IanFarquharson
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Flew with Flybe this week to/ from Hamburg .... both flights on time & nice crew.... I wish Flybe all the best for future
I have just got back from HAM
Super flight on the Dash 8 - 73 pax on board
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Flew with Flybe this week to/ from Hamburg .... both flights on time & nice crew.... I wish Flybe all the best for future
I have just got back from HAM
Super flight on the Dash 8 - 73 pax on board
Hope you had great timeI have just got back from HAM
Super flight on the Dash 8 - 73 pax on board

Yes currently Flybe and KLM each operate 5 flights per day to AMS and Flybe and Air France each operate 3 flights per day to CDG. So the 5 and 3 daily slot pairs essentially means half of the slots that Flybe/KLM/Air France currently have. I wonder if all the slots would come from Flybe/Virgin or split between Flybe/Virgin and Air France/KLM, so that we'd still see both carriers on each route.
Which other airline would be interested in serving BHX to CDG or AMS though?
Not sure if the ruling means that the Virgin/Flybe/KLM/Air France group can only operate a maximum of 3 daily flights to CDG and 5 daily flights to AMS, or if it just means that if a competing airline wants them, the group has to relinquish the slots?
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Mergers: Commission approves the acquisition of Flybe by Connect Airways, subject to conditions
The European Commission has approved, under the EU Merger Regulation, the acquisition of UK regional air carrier Flybe by Connect Airways, a consortium by Virgin Atlantic, Stobart Aviation and Cyrus. The decision is conditional on full compliance with commitments offered by Connect Airways.europa.eu
To address the competition concerns identified by the Commission with regard to the Birmingham - Amsterdam and Birmingham - Paris routes, Connect Airways offered a set of commitments. Connect Airways committed to the release of five daily slot pairs at Amsterdam Schiphol airport and three daily slot pairs at Paris Charles de Gaulle airport. Under the proposed commitments, these slots will be released to competing airlines that want to fly the Birmingham - Amsterdam and Birmingham - Paris routes.
Come on easyjet, you know it makes sense![]()
What you are saying doesn't really make sense to me.
Why would an airline, that specialises in TATL, who never had a base at BHX before be less likely to operate TATL flights after having a base at BHX?
Why would the arrival of LCC airlines that have no interest in providing TATL at all improve BHX's chances of getting TATL routes?
Having connections increases the viability of long haul routes. Having a base at an airport already makes it easier to try other routes from there. Having a FFer base makes other flyers more likely to fly with you. Having a good market share in any area helps you get corporate contracts with local businesses.
Not saying it's going to happen, certainly not straight away, but there aren't that many other airlines who are looking to expand in UK TATL so hopefully the airport will shake off the negitivity and take the opportunity to build a good relationship with Virgin when they come.
There is an equal chance that the £100m puchase of Flybe was nothing more than a purchase of slots at LHR. With a pair of slots going at LHR teaching a record price of £60m/$75m ...the £100m of Flybe for the slots that Flybe have seem like a steal ...even if you then slowly wind down the remaining 98% of the airline! Yes I believe there are contractual limits to the slots but their value will still be significant, valuable and a major investment!
I think you may have hit the nail on the head here!! I heard early on when Virgin was talking about taking over Flybe, a senior executive of Virgin indicated that is was to do with more slots for the 3rd runway at LHR, Virgin will get extra slots based on the % of slots they all ready own, so the bought Flybe slots could help them expand more long haul flights from LHR when the 3rd runway is built, then they could sell off the Flybe fleet/regional routes/regional slots etc.. or maybe move them onto Stobart to operate independently, thus gaining these new LHR slots at a fraction of the cost by buying Flybe so cheaply!!
Probably because they have 2 other partners that they would need to clear it with first.I do agree with @nwoody2001 though - Virgin have so far been very vague on what their plans are for Flybe. Presumably they were waiting for EC approval so as to avoid showing their hand too early. Hopefully now that the takeover has been approved we'll found out just what they're planning soon.
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