Route Development & Rumours

[gulftraveller]

I hope so, though VS could not make it a financially sustainable destination. Pakistan tends to be a low yield destination.

 

[Scania1800]

I hope so, though VS could not make it a financially sustainable destination. Pakistan tends to be a low yield destination.

Pakistan is a very popular destination, but the popularity occurs in summer season and not any other season. Hence why emirates, Qatar and Turkish seem to have got the upper hand, You also need to remember BA who are still on the LGW-ISB route currently

 

[Ashley]

Home - HB international airlines Pvt LTD

HB international airlines Pvt LTD

hbinternationalairline.com

Not too convincing looking at their website.

 

[thunderchild]

I hope so, though VS could not make it a financially sustainable destination. Pakistan tends to be a low yield destination.

I don’t think VS ever planned on staying in the Pakistan market long term, their aircraft are too premium heavy. They just had the aircraft spare while they waited for the US to open up again. Norse might well be a better fit but I’ll believe it when I see it.

 

[jfy1999]

Home - HB international airlines Pvt LTD

HB international airlines Pvt LTD

hbinternationalairline.com

Not too convincing looking at their website.

Agreed, I hope I’m wrong, but we’ve had so many failed start-ups trying flights to the subcontinent and this looks very much like another one of those. i was expecting PIA to be the operator leasing the planes. But maybe PIA haven’t sorted out their own financial problems.

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

Wonder if Norse would consider opening a base at bhx?

 

[rollo]

Home - HB international airlines Pvt LTD

HB international airlines Pvt LTD

hbinternationalairline.com

Not too convincing looking at their website.

I also agree and never mind the website I've had a look at HB International on the Company House website @gov.com

They were formed in 2017 by an off the shelf process and have never traded and are registered to an office in Manchester as a dormant company with £100 of assets and one director-a paper airline or worse!
Whoever Norse are talking to an arrangement for wet leasing six 789's with a potential contract for up to 350hr per month per aircraft it surely ain't HB International

Norse have stated the negotiations are with a reputable international airline with a potential contract worth up to $462 million.Note the word negotiations therefore nothing signed and sealed so the supposed time frame is tight to say the least.

Something is obviously up with imminent UK/Pakistan services hopefully including BHX but who and what is the question

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

I’ll be honest I do see another international carrier at bhx next summer alongside the ones who are operating Islamabad.

My guess is
Oman air
Gulf air
Etihad airways

 

[Matt995]

I’ll be honest I do see another international carrier at bhx next summer alongside the ones who are operating Islamabad.

My guess is
Oman air
Gulf air
Etihad airways

I like you ambition, but very little chance of any of these airlines starting a new service next summer from Birmingham, Eithad announced all their new routes the other week, so won't happen, and can't see the other 2 being interested.

And im still not convinced we will have a Islamabad service, PIA possibly twice a week at best, should they be able to put their 777s back together again, and manage to find some rupee's to spend on some new engines for them!!

 

[Ashley]

Etihad To Announce 30 New Network Points Before March | Aviation Week Network

Etihad Airways is planning to announce significant network expansion over the coming months as it prepares to take delivery of its first Airbus A321LR.

aviationweek.com

Etihad haven't finished launching new routes. More is expected early next year.

 

[IanFarquharson]

There should be a new long haul carrier at BHX in W25/26 but it wont be Etihad, Gulf Air or Oman !

 

[Karl C]

Aha.....then it will be Cathay Pacific

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

What I don’t get about PIA is the fact they are allowed to resume flights to Europe not the Uk.
Now Norse are leasing aircraft to another airline in Pakistan to start flights in Jan/Feb 2025.
I’m surprised that nothing is on sale

 

[Nethercote2019]

What I don’t get about PIA is the fact they are allowed to resume flights to Europe not the Uk.
Now Norse are leasing aircraft to another airline in Pakistan to start flights in Jan/Feb 2025.
I’m surprised that nothing is on sale

I think bureaucracy in that part of the world may not help the situation

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1864750756722520524

Anything bhx related:
Source.Sean M

 

[Matt995]

What I don’t get about PIA is the fact they are allowed to resume flights to Europe not the Uk.
Now Norse are leasing aircraft to another airline in Pakistan to start flights in Jan/Feb 2025.
I’m surprised that nothing is on sale

Brexit for you Ant, as we are no longer part of "Europe" , we are not controlled by the European Union Aviation Safety Agency’s (EASA), so the un-banning of Pakistan carriers flying to the UK is down to the UK Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) only.

I very much doubt Norse will lease any aircraft to an airline that does not exist, ie HB International, who appear to be a "paper" airline, something we don't need at BHX wilth all the other "paper" airline failures we have had at BHX over the last 20 years!!

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

What can we expect this week or this month in terms of routes and rumours?

 

[Matt995]

What can we expect this week or this month in terms of routes and rumours?

who knows? You don't get much happening during the run up to Christmas, I think most of the summer 2025 changes should have been announced by now!

 

[IanFarquharson]

This week will potentially be the last week in 2024 for route announcements before Xmas and nothing happens normally in January on new routes.

Sean is hinting at some announcements this week.

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

This week will potentially be the last week in 2024 for route announcements before Xmas and nothing happens normally in January on new routes.

Sean is hinting at some announcements this week.

More or less Ryanair ,EasyJet and potentially PIA?