Weather & Technical Diversions, Delays & Cancellations

[northsouth]

All landed successfully cat 3a on 32 wind is south eastly 5 knots RVR fluctuating between 250 &750m hope this improves - had a couple biz jets of cat1 on 14 erlier

 

[752]

Anyone know why GDFT is circling but others making approach?

Look like Eastern did a missed approach also

 

[northsouth]

Looking from FR24 the Easten did not descend lower the 3500 feet approx. flew straight over head and headed north east i guess the channex 733 are not able to carry out cat 3a

 

[White Heather]

Anyone know why GDFT is circling but others making approach?

Look like Eastern did a missed approach also

GDFT diverted to MAN so once again all the Jet2s get in except two 733s that don't. And of course we now have the Aer Lingus overhead as we did this morning unable to make an approach with the RVR 325m.

Anyone know where the Eastern E170 went if it did a missed approach? It's not showing up on FR24 as being airborne and the arrivals shows it as delayed to around now, which clearly needs updating. As it's Leeds United's team bus I would imagine it would go to Teesside and the Leeds team would head up there as they done a couple of times in the winter unless it comes back later, though with that Easterly wind it's not looking like clearing any time soon.

Looking from FR24 the Easten did not descend lower the 3500 feet approx. flew straight over head and headed north east i guess the channex 733 are not able to carry out cat 3a

The 733s regularly land on auto land Cat 3. Clearly there's some reason why these didn't..

 

[Finger66]

This front that is due to push through from the SW needs to hurry up and get here. Much clearer ahead for the next several days

 

[White Heather]

Just checked and Leeds United's team bus E170 LR apparently can't do Cat3 so is now sat on the deck at Teesside awaiting the team . Not the best choice of charter if the aircraft needs to divert (at either end) due to low Vis. Mind you, driving by coach to Bristol is an even worse option!

 

[northsouth]

Just noticed the sun express now holding high at 1300ft to the west I guess he keeping his options open if things improve hopefully

 

[LBAYORKIE]

Just noticed the sun express now holding high at 1300ft to the west I guess he keeping his options open if things improve hopefully

His Ops wont want to divert as it means picking up the outbound pax on a special flight tomorrow (as happened last week)

 

[Aviador]

Anyone have access to the RT? What is the current RVR?

 

[northsouth]

sun express looks like it diverting now heading south west

 

[White Heather]

Anyone have access to the RT? What is the current RVR?

According to FR24, 250m.

The Jet2 737 800 from TFS has just landed. Right behind it, so did the Wizz A321, just about the same time our Sun Express was touching down - at MAN!

Our Aer Lingus from DUB stuck it out too and landed, albeit an hour late, whilst as happened this morning, the Belfast didn't wait long and headed off to LPL. KLMs E190 also landed.

FR24 shows both diverted 733s due to position back shortly but perhaps they'll wait given visibility isn't much better than when they diverted.

 

[GolfFox]

According to FR24, 250m.

The Jet2 737 800 from TFS has just landed. Right behind it, so did the Wizz A321, just about the same time our Sun Express was touching down - at MAN!

Our Aer Lingus from DUB stuck it out too and landed, albeit an hour late, whilst as happened this morning, the Belfast didn't wait long and headed off to LPL. KLMs E190 also landed.

FR24 shows both diverted 733s due to position back shortly but perhaps they'll wait given visibility isn't much better than when they diverted.

The RVR seems to have been above CAT3a limits - did the 733s have an issue with on board equipment or crew qualification - although if they are planned to return that's a puzzle? Similarly the SXS 738. Is it just me or do the Dublin crews have more success landing than Belfast?? This morning the conditions we not dissimilar when BHD diverted and Dublin landed very shortly thereafter. I've noticed this before wonder if again it's down to crew qualification?

 

[LBA4EVER]

Apparently a short narrow strip of rain is to pass through later this eve which should clear the air somewhat and improve visibility, i hope!

 

[Finger66]

Yes and I believe we have a good forecast for potentially the next two weeks

 

[White Heather]

The RVR seems to have been above CAT3a limits - did the 733s have an issue with on board equipment or crew qualification - although if they are planned to return that's a puzzle? Similarly the SXS 738. Is it just me or do the Dublin crews have more success landing than Belfast?? This morning the conditions we not dissimilar when BHD diverted and Dublin landed very shortly thereafter. I've noticed this before wonder if again it's down to crew qualification?

Potentially, the Belfast based aircraft which are UK registered have different RVR limits for making an approach than the Dublin based aircraft which are in the Irish register?
I've noticed before that the Buzz aircraft, registered in Poland, seem to divert more readily than the Irish registered aircraft of Ryanair. Perhaps too today's Sun Express also has higher limits given it landed at MAN at the same time as a Jet2 (same aircraft type) and a larger Wizz A321 were auto landing at LBA, without making an approach.
The two Jet2 733s diverting though when their 738s were landing is more of a mystery, as I'm certain these aircraft have landed Cat3a many times before

 

[gulftraveller]

I doubt that the Belfast/Dublin aircraft have different mimima. It is most likely that it is a question of company policy or whether the crew are Cat III certified. Aircraft can also be despatched with Cat III inoperative.

 

[LBAYORKIE]

Potentially, the Belfast based aircraft which are UK registered have different RVR limits for making an approach than the Dublin based aircraft which are in the Irish register?
I've noticed before that the Buzz aircraft, registered in Poland, seem to divert more readily than the Irish registered aircraft of Ryanair. Perhaps too today's Sun Express also has higher limits given it landed at MAN at the same time as a Jet2 (same aircraft type) and a larger Wizz A321 were auto landing at LBA, without making an approach.
The two Jet2 733s diverting though when their 738s were landing is more of a mystery, as I'm certain these aircraft have landed Cat3a many times before

Tonights EI flights arrived at LBA at approx the same time. The BHD landed at 20:34 and the DUB is still holding. A reversal of what we saw earlier today.

 

[Aviador]

Just landed after several holding patterns. Fair play for their perserverance.

 

[YorkshireLad]

I’ve driven pretty much the length of the country today. Visibility was at best sub-optimal until past London, with it being absolutely terrible in the East Midlands area (not referencing EMA, it was Newark/Grantham area). My friend flew out on the 17:20 KLM today and by the videos sent to me visibility looked extremely poor

 

[quik123]

I'm confused about the talk of Cat3A. Are you referring to to the ILS or the aircraft? EGNM (LBA) Rwy 32 is Cat3B, which is guidance down to the ground and along to a full stop in zero vis.