TUI Airways

[lbaspotter]

Interesting. We need someone who is able, to tell us if this Saturday's outbound, and/or the relevant inbound, actually operate full. Whilst this won't necessarily be a true reflection on the situation at the time of booking, it will probably be the best pointer we can get

TUI Out-bound flight-only figures for this weekend for those passengers that have opted to pay for pre-booked seats. The figures quoted are not be full booked load, they won’t show as you’ll always find some people don’t want to pay the extra and will happily await until they are allocated a seat at check-in..

Leeds - Palma
Saturday - 28 seats not allocated
Sunday - 58 seats not allocated

Teeside - Palma
Saturday - No availability

Humberside - Palma
Saturday- 25 seats not allocated

 

[White Heather]

Just seen a TUi holidays ad on TV in which they're list their departure airports for TUi and Partner Airlines. The list is really fast but pressing pause showed that LBA isn't included in the list, which I guess just about sums them up.

 

[Aviador]

Just seen a TUi holidays ad on TV in which they're list their departure airports for TUi and Partner Airlines. The list is really fast but pressing pause showed that LBA isn't included in the list, which I guess just about sums them up.

On YouTube searches for Leeds Bradford Airport I've been getting TUI holiday adverts. Now we know we don't see a great deal of TUI at LBA but they have advertised locally and they also have a contract witg Ryanair for many of their departures.

 

[White Heather]

On YouTube searches for Leeds Bradford Airport I've been getting TUI holiday adverts. Now we know we don't see a great deal of TUI at LBA but they have advertised locally and they also have a contract witg Ryanair for many of the departures.

I know there are ads for TUi at LBA and elsewhere.. But, on this particular TV ad, which listed the airports they fly from, LBA wasn't on the list despite TUi operating here and them also using flights by both Ryanair and Sun Express. Just another sign of their general lack of commitment to LBA.

 

[Jerry]

which listed the airports they fly from

Were they airports they flew from or were based at?

 

[White Heather]

Were they airports they flew from or were based at?

No idea, but the ad referred to flying ftom your local airport with TUi or our Partner Airlines. Partner Airlines wouldn't refer to a base.

 

[SierraHotel]

On the subject of exposure (or lack of), has anyone come across any EZY LBA promotion. Apart from the initial route launch news, I have seen or heard virtually nothing!!

 

[752]

The airport could easily just do something so simple as taking a picture of TUi aircraft or easyJet or both on the apron and throw a free promo post on social media reminding people of the routes / frequencies etc. it really isn’t hard. Instead the social media team like to play guess the length of the parking space

 

[AirBingley]

I nearly spilled my coffee…. Just heard a TUI advert specifically promoting LBA on Gold Radio!

 

[LsS27]

Any one any info about TUI's flight to PMA today. Looks as though its going to have about a 7hr delay

 

[752]

Looks like original aircraft positioned to MAN last night, maybe tech? not sure what's happened to the departing pax.

 

[Len Fish]

The passengers may have been on the aircraft that went from LBA to MAN. The aircraft concerned G-TAWB arrived in MAN from LBA at 22.52 and then departed from MAN for PMI at 00.32.

 

[northsouth]

Strange I just notice a freebird A320 flight from MME to DLM on a Monday am this summer flying for TUI as ours got canned Erlier this year after 2 years is does seem to me TUI seem reluctant to compete at LBA with jet 2 then spread things around if LBA wants 5 million plus pax we need to look a small leakages like this

 

[752]

TUI can easily compete with Jet2, but they choose not to for some reason. They have a strong hotel arm and cruising arm, however they choose to retreat. Jet2’s extortionate pricing, if TUI came in with a choice and competitive pricing to gain market share, They would be onto a winner.

Introducing exclusive routes like Enfidha, Sharm El Sheikh, Hurghadha, they would no doubt prove popular.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

The trouble with TUI is they don’t have fleet … and are spread too thin. The 737Max 10’s eventually when they get approved will come but I doubt that’ll allow for any fleet growth with the airline division - look at the amount of 3rd party carriers they use during the summer.

Their biggest mistake was not ordering 20 to 30 Airbus A321NEO’s to allow them to replace the 757 and allow them to grow.

TUI Uk itself need to be careful - it needs to go into growth mode again via seats / new routes. If it doesn’t it’ll become isolated, lonely and very niche. It’ll retreat to where it knows and end up like Monarch did. Limited bases, few LARGE bases, Limited growth (only TUI will be profitable which wasn’t the case for monarch) limited reach and very niche.

Hopefully with extra stands we’ll get them based year around. Hopefully with 737MAX10 they’ll grow the UK division.

A world where TUI airlines retreats to using 3rd party is a scary prospect.

 

[Jerry]

The difference with TUI is though that their holiday arm will use other airlines like Ryanair hence negating the need for aggressive expansion by TUI Airways.

 

[Statto]

Exactly - they are in the business of selling holidays which is where all the margin is. Jet2 pivoted towards holidays a long time ago and EasyJet are pushing into that space very aggressively. If using partner airlines to get people on holiday increases their reach without committing to running small sub-optimal bases, then that has some merit

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

And that in itself becomes an issue when those airlines expand their own offering of “holidays” and then end the contract with TUI because they can make more money selling their own holidays.

It happened at LBA in 2017 when Jet2 used to carry TUI/Thomas cook passengers.

 

[Jerry]

And that in itself becomes an issue when those airlines expand their own offering of “holidays” and then end the contract with TUI because they can make more money selling their own holidays.

It happened at LBA in 2017 when Jet2 used to carry TUI/Thomas cook passengers.

Well their deal with Ryanair helps with that. Gives them access to more seats with an airline that doesn't have a holiday arm and gives them flexibility in the holidays they can sell. If you look at Jet2 Holidays it can only sell packages to places where Jet2 flies to. I can book a city break to Amsterdam or Riga with TUI from LeedsBradford but I can't with Jet2 because they won't use Ryanair or KLM.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

Well their deal with Ryanair helps with that. Gives them access to more seats with an airline that doesn't have a holiday arm and gives them flexibility in the holidays they can sell. If you look at Jet2 Holidays it can only sell packages to places where Jet2 flies to. I can book a city break to Amsterdam or Riga with TUI from LeedsBradford but I can't with Jet2 because they won't use Ryanair or KLM.

I think you're missing my point. The minute Ryanair suddenly see, through various different agencies, that it can sell packages to the masses (they already do but not that awake) and the profit/ revenue from that TUI will be dropped.

And how good are those city breaks with TUI/ Ryanair? It goes wrong on Ryanair it'll hardly do any good for TUI's rep.