Emirates

[nwoody2001]

no water cannon.... or do we think they will be waiting until Monday for the official announcement????

 

[andrew.clarkson]

Hi there ray and all , now that emirates have now got the third daily service up and running ,we'll now just have to see how it does and next emirates wants to do next, new destinations, Who knows, we'll have to wait and see how this new 3rd daily one does, before anything else..andyc

 

[Ray Finkle]

no water cannon.... or do we think they will be waiting until Monday for the official announcement????

No water arch today, I assume all the official stuff is happening on Monday.

Hi there ray and all , now that emirates have now got the third daily service up and running ,we'll now just have to see how it does and next emirates wants to do next, new destinations, Who knows, we'll have to wait and see how this new 3rd daily one does, before anything else..andyc

The next step is an aircraft upgrade on one of the flights.

Watch this space.

 

[andrew.clarkson]

Hi all, now that the 3rd daily service has now been launched, I think that we will have to wait until probably this time next year to see if the 3rd service has increased the demand even more or levelled off, if it has increased even further their passenger numbers, then emirates will have to decide what they are going to....andyc

 

[IanFarquharson]

If was a betting man I would say A380 from 01.02.16

 

[Ray Finkle]

I'm glad you've now said that as I was told to keep the date quiet

Have you heard there will be an announcement on Monday or later on in the year?

 

[jfy1999]

I'm glad you've now said that as I was told to keep the date quiet

Have you heard there will be an announcement on Monday or later on in the year?

Very exciting, but all about the waiting game...

 

[Ray Finkle]

Emirates' Third Daily Service Touches Down at Birmingham Airport

Emirates has launched a third daily service to Dubai from Birmingham Airport, becoming the first airline to offer a direct First Class service to the region.

On board the inaugural flight of this service were passengers originating from more than 15 different cities to Birmingham, including Manila, Kuala Lumpur and Bangkok, demonstrating Emirates’ global connectivity.

The new daily service between Dubai and Birmingham is operated by a Boeing 777-300ER aircraft in a three class configuration, offering eight Private Suites in First Class, 42 Business Class seats and 310 Economy Class seats per day, as well as 23 tonnes of cargo capacity per flight. It adds seven more inbound flights a week to Birmingham, increasing passenger and cargo capacity on the route by 42 percent.

Flight EK41 from Dubai arriving into Birmingham Airport at 0705hrs on Saturday 1st August.

Laurie Berryman, Vice President, UK, at Emirates, said: “Birmingham is an important international business hub, and the wider Midlands region is a leading tourist destination. Increasing our capacity in Birmingham will improve the city’s global connectivity and give customers across our network and in the Midlands greater flexibility in their travel plans.

“We are also delighted to be the first airline to offer First Class to the region, with the introduction of our acclaimed First Class Private Suites on board the new third daily service. It is a positive sign for the state of the region’s economy and we are confident that there will be strong demand for First Class services among Birmingham passengers.”

“The introduction of the third daily service to Birmingham is another significant investment in the UK market and we look forward to offering further choice and excellent value for money to travellers and businesses, including the cargo community.”

Paul Kehoe, Chief Executive of Birmingham Airport, said: “This additional service means that passengers have access to more than 1,200 seats daily from Birmingham to Dubai, plus even more choice on Emirates' network of global connections across the Far East, the Middle East and Australasia. We have seen the route grow from strength to strength over the last one and a half decades due to the enormous demand in the Midlands for long haul connectivity so I thank the Emirates team for their commitment to Birmingham and wish them a happy 15th anniversary for later this year.”

Emirates started flying to Birmingham in December 2000 when it launched the route with a daily non-stop service, operated by a 278-seat Airbus A330. The second daily service was launched in 2005 operated by the same aircraft.

Both aircraft were upgraded to Boeing 777s by 2007 and in 2010, the dedicated Emirates Lounge opened its doors at Birmingham Airport for the first time. In the 15 years since operations at Birmingham Airport began, Emirates has carried almost six million passengers to and from Birmingham – 600,000 in the 2014–15 financial year alone.

Emirates flight EK41, operated by a Boeing 777-300ER, will depart Dubai International Airport at 0235hrs and arrive in Birmingham at 0705hrs. The outbound flight, EK42, will depart Birmingham Airport at 0910hrs and arrive in Dubai at 1910hrs.

All three cabins are equipped with Emirates’ award-winning ice entertainment system with more than 2,000 channels of on-demand entertainment to choose from, including movies, television programmes, games, audio books and music from across the world.

https://www.birminghamairport.co.uk/med ... m-airport/

 

[thunderchild]

If Emirates do send the whale I wonder if they will modify the gate to allow boarding on the upper deck? Two jetways and rear stairs onto the lower deck currently seen on the 777s would be a nightmare for the x2 class version.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

“We are also delighted to be the first airline to offer First Class to the region, with the introduction of our acclaimed First Class Private Suites on board the new third daily service. It is a positive sign for the state of the region’s economy and we are confident that there will be strong demand for First Class services among Birmingham passengers.”

If that's what the airline believes why then just a five-month period for First Class?

