of Jet2 destinations - presumably these two winter only for 21-22. If they are no longer being advertised it might well be the case that Jet2 has decided it cannot profitably add anything to the BRS ski programme.

Weekly charters winter 2019-2020

Saturdays

Innsbruck TUI B738*
Geneva TUI B738
Verona TUI B738
Innsbruck Austrian Airlines A320
Chambery TUI B738
Salzburg TUI B738
Sofia Enter Air B738

* was originally advertised as Memmingen but operated to Innsbruck through the season

Sundays

Chambery Enter Air B738
Turin TUI B738

That's two fewer than last season. Changes are the once-weekly Thomas Cook to Geneva and the once-weekly Flybe to Lleida both of which are non-operational. In addition one of two Austrian Saturday flights is not operating this season but has effectively been replaced by the TUI flight

At certain times in the season additional charter flights to Chambery and Sofia operated.

BRS's healthy network of scheduled flights to ski destinations is as vibrant as ever with the following airlines' weekly total of rotations to each destination listed:

easyJet

Geneva 22
Barcelona 10
Venice Marco Polo 7
Basel 4
Innsbruck 3
Grenoble 3
Toulouse 3
Vienna 3
Milan Malpensa 3
Salzburg 2
Lyon 2
Sofia 2
Pisa 2
Turin 1

Ryanair

Venice Marco Polo 5
Milan Malpensa 3
Milan Bergamo 3
Bucharest 2
Sofia 1
Grenoble 1
Turn 1

Total 83 (11 more than the previous ski season)

 

[Marko1]

No ski flights are on sale for 22/23 yet from any uk base

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

@TheLocalYokel thank you for that. It would seem the affluence of the catchment area of BRS justify's the existence of such a large operation from easyJet with Ryanair of course wanting to cash in on some of the demand with TUI offering what they usually offer - Saturday service only.

Currently as things stand for Jet2 this winter they too seem to be following TUI's suit and offering weekly services to Chambery, Innsbruck, Salzburg on a Saturday and Grenoble on a Sunday. Geneva is off sale as you would expect given 22 weekly services from the orange lot. What we don't know and probably won't know at this stage is what charter contracts/services they've picked up for ski operators. I know Jet2 are quite large in Kittila Airport having looked at that on flight radar a number of times seeing a number of Jet2 aircraft heading north during W19/20 (which was drastically cut short). That both for Lapland/Xmas stuff and Ski season which seems to be coming a different but popular destination away from your usual resorts around the Alps.

@Marko1 indeed it is not however it's a discussion point to be had given that within weeks I can see the ski stuff been put on sale.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

@TheLocalYokel thank you for that. It would seem the affluence of the catchment area of BRS justify's the existence of such a large operation from easyJet with Ryanair of course wanting to cash in on some of the demand with TUI offering what they usually offer - Saturday service only.

Currently as things stand for Jet2 this winter they too seem to be following TUI's suit and offering weekly services to Chambery, Innsbruck, Salzburg on a Saturday and Grenoble on a Sunday. Geneva is off sale as you would expect given 22 weekly services from the orange lot. What we don't know and probably won't know at this stage is what charter contracts/services they've picked up for ski operators. I know Jet2 are quite large in Kittila Airport having looked at that on flight radar a number of times seeing a number of Jet2 aircraft heading north during W19/20 (which was drastically cut short). That both for Lapland/Xmas stuff and Ski season which seems to be coming a different but popular destination away from your usual resorts around the Alps.

@Marko1 indeed it is not however it's a discussion point to be had given that within weeks I can see the ski stuff been put on sale.

easyJet operated to Kittila from BRS for two or three ski season at 2/3 weekly. I either forgot to include them in my post of February 2020 outlining the 19/20 ski programme (the post copied in blue in my previous post) or they had ceased to operate the route in 19/20. I forget which now. Prior to Kittila easyJet operated a BRS service to Ivalo at roughly the same frequency.

Neither the Kittila nor the Ivalo flights ever appeared in the easyJet booking engine which led me to believe they were operating for a tour company or companies. Do you know if the Jet2 Kittila services that you mentioned appeared in their flight-only booking system or would they, like easyJet apparently was from BRS, a carrier for tour companies?

As to Geneva, TUI also operates a weekly flight there in the ski season alongside the large easyJet offering as did Thomas Cook before going out of business.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

I believe all Kittila services by Jet2 were all charters. From my memory of seeing them on flight radar and it's a destination currently not on the drop down list.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

I was chatting with one of our grandsons earlier yesterday. Next summer he and his girlfriend are flying to Cyprus (Larnaca) for a week with a lot of other people. It's in connection with a friend's wedding.

They all come from the Bristol area but have booked with Jet2 Holidays from Birmingham Airport as the holiday is considerably cheaper per person from there than with Jet2 Holidays from Bristol.

In total about 60 people are flying out for the wedding although they might not all be using Jet2.

