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[Jerry]

On their website their moto does said friendly low fares so people may well have the expectation of that. It'll be curious to see how well they do in Wales in attracting passengers. I may be incorrect but i don't think their press release mentioned Wales? Just said the region? I may be wrong. Easyjet does have a loyal following in southern Wales (bordering on obsession with some) and is trying to expand it's holiday arm as well and of course their is TUI and Ryanair who attract a lot of welsh passengers to Bristol as well.
As for prices going up, personally i'm not so sure as airlines are going to want to attract people to fly and buy their holiday package so may well keep prices low or do sales quite often.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

I'll keep banging my head on the wall. Algorithms are different but if you keep on searching, especially if your cookies alert the IT system you were there, your prices may rise. This happens on every airline sight and tour operator sight. Clear your cookies, let the traffic die off and go have a look later on. Maybe check at 3am in the morning. When traffic on website is dead and searches are near to 0.

Let's also remember the airlines are running two very different businesses. An easyJet aircraft maybe doing 8 sectors a day, 4 of which maybe for example BFS/GLA/EDI flights whereby the last minute seats sold are at eye watering prices. As they know the business traveller will pay. This allows, in effect, to subsidise the other flights if you will.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

I'll keep banging my head on the wall. Algorithms are different but if you keep on searching, especially if your cookies alert the IT system you were there, your prices may rise. This happens on every airline sight and tour operator sight. Clear your cookies, let the traffic die off and go have a look later on. Maybe check at 3am in the morning. When traffic on website is dead and searches are near to 0.

Let's also remember the airlines are running two very different businesses. An easyJet aircraft maybe doing 8 sectors a day, 4 of which maybe for example BFS/GLA/EDI flights whereby the last minute seats sold are at eye watering prices. As they know the business traveller will pay. This allows, in effect, to subsidise the other flights if you will.

I understand what you are saying and it will be interesting to see how prices compare into the New Year when things have begun to settle down both in terms of Jet2 being a new entrant to the South West and the possibility of Covid effects next year being a bit clearer (we hope).

The point you make about easyJet's more intensive aircraft use is also a valid consideration. Incidentally, I always understood that the term 'low cost' applied to the airline's business model, albeit that enabled such airlines (often called 'budget airlines' by the news media) to usually offer lower fares than 'legacy' airlines: not always though because those algorithms come into play. I've flown BRS-GLA or BRS-EDI with easyJet and paid around £25 for the sector having booked a couple of months in advance. I've sometimes looked at the fares the day before I travel and the few seats left by then are invariably going for well over £100. easyJet's aircraft are used more heavily than TUI and, from what you say and from what I've read in the past, more heavily than Jet2. easyJet is far closer to Ryanair re aircraft utilisation.

The West Country edition of the Metro newspaper (free on public transport etc) used to regularly advertise all Jet2 destinations from BHX. I haven't seen a Metro since March as I haven't used public transport since then so don't even know if the Metro is still published. If it is I presume the Jet2 destinations advertised will be from BRS in the West Country edition. Jet2 will know far better than me that they have to get their name out into an area they have not previously operated in.

 

[LBA787]

Having spent time in BRS Im sure there will be room for the Jet2 based fleet.

Take into account the planned night stoppers for 2020;

easyjet x 18
Tui x 7
Ryanair x 4
KLM x 1

Total = 30

BRS has around 34 usable overnight stands with one more to be added where the old terminal once stood.

Loads of room!

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Having spent time in BRS Im sure there will be room for the Jet2 based fleet.

Take into account the planned night stoppers for 2020;

easyjet x 18
Tui x 7
Ryanair x 4
KLM x 1

Total = 30

BRS has around 34 usable overnight stands with one more to be added where the old terminal once stood.

Loads of room!

Given that all airports are not likely to see anything like a full recovery in 2021 there probably won't be the need for all the aircraft in the above fleets all the time next summer. If the virus is really taken hold of during next year (hopefully these vaccines will play their part) then 2022 could be a defining year for BRS.

It ought to know by then if it can increase its current 10 mppa passenger cap with the infrastructure expansion that goes hand in hand with that, or whether it will have to cut its cloth so it can keep within its existing passenger cap indefinitely (until aircraft are designed that cause no environmental damage and the airport can operate in a way that does not cause misery to local residents - to paraphrase the leader of North Somerset unitary authority whose planning committee rejected the airport's planning application early this year).

 

[Jerry]

Jet2 are adding an extra aircraft for 2022 and adding Dubrovnik, Alicante and Bodrum so far.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1333787474343051264

https://twitter.com/x/status/1333786880928669697

https://twitter.com/x/status/1333786070597521409

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

He fails to add that PFO will be new for Summer 22. Amongst all the increases too that they have planned.

