Ryanair have pulled most their east European routes from LBA so lets get wizz on board at LBA. I guess DSA is a little close though?
Wizz Air are firmly settled at Doncasater there would be no way of attracting them
I fact yesterday Doncaster was Wizz Air City with them accepting diversions from Luton
 
Wizz Air are firmly settled at Doncasater there would be no way of attracting them
I fact yesterday Doncaster was Wizz Air City with them accepting diversions from Luton

True Wizz.have been at DSA and LPL for many years and are well established at both , LPL took two Wizz Luton diverts in the early hours. These two airports cover the north of England for them.
 
I wouldn't necessarily discount Wizz at LBA if the new terminal is built. Remember they are the major airline at LTN, which is owned by our owners AMP Capital so there are deals to be done if they want to. I know for sure that LBA would very much like Wizz at LBA in the future in some capacity at least. If Ryanair continue to not operate some of the Eastern European routes that they did, then there is the demand to operate them from LBA without impacting on their DSA operation.
 
I wouldn't necessarily discount Wizz at LBA if the new terminal is built. Remember they are the major airline at LTN, which is owned by our owners AMP Capital so there are deals to be done if they want to. I know for sure that LBA would very much like Wizz at LBA in the future in some capacity at least. If Ryanair continue to not operate some of the Eastern European routes that they did, then there is the demand to operate them from LBA without impacting on their DSA operation.
I was thinking much the same - while the airport is rammed for part of the day some non based traffic stimulus would be most welcome from Continental carriers while the development is taking place. Carriers such as Wizz, EW, Vueling etc would be ideal and the benefit is it doesn't eat into the night flying quota although with the FR cuts there must be a few slots now up for grabs!
 
Why is the terminal the key factor WH...if its good enough for Jet2 why isn’t it good enough for WIZZ...when you look at DSA most of their departures are after 6pm which would be ideal or is it a simple case of nowhere to park them?
I have said that purely on the basis of what the CEO has told us - that being that LBA cannot attract airlines to LBA at present because the terminal is at capacity and doesn't offer new airlines 'the product' that they insist on. What exactly that product is I don't know but I presume they mean a combination of flexibility and customer experience. We were told that if we approached a certain major airline asking them to operate from LBA at present they would just laugh, but with the terminal, airlines would be queuing up. We all assume that such a queue would be relatively short but the picture being painted was that the terminal is key to new airlines coming to LBA - which sort of ties in given we haven't had a new airline start at LBA now for several years. Only Flybmi were prepared to give it a go and look what happened to them!
 
I have posted a reply/comment many months ago that I thought that LBA would be at a standstill until the terminal was expanded, etc or until the " new arrivals hall" was completed. Any new prospective airline would probably think they would like to operate from Leeds but not yet! The catchment area is big and relatively prosperous, an expanding financial centre, also law and insurance, an attractive tourist area, etc etc. It is the terminal which lets it down, not the weather, not the runway length, possibly to some degree the accessibility of the airport itself. Cancelling the link road was I believe a major blow and mistake however the Parkway Station is a huge step forward.
Conclusion: the new terminal is absolutely crucial to the success of the airport, the City of Leeds and West Yorkshire. Get all this in place and then we will see new destinations and airlines!
 
I think the game changer for all of this is actually the change in operating hours to allow for increased rotations. In terms of the existing terminal it didnt deter FR or Mon or BA when they started. And remember it didnt stop Easyjet operating to Geneva The terminal is the icing on the cake but the real attraction is increased flexibility with these increased operating hours and rotations.
It would also be fascinating to know how much impact the decrease in flights to Eastern European countries has impacted on pax numbers post Brexit, not just for LBA but also other UK airports with a local sizeable Eastern European population. i'm guessing it would outweigh business traffic at LBA.
 
I think the game changer for all of this is actually the change in operating hours to allow for increased rotations. In terms of the existing terminal it didnt deter FR or Mon or BA when they started. And remember it didnt stop Easyjet operating to Geneva The terminal is the icing on the cake but the real attraction is increased flexibility with these increased operating hours and rotations.
It would also be fascinating to know how much impact the decrease in flights to Eastern European countries has impacted on pax numbers post Brexit, not just for LBA but also other UK airports with a local sizeable Eastern European population. i'm guessing it would outweigh business traffic at LBA.
You make a good point about passenger numbers post brexit.
Its estimated up to last September 150K eastern european had returned home for good in the previous 12 months and the figures increasing.
In 2018 there were 3.6 million E.U. citizens known to be in the U.K., figures, those taking settled status are very low in comparison, for airlines its not going to be a growing market flying to Eastern European bases.
Factor in also that when I look at fellow passengers flying to eastern europe they tend to be younger then 40, an age group that find, justifying flying difficult, more problems.
 