 

[Ray Finkle]

As they will start the new service with a low density three class 777 it's been bought in as a bit of an experiment. Only having it available on one of the three daily flights is far from ideal as many connecting pax would only find it suitable in one direction. It may give them a snapshot though.

 

[User001]

I've been informed that BHX could get its A380 on 1st May 2016, surprisingly, on the evening flight.

Next batch of routes for A380 upgrades:

1st Dec Bangkok
1st Jan Gatwick
1st Feb Manchester
1st Mar Melbourne
1st April Barcelona
1st May Birmingham
1st July no deliveries
1st Aug not announced.

 

[Ray Finkle]

That's the third date I've heard now. First it was March, then January and now May :smile: I guess it doesn't really matter just as long as it happens.

I'd always assumed that the lunchtime EK39/40 would be the first to see an A380 but I suppose Emirates have all the data about the most popular connections from BHX and will put the extra capacity where they feel it's needed most.

If it is EK37/38 having a 21:20 departure will be a pain for photographs, although a 19:35 arrival will catch the evening light at certain times of the year.

 

[User001]

The January and March A380 slots are now taken and confirmed, so, may could be the good bet.

It seems to be a growing trend that the evening flight gets the A380 first. Happened at LGW and somewhere else IIRC.

I think that the European afternoon bank is putting a lot of pressure on DXB at the times they arrive, so, adding more passengers to this bank will only exasperate the situation, hence the bulking upon the evening bank.

It's also one of the reasons that EK are looking at adding a very late night departure from the UK, leaving at 0200 approx. they have not released which airport will get that flight, but, my bets would be on LGW.

 

[Hassaan]

Is the evening flight more efficient for connections, hence why they are using that for the A380? Or I suppose it's also just an excuse to keep Sheldon Country Park late.

Are the morning flights doing well? As far as I'm aware they're operating 3 class aircraft on those flights and I think they've struggled slightly with those in the past, so if they are filling those well across the flights they are used on (along with 2 class aircraft) then it should be good stuff for them. You'd expect them to perform reasonably well as they do have good connections.

 

[Ray Finkle]

First is an experiment at the moment, we'll know if it's performed well enough to be made permanent when the A380 announcement happens.

 

[Jon Dempsey]

If the rumours of the Airbus are true, this is another warning to Qatar / Etihad to stay away until they can fill a heavy. I do love the politics in the industry.

 

[jfy1999]

If the rumours of the Airbus are true, this is another warning to Qatar / Etihad to stay away until they can fill a heavy. I do love the politics in the industry.

A bit of a bittersweet thing for the spotters though, as variety is being sacrificed for the Airbus. But I feel there must surely be a market for a daily flight to either Doha or Abu Dhabi.

 

[nwoody2001]

If the rumours of the Airbus are true, this is another warning to Qatar / Etihad to stay away until they can fill a heavy. I do love the politics in the industry.

Surely that's open to interpretation. so far in August, there has been between 2,000 and 2,300 pax flying PER DAY between BHX and DXB, that's circa 800,000 pax annually, which in theory could then be pushed up to 1,000,000+ pax in the event that emirates increases capacity to 2x B777 and 1x A380 daily. Now, if I was the route development team at either Etihad or Qatar, looking for a) a market they currently don't serve and b) a market in which their main competitor has a monopoly, then surely they need to be looking at BHX.

I liken it to Supermarkets. If Tesco had a number of super markets and convenience stores in a single post code, do you think the likes of Asda and Sainsbury's would say 'nope, lets not go there, Tesco has that area covered!!' ... of course they wouldn't! their response would more likely be 'how can we get in their to get a piece of the pie and gain back market share!!!'... and I don't see why Etihad and Qatar wouldn't be thinking the same.

As their route networks grow, there will be less and less destination in Europe that aren't served by at least 1 of the ME3. If they are to ensure their their airlines stay on top and competitive, surely the next step is to identify which market show greatest strengths and which offer market share potential which can be clawed back from their competitors. in that regard, BHX I would say is an obvious candidate....

 

[nwoody2001]

If the rumours of the Airbus are true, this is another warning to Qatar / Etihad to stay away until they can fill a heavy. I do love the politics in the industry.

Surely that's open to interpretation. so far in August, there has been between 2,000 and 2,300 pax flying PER DAY between BHX and DXB, that's circa 800,000 pax annually, which in theory could then be pushed up to 1,000,000+ pax in the event that emirates increases capacity to 2x B777 and 1x A380 daily. Now, if I was the route development team at either Etihad or Qatar, looking for a) a market they currently don't serve and b) a market in which their main competitor has a monopoly, then surely they need to be looking at BHX.

I liken it to Supermarkets. If Tesco had a number of super markets and convenience stores in a single post code, do you think the likes of Asda and Sainsbury's would say 'nope, lets not go there, Tesco has that area covered!!' ... of course they wouldn't! their response would more likely be 'how can we get in their to get a piece of the pie and gain back market share!!!'... and I don't see why Etihad and Qatar wouldn't be thinking the same.

As their route networks grow, there will be less and less destination in Europe that aren't served by at least 1 of the ME3. If they are to ensure their their airlines stay on top and competitive, surely the next step is to identify which market show greatest strengths and which offer market share potential which can be clawed back from their competitors. in that regard, BHX I would say is an obvious candidate....