Ryanair

[jacinta]

by jacinta » Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:06 pm
Arrrgh! It was so cheap and I have promised kids we are going. Anyway at least I know. Thank you very much. I have been waiting patiently for it to arrive.I would have had a long wait.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

by TheLocalYokel » Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:10 pm
I'm assuming it's because the airline is worried that the unrest might spread and don't want to be left with a route that is difficult to sell.

It ran for several years and recently has operated all year round instead of just in winter.

It might come back if the political situation improves next year though I certainly have no inside information from the airline.

I hope you can make other plans to give the kids a great Christmas.

 

[alphagolf]

I see Bratislava is back on sale for Winter 11/12, flights start 30th Oct.

Timings not loaded into timetable, but looks like twice weekly on a Sunday and Wednesday!

That takes this winters routes back up to 18, knowing Ryanair I am sure this will change again before the Winter schedule starts!

alphagolf

 

[Aviador]

I see Bratislava is back on sale for Winter 11/12, flights start 30th Oct.

Timings not loaded into timetable, but looks like twice weekly on a Sunday and Wednesday!

That takes this winters routes back up to 18, knowing Ryanair I am sure this will change again before the Winter schedule starts!

alphagolf

Hi alphagolf

Now you see her now you don't is the typical game Ryanair play. They must miss out on sales making so many changes throughout the run-up to the season commencing.

I guess most people accept that airlines need to make the odd one or two alterations and you wouldn't expect a route that's not selling to make it to the sky, but Ryanair really do "eat the biscuit" with this one. You will see several routes swapped throughout the run-up to their flights commencing.

It's just another reason why many people don't like using Ryanair because if you've booked hotel accommodation, you don't want to be having to find an alternative flight if Ryanair decided to chop it just before the season commences.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

I see Bratislava is back on sale for Winter 11/12, flights start 30th Oct.

Timings not loaded into timetable, but looks like twice weekly on a Sunday and Wednesday!

That takes this winters routes back up to 18, knowing Ryanair I am sure this will change again before the Winter schedule starts!

Beziers is definitely back in for the winter at 2 x weekly (Mon and Fri), well, for the moment anyway - it appears in both the timetable with timings and in the booking engine. No doubt the pressure of the Wrington Twinning Association was brought into play. :crazy:

As alphagolf points out Bratislava is in the timetable but with no timings. However, a test booking shows it is not available - yet?

The same now applies to Poznan and Girona which are shown in the timetable as 2 and 3 x weekly respectively, with days but no timings. These too are not yet bookable either.

If all the flights shown do operate, including the ones currently shown as days with no timings, there will be 19 routes and 60 weekly rotations next winter, with Bergamo and Faro (both 2 x weekly) operated by non-based aircraft. That would be an increase of five per week over last winter, or put another way an increase of 9% which would be very promising if it happens.

Dublin remains at 3 daily throughout the winter. Aer Lingus Regional have apparently announced (according to a poster in the Dried Plum) that they will continue their BRS-DUB through the winter. Not sure if it remain 3 x daily though.

What a mess the Ryanair timetable is every year, winter and summer.

 

[maryryder]

Hello I'm new to this forum! I would like to know if anyone knows if Ryanair is cancelling it's flights Bristol to Venice Treviso as I can see nothing up from November?thanks.

 

[alphagolf]

Hi maryryder and welcome to the forum!

There are no flights after the end of October as thats when the Winter schedules start and at present Ryanair are not flying to Venice Treviso through the winter. I expect it will return again for the Summer 2012 schedules. Anything is possible with Ryanair though they change there timetable so many times before it starts, so it maybe just keep an eye on it to see if it is re-instated for this winter.

alphagolf

 

[TheLocalYokel]

I agree with alphagolf on this.

For example, Beziers was not in the winter timetable for 2011/2012 and was also not in the list of winter routes a Ryanair spokeswoman gave to the Bristol press a few weeks ago.

Within the past week or so it's been restored and the same looks as though it's about to happen with Bratislava.

Ryanair is a thoroughly frustrating airline when it comes to timetabling. Every year their timetables go though several different versions with routes added or removed, or timings or even days altered.

Invariably the final version does not appear until a few weeks before the relevant season begins which is late October/early November for winter and late March for summer.

Cynics say that Ryanair waits to see which routes are selling well before confirming them in the final timetable. It's no fun for people who book flights from early versions of timetables only to find their route withdrawn entirely or moved in time or even day.

 

[maryryder]

Hiya alphagolf and thanks for the reply. So no flights at least next winter I think I'd better go and see my Mum in Sept/Oct then before they stop. Pity as it's so difficult otherwise having to go to London and then down by coach. Thanks.
P.S. I've lived in Venice for 30yrs now and if we have no more direct flights to Bristol it takes us back in time quite a bit!