Preparing for the max to begin service I guess this summer. Still puzzles me why they pulled two aircraft out of Leeds though and upped flights from other bases esp when apparently loads were good from Leeds? Guess it's because Leeds is smaller base,higher costs with pos weather issues? Maybe it's just a Ryanair thing!
 
Preparing for the max to begin service I guess this summer. Still puzzles me why they pulled two aircraft out of Leeds though and upped flights from other bases esp when apparently loads were good from Leeds? Guess it's because Leeds is smaller base,higher costs with pos weather issues? Maybe it's just a Ryanair thing!

You would guess wouldn't you. This is very confusing too - but can only be surmised. MAN doesn't require as much investment from the revenue teams to start getting bums on seats etc, therefore a higher return.

Operationally maybe easier to cut from a smaller base then a larger base. Though thats quite contradictory if you look at this from more crew in MAN to go around a still a relatively large amount of aircraft. LBA however has one aircraft therefore not that many aircraft to the amount of crew.

The other reason could quite be simple. Ryanair have kept it no secret that they don't pay for C or D checks on aircraft. If the MX plan was to have aircraft out of Ryanair fleet replaced by MAX that of course is now not happening. So the fleet is downsized isn't it - unless they pay for the expensive checks. Or if its pay for the expensive checks these aircraft could be out until mid summer. Who knows.
 
You would guess wouldn't you. This is very confusing too - but can only be surmised. MAN doesn't require as much investment from the revenue teams to start getting bums on seats etc, therefore a higher return.

Operationally maybe easier to cut from a smaller base then a larger base. Though thats quite contradictory if you look at this from more crew in MAN to go around a still a relatively large amount of aircraft. LBA however has one aircraft therefore not that many aircraft to the amount of crew.

The other reason could quite be simple. Ryanair have kept it no secret that they don't pay for C or D checks on aircraft. If the MX plan was to have aircraft out of Ryanair fleet replaced by MAX that of course is now not happening. So the fleet is downsized isn't it - unless they pay for the expensive checks. Or if its pay for the expensive checks these aircraft could be out until mid summer. Who knows.
That’s come over sarcastic. I meant it in a you’d guess, I’d guess etc.
 
What puzzles me is why cut routes from LBA that apparently had good loads, and to then base the aircraft at other bases opening up new routes that possibly might be risky? Also now the routes have been introduced again from Leeds would the customers return? They naturally might just go elsewhere?
 
Ryanair – Leeds/Bradford Winter 2020/2021 Schedule so far on sale.

Headlines

2x = Based aircraft
40x = Weekly rotations.
10 x Routes

(DUB) Dublin –13x weekly. (2x daily Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sun & 1x daily Sat)
(RIX) Riga = Recommences 2x weekly (Thu & Sun)
(GDN) Gdansk = 3x weekly (Mon, Fri Sun)
(KRK) Krakow = 4x weekly (Tue, Thu, Fri & Sun)
(WMI) Warsaw Modlin – 2x weekly (Wed & Sun)
(WRO) Wroclaw = 2x weekly (Mon & Fri)
(BTS) Bratislava = Recommences 2x weekly (Mon & Fri)
(ALC) Alicante = 6x weekly (Mon, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sat & Sun)
(AGP) Malaga =
3x weekly (Mon, Wed & Fri)
(TFS) Tenerife South = Recommences 3x weekly (Tue, Thu & Sat)

Route not on sale yet
Malta Luqa =
Was 2x weekly Winter 2019/2020

Mondays = +7
Aircraft 1

RYR2446 = LBA 06:20 – AGP 10:25 / RYR2447 = AGP 11:00 – LBA 13:10
--------------------------------------- Spare ---------------------------------------
RYR157 = LBA 19:25 – DUB 20:30 / RYR152 = DUB 20:55 – LBA 21:55
Aircraft 2
RYR153 = LBA 06:30 – DUB 07:35 / RYR152 = DUB 08:00 – LBA 09:05
RYR5041 = LBA 09:30 – BTS 12:55 / RYR5042 = BTS 13:20 – LBA 14:55
RYR9079 = LBA 15:55 – ALC 19:35 / RYR9078 = ALC 20:20 – LBA 22:10
Non Based
RYR1504 = GDN 10:20 – LBA 11:45 / RYR1503 = LBA 12:10 – GDN 15:25 (Operated by Buzz)
RYR4108 = WRO 18:30 – LBA 19:45 / RYR4107 = LBA 20:10 – WRO 23:15 (Operated by Buzz)