 

[Jerry]

He fails to add that PFO will be new for Summer 22. Amongst all the increases too that they have planned.

Seems he reported that in early November.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1327207764205195266

 

[superking]

BRS were te airport stand wise knocking on 30ish stands,and they have not long added some more stands i think im right in saying this.

 

[Marko1]

Good increases on other routes too

 

[TheLocalYokel]

BRS were te airport stand wise knocking on 30ish stands,and they have not long added some more stands i think im right in saying this.

I think they will be all right. Severn did a good post on this elsewhere a week or two ago an d has more detailed knowledge.

I would think it unlikely that easyJet will base 18 aircraft next summer as they intended to do in summer 2020. If they did and the other airlines followed suit with their original summer 2020 plans (plus Jet2) next summer would be:

easyJet 18
Ryanair 4 ( in recent summers Ryanair has operated the equivalent of a 7-aircraft base but used aircraft from the 'other end' on many of their flights).
Jet2 3
TUI 6/7 including one 787 (the original narrow bodies complement was later reduced by one following the initial summer 2020 programme
KLM overnighter
Total 32/33

IF BRS wins its planning appeal it must have a contingency for being able to accommodate enough aircraft to handle 12 mppa. Pre-Covid it projected this total being reached by the mid 2020s. Now it's obviously likely to be a few years later than that.

IF it loses that's another ball game and it would remain to be seen how the airport owners deal with that.

IF and when it is approaching 12 mppa it would have to go back to the local authority for further expansion but that's another story.............

 

[superking]

Jet2 have released 3 more destinations for summer 2022.
Bodrum starts 5th may 1 weekly
Alicanti starts 29th april 3 weekly
Dubrovnik starts 30 april 1 weekly

 

[Marko1]

The extra frequencies that were in there for 2022 seem to have disappeared

 

[Marko1]

Further to the above all the extras are on sale on the jet2 holidays website

 

[TheLocalYokel]

There are reports on other F4A airport forums that Jet2 has begun to cancel some of its previously advertised routes for summer 2021 from those airports. It must be something of a conundrum for the management to decide whether to do the same at BRS given that Jet2 is a new airline for the region. They won't want to begin life with negative issues such as cancelled routes when in the process of setting up a brand new customer base.

Nevertheless, if the aviation market next summer doesn't turn out to be as as buoyant as might be hoped, cancelled flights will be inevitable and not just with Jet2. Jet2 would have been aware of this possibility when announcing its BRS base in the middle of a pandemic, with a reasonable assumption by Jet2-watchers that it was taken into account when the decision was made.

 

[Jerry]

It would seem at this stage there's no Xmas market routes for 2021 at the moment.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1341749104641253376

 

[TheLocalYokel]

It would seem at this stage there's no Xmas market routes for 2021 at the moment.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1341749104641253376

Cologne might have been an option given that Ryanair has now axed the route. Berlin, Copenhagen and Vienna are all served by easyJet year-round, with Ryanair also operating to the latter.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Has anyone seen any advertising for Jet2 at BRS? I haven't been into the centre of Bristol since the base was announced so don't know if there is anything on advertising hoardings. When I was using local buses regularly pre-pandemic I would often thumb through the Metro newspaper (West Country edition) and frequently there would be an advertising page detailing the routes flown from BHX which was then the West Country's nearest Jet2 airport.

I don't know if the local edition of the Metro is now doing the same for the BRS Jet2 flights - assuming the Metro is still being published given the huge drop in bus passenger numbers around the country.

The reason I ask is that my wife saw a Jet2 advert on ITV this evening which included the information that the airline would be flying from Bristol next summer. She can't remember seeing such an advert previously although she is not really interested in aviation, and I don't watch much tv.

 

[superking]

Has anyone seen any advertising for Jet2 at BRS? I haven't been into the centre of Bristol since the base was announced so don't know if there is anything on advertising hoardings. When I was using local buses regularly pre-pandemic I would often thumb through the Metro newspaper (West Country edition) and frequently there would be an advertising page detailing the routes flown from BHX which was then the West Country's nearest Jet2 airport.

I don't know if the local edition of the Metro is now doing the same for the BRS Jet2 flights - assuming the Metro is still being published given the huge drop in bus passenger numbers around the country.

The reason I ask is that my wife saw a Jet2 advert on ITV this evening which included the information that the airline would be flying from Bristol next summer. She can't remember seeing such an advert previously although she is not really interested in aviation, and I don't watch much tv.

Jet 2 adverts are and have been on the tv. The adverts quote BRS as the gateway.I cant say any thing about news papers as i dont have one.

 

[Jerry]

Jet 2 adverts are and have been on the tv. The adverts quote BRS as the gateway.I cant say any thing about news papers as i dont have one.

Interestingly the adverts I've seen on TV in Wales didn't mention Bristol.