 

[TheLocalYokel]

If the Treviso flights aren't reinstated for the coming winter it will be a surprise if they don't appear again next summer.

You will know that easyJet operated to Marco Polo for several years summer and winter with very high load factors.

When the abolition of that route was announced there was quite a furore in the Bristol press with numerous regular travellers lamenting the fact. easyJet admitted the loads had been consistently high but said they still couldn't make money on it, or at least the sort of money they were looking for.

Just shows how tight the margins are for low-cost airines when airports won't play ball because it was the Venice end that was expensive for them and they were reluctant to switch to Treviso which might have been a cheaper option.

 

[lbaspotter]

Very intresting new story regarding a ryanair flight from Marrakesh-to-Bristol. I do sometimes wonder what i would have done if i was in this kind of situation.

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-14060119

Bristol-bound Ryanair flight passenger sits on 'violent' man

A passenger who helped to restrain a man who was "aggressive and violent" on a Marrakesh-to-Bristol flight has spoken of his experience

Aziz Eddahar said he restrained the disruptive passenger for an hour

Aziz Eddahar, 36, from Trowbridge, said he had to effectively sit on the man, who was swearing and pushing people, for more than an hour.

He said: "I saw him at the gate before boarding and thought he looked rough. How did he get through security?"

The Ryanair plane was diverted to Brest and French police arrested the man.

Mr Eddahar, who was visiting his mother in Morocco, said: "I always like to sit in the same seat - right at the back of the plane.

"The flight wasn't full - there were quite a few empty seats. I had seen this guy before taking off. He didn't look right, his eyes were right open. I didn't know he would be on my flight.

"I was just about to take a nap when I heard noises. He was in the middle part of the plane and swearing and pushing people.

"You assume the cabin crew will take care of it - the guy was really swearing - but he started pushing the cabin crew.

"I think the crew was Polish and he starts asking them if they speak English. They were trying to calm him down and the [crew] were trying to protect the doors. He was screaming.


"The woman passenger next to me said she was a police officer. She stood up and told the man she was a police officer and this made him ten times more aggressive.

"He spoke English. He had an accent, he may have been Australian."

Mr Eddahar said he restrained the man despite concerns that the man might bite him.

He said: "I used all my weight to restrain him. I am 18 stone 9 and I asked the police officer to advise me what to do.

Mr Eddahar said the pilots apologised to passengers for the diversion to Brest Airport, where the French authorities arrested the man.

A spokesman for Ryanair said: "Ryanair will support and cooperate with any prosecution brought against this disruptive passenger."

The flight had been due to arrive in Bristol at 2300 BST on Tuesday but after the diversion to France it landed at about 0155 BST on Wednesday.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

[textarea]Ryanair celebrates milestone links with Poland

Ryanair celebrated a significant landmark for links between Poland and the South West today (21 July) as the airline carried the 500,000th passenger on its Polish routes from Bristol Airport. Ryanair’s Polish destinations from Bristol include Gdansk, Poznan, Wroclaw and Rzeszow, with Katowice recommencing November 2011.

With over 10,000 Eastern European people living in the North Somerset area alone, these services enable Poles to visit friends and family members across the South West. Polish destinations are also popular with leisure travellers, with a wealth of history and a vibrant cultural scene to explore

Bristol Airport is preparing for a busy summer with over 900,000 passengers expected to pass through the Airport during the school holiday period. Passengers are being advised to arrive two hours in advance of their departure time in order to complete essential processes such as check-in, security and boarding.[/textarea]
http://www.bristolairport.co.uk/news-an ... oland.aspx

Ryanair began flying to Poland from Bristol in November 2007 when the base opened.

Most of the routes are year-round and in summer especially attract very high load factors year after year. This year for example the May and June monthly loads factors were respectively:

Gdansk 91% and 92%
Poznan 94% and 94%
Rzeszow 90% and 88%
Wroclaw 88% and 88%

Two Polish routes are no longer operated by Ryanair from Bristol - Szczecin was an early route and last summer Bydgoszcz commenced in May but was axed after two months. Load factors were respectively 61% and 71% for the two months it operated.

I'm told that Polish routes are poor in respect of onboard ancillary revenue.

Incidentally, BRS's first Polish route was Krakow flown by easyJet. It's been operating for six or seven years, year-round, and loads are always extremely high.

 

[big g]

The loads this month have also crazy with a lot of staff commenting they have never seen so high.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

The loads this month have also crazy with a lot of staff commenting they have never seen so high.

I can see from the CAA stats what you mean.