Tuesdays = +4
Aircraft 1

RYR153 = LBA 06:30 – DUB 07:35 / RYR152 = DUB 08:00 – LBA 09:05
RYR2492 = LBA 12:00 – TFS 16:40 / RYR2493 = TFS 17:15 - LBA 21:50
Aircraft 2
---------------------------------------
Spare ---------------------------------------
RYR157 = LBA 19:25 – DUB 20:30 / RYR152 = DUB 20:55 – LBA 21:55
Non Based
RYR2333 = KRK 11:10 – LBA 12:40 / RYR2332 = LBA 13:05 – GDN 16:35 (Operated by Buzz)

Wednesdays = +5
Aircraft 1

RYR153 = LBA 06:30 – DUB 07:35 / RYR152 = DUB 08:00 – LBA 09:05
RYR2203 = LBA 09:30 = WMI 12:55 / RYR2204 = WMI 13:30 – LBA 15:00
RYR157 = LBA 19:25 – DUB 20:30 / RYR152 = DUB 20:55 – LBA 21:55
Aircraft 2
---------------------------------------
Spare ---------------------------------------
RYR2446 = LBA 15:20 – AGP 19:25 / RYR2447 = AGP 20:00 – LBA 22:10
Non Based
RYR9078 = ALC 15:50 – LBA 17:40 / RYR9079 = LBA 18:05 – ALC 21:45

Thursdays = +6
Aircraft 1

RYR153 = LBA 06:30 – DUB 07:35 / RYR152 = DUB 08:00 – LBA 09:05
RYR2332 = LBA 09:30 – KRK 13:00 / RYR2333 = KRK 13:25 – LBA 14:55
RYR2482 = LBA 16:00 – RIX 20:40 / RYR2483 = RIX 21:05 – LBA 22:05
Aircraft 2
RYR2492 = LBA 06:40 – TFS 11:20 / RYR2493 = TFS 11:55 - LBA 16:30
RYR157 = LBA 19:25 – DUB 20:30 / RYR152 = DUB 20:55 – LBA 21:55
Non Based
RYR9078 = ALC 15:25 – LBA 17:15 / RYR9079 = LBA 17:40 – ALC 21:20

Fridays = +8
Aircraft 1

RYR5041 = LBA 06:05 – BTS 09:30 / RYR5042 = BTS 09:55 – LBA 11:30
RYR2446 = LBA 12:20 – AGP 16:25 / RYR2447 = AGP 17:00 – LBA 19:10
RYR157 = LBA 19:35 – DUB 20:40 / RYR152 = DUB 21:05 – LBA 22:05
Aircraft 2
RYR153 = LBA 06:30 – DUB 07:35 / RYR152 = DUB 08:00 – LBA 09:05
RYR2332 = LBA 09:30 – KRK 13:00 / RYR2333 = KRK 13:25 – LBA 14:55
RYR9079 = LBA 15:40 – ALC 19:20 / RYR9078 = ALC 20:05 – LBA 21:55
Non Based
RYR1504 = GDN 10:20 – LBA 11:45 / RYR1503 = LBA 12:10 – GDN 15:25 (Operated by Buzz)
RYR4108 = WRO 17:55 – LBA 19:10 / RYR4107 = LBA 19:35 – WRO 22:40 (Operated by Buzz)

Saturdays = +3
Aircraft 1

RYR153 = LBA 06:35 – DUB 07:40 / RYR152 = DUB 08:05 – LBA 09:05
RYR2492 = LBA 09:55 – TFS 14:35 / RYR2493 = TFS 15:10 - LBA 19:45
Aircraft 2
---------------------------------------
Spare ---------------------------------------
RYR9079 = LBA 16:20 – ALC 20:00 / RYR9078 = ALC 20:35 – LBA 22:25

Sundays = +7
Aircraft 1

RYR2482 = LBA 06:30 – RIX 11:10 / RYR2483 = RIX 11:35 – LBA 12:35
RYR2332 = LBA 13:35 – KRK 17:05 / RYR2333 = KRK 17:30 – LBA 19:00
RYR157 = LBA 19:25 – DUB 20:30 / RYR152 = DUB 20:55 – LBA 21:55
Aircraft 2
RYR1503 = LBA 06:50 – GDN 10:05 / RYR1504 = GDN 10:30 – LBA 11:55
RYR153 = LBA 12:20 – DUB 13:25 / RYR152 = DUB 13:50 – LBA 14:55
RYR2203 = LBA 16:45 = WMI 20:10 / RYR2204 = WMI 20:45 – LBA 22:15
Non Based
RYR9078 = ALC 15:40 – LBA 17:30 / RYR9079 = LBA 17:55 – ALC 21:35
 

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