This sort of thing would be disappointing for the BRS management as they will obviously hope that the new Jet2 base at their airport prospers.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

The trouble is that when you have 5 weekly flights out of Birmingham it will be cheaper as there is more holidays/seats to sell etc as opposed to a 1 weekly flight out of Bristol.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

The trouble is that when you have 5 weekly flights out of Birmingham it will be cheaper as there is more holidays/seats to sell etc as opposed to a 1 weekly flight out of Bristol.

Indeed. I had realised that and it might apply to other destinations with Jet2.

Jet2 will be competing with TUI (3 x weekly) and easyJet (2 x weekly) from BRS to Larnaca which one might have thought would make their BRS prices more competitive, and also because they are a new company to BRS looking to build some decent market share. It also seems that Jet2 from BHX must have been cheaper than these other BRS options too.

The grandson in question is not interested in aviation except as a means of travelling from A to B . Someone else booked the flights for the group as a whole but our grandson did mention that TUI from BRS was dearer than Jet2 at BHX as well.

I suppose it depends on how many people from the BRS catchment are willing to travel to BHX if most of the flights/holidays are cheaper from there. I say 'if'. I don't know for certain that they all are. Larnaca on the dates in question is just one instance. It might not be typical. Presumably Jet2 would have a good idea of how many people from the BRS catchment have been using their flights from BHX in the past.

 

[Marko1]

I think it’s swings and roundabouts depending on internet search traffic etc. I’ve just looked at the 11/7/22 and it’s marginally cheaper from Brs than Bhx with a 3 star hotel as an example.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

BRS Press release.

Jet2.com and Jet2holidays put even more Winter Sun destinations on sale for 22/23 from Bristol Airport

Just weeks after announcing an exciting Winter Sun programme for 2022/23, Jet2.com and Jet2holidays have put even more Winter Sun destinations on sale from Bristol Airport, in response to strong demand from customers and independent travel agents.

www.bristolairport.co.uk

Jet2.com and Jet2holidays put even more Winter Sun destinations on sale for 22/23 from Bristol Airport​

Created: 16th Aug 2021

Just weeks after announcing an exciting Winter Sun programme for 2022/23, Jet2.com and Jet2holidays have put even more Winter Sun destinations on sale from Bristol Airport, in response to strong demand from customers and independent travel agents.

The addition of these destinations, on top of those already on sale, means the UK’s leading tour operator to destinations across Europe, the Mediterranean and Canary Islands currently has a choice of ten Winter Sun destinations on sale for Winter 22/23 from Bristol Airport.

With almost 30 weekly flights currently available from Bristol Airport for Winter 22/23, the leading leisure airline and package holiday specialist are offering customers and independent travel agents plenty of choice and flexibility when it comes to getting away next Winter.

The additional Winter Sun destinations going on sale for Winter 22/23 from Bristol Airport include Alicante, Faro (Algarve) and Majorca. These popular Winter Sun destinations are in addition to the existing hotspots already on sale which include the Canary Islands (Tenerife, Lanzarote, Gran Canaria, and Fuerteventura) as well as Madeira, Turkey (Antalya) and Cyprus (Paphos).

With multiple weekly services to many of these destinations throughout the winter season from early-November through to the end of April, customers can book the duration of holiday that suits them. The full breakdown of the new Winter Sun destinations on sale is as follows:

• Alicante (two weekly services)
• Faro (up to two weekly services)
• Majorca (up to two weekly services in April)

As well as booking and travelling on award-winning flights and ATOL protected package holidays to these destinations, customers can get to experience and enjoy the company’s VIP customer service which has seen Jet2.com and Jet2holidays win high-profile accolades before and during the pandemic, such as Which? Recommended Provider and TripAdvisor’s Best Airline – UK and Top 10 Airlines of the World.

This VIP customer service includes friendly flight times and a generous 22kg baggage allowance through a flight-only booking with Jet2.com, which saw the airline win five accolades at the 2020 TripAdvisor Travellers’ Choice® Awards for Airlines; or that very same VIP customer service, in-resort Customer Helpers, transfers, free child places and ATOL protection with the UK’s second largest tour operator, Jet2holidays. As well as a choice of thousands of 2-5 star hotels through Jet2holidays, customers can also enjoy all the benefits of a package holiday but with the added privacy of a villa holiday, by booking their winter sun with Jet2Villas.

Steve Heapy, CEO of Jet2.com and Jet2holidays said:

“Just weeks after announcing a fantastic selection of winter sun destinations on sale for Winter 22/23 from Bristol Airport, we are very pleased to be expanding our programme and adding even more sunshine hotspots. This expansion comes on the back of the great response we have seen from customers and independent travel agents looking to book their winter sunshine nice and early. Like we have experienced with the first destinations going on sale, we know these additional hotspots will be just as popular. Based on the response we have had to the programme, and with more holidaymakers wanting to book ahead, we are looking towards the future with enormous confidence when it comes to Winter 22/23.”

For further information and to book visit www.jet2.com or www.jet2holidays.com