I agree Jerry, I was just answering Aviador's question regarding previous long haul from CWL, although I still think Qatar could be successful from CWL if and when they return.
 
I agree Jerry, I was just answering Aviador's question regarding previous long haul from CWL, although I still think Qatar could be successful from CWL if and when they return
They were growing when the pandemic hit but i'm starting to have my doubts they'll return at least next year as i'd have thought the route would be onsale by now. Would be a big boost if they did though.
 
CWL in it's own right currently has nothing much to offer airlines except runway and terminal capacity as the incentive to attract some custom from BRS. As others have mentioned, the 'opportunity' for CWL is that BRS is close to operational capacity and that BRS's chances of further expansion would seem limited given the strength of opposition. This, along with growing passenger dissatisfaction at the terminal crowds and delays at BRS, should result in an opportunity for CWL, even if its seen as just a BRS overflow option. Whether this situation occurs in the next couple of years remains to be seen, but the Ryanair's and even the EasyJet's of this world will be aware of this eventuality and must be considering CWL as an alternative / overflow option.
 
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Definetly the same Marc Watkins
Well he hasn't changed his LinkedIn profile and CWL still has him as aviation development manager.

Well he hasn't changed his LinkedIn profile and CWL still has him as aviation development manager.
Wish he has changed it because apparently he left a month ago! Lee Smith the head of business development is taking up or has taken up the role.
 
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Well he hasn't changed his LinkedIn profile and CWL still has him as aviation development manager.


Wish he has changed it because apparently he left a month ago! Lee Smith the head of business development is taking up or has taken up the role.
A little frustrating that they are not looking at replacing him, plus getting someone who’s already got a role at the airport to do this as a side job. That and their lack of attendance at world routes makes you wonder how hard they are trying.
 
A little frustrating that they are not looking at replacing him, plus getting someone who’s already got a role at the airport to do this as a side job. That and their lack of attendance at world routes makes you wonder how hard they are trying.
Well I expect that they will replace him or look to replace Lee Smith as business development manager.
As for World Routes we obviously don't know the reason but I personally wouldn't be surprised if cost was one as it can't be cheap to attend and stand availability