Poznan, Wroclaw, Rzeszow and Gdansk each had load factors of 98% for July. The Polish routes are invariably highly loaded in summer (as you will surely know better than me big g) but typical monthly load factors for summer are in the range 88%-96%.

Other Ryanair routes with load factors in the 90s in July were Girona (93%, carrying nearly 11,000 passengers in the month), Kaunus 93%, Malta 93%, Milan Bergamo 92%, Riga 91% and Venice Marco Polo (standing in for the temporarily closed Treviso) 91%.

Others worthy of mention are Gran Canaria 89%, Lanzarote 88% and Marrakesh at 86% was up 6% on July 2010.

Impressive figures for 189-seat aircraft.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Winter 2011-2012

The latest version of the Ryanair timetable, by no means the first and probably not yet the final one, shows 57 weekly rotations from Bristol, which is an increase of two on last winter.

This still pales into relative insignificance when compared with winter 2009-2010 when there were 90 weekly rotations.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Ryanair load factors for August 2011

More excellent laod factors with one exception for the month.

Bergerac 4312 passengers, load factor 92%
Beziers 6059 89%
Girona 12,119 91%
Gdansk 2989 99%
Gran Canaria 4524 92%
Kaunas 3167 93%
Knock 3667 69%
Lanzarote 4836 91%
Limoges 3036 89%
Malta 4680 95%
Marrakesh 3129 92%
Milan (Bergamo) 4577 93%
Poznan 2956 98%
Reus 3059 90%
Riga 3087 90%
Rzeszow 3300 97%
Seville 3112 91%
Valencia 4505 91%
Venice M P 3132 92%
Wroclaw 3289 97%

Knock has always been a bit of a dog when it comes to loads. It's being discontinued this winter after four years winter and summer operation. Whether it returns next summer must be considered doubtful. It's surprising it lasted as long as it did.

I couldn't establish the load factors on the following routes because other scheduled airlines compete with Ryanair on them.

Alicante, Dublin, Faro, Ibiza, Malaga, Palma and Tenerife.

 

[big g]

Another good month for FR.

from what i have seen, ALC has been strong with 175+ most days, Dub is hit and miss going through days hitting the 180 mark then doping off to 30-70 pax only to back up to 180ish, FAO has been a consistent 165, IBZ,AGP, PMI and TFS have been going daily with 180+ Pax on them.

All the flights bar Dub have also had upwards of 80-100+ bags on them, helping FR with a nice extra boost in profit

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Ryanair August 2011

Thanks for that big g.

The sun routes you mentioned sound very strong, especially as without exception they are up against easyJet and the charter airlines.

The Palma route, scheduled and charter combined, carried over 46,000 passengers in August which may well be a record monthly high for a single destination from Bristol.

Dublin carried 32,290 passengers in August according to the CAA stats which is an increase of 14% on August 2010.

It means that either Ryanair lost passengers compared with the previous August or Aer Lingus Regional had a pretty dismal monthly load factor, perhaps as low as 35-40%.

In August 2010, when Ryanair had the DUB route to itself, it carried 28,300 passengers which is an average load of 152, load factor 80.5%.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Ryanair - a different perspective

I've always been wary of flying with Ryanair because of the many tales of their poor customer relations when things go wrong and what often seems a cavalier attitude from senior management towards their customers. My wife simply won't fly with them for these reasons so that means neither have I.

But fair's fair. In the past month eight members of my 'extended family' have flown from/to Bristol with Ryanair respectively to/from Ibiza (three generations of a family), Valencia (part of a group of thirty-something women on a hen weekend) and Malta (a middle-aged couple). All the adults are experienced air passengers though none is interested in aviation.

I asked them how things went and they were all positive about their experiences and would fly with the airline again.

The couple who flew to Malta could have used their nearest airport at Exeter but the weekly Air Malta charter flight from there would have cost them more than twice the fare they paid with Ryanair which also offers more flexibility in its multi weekly rotations.

En route they spoke to a couple who had driven to BRS from Dorset but lost their way with the result that they arrived at the bag-drop just after the latest time to deposit their suitcases. To their surprise and delight the attendant allowed their bags to be dropped.

I suspect that Ryanair is usually fine most of the time, but their reputation goes before them. The incident with the bag drop shows their handling staff can be helpful and sympathetic.

Needless to say I've told my wife about all this. I encouraged her to speak at length to the male half of the 'Malta couple' - he's her brother - so perhaps her view on Ryanair might mellow a bit and they won't always be out of bounds.

 

[Seasider]

Do you think your wife would let you take a day trip to Dublin? Try that with her, if she thinks you are going on your own she may decide to go with you.
I'm fortunate (very fortunate) my wife lets me go off on my own (I think she's glad of a couple of days rest from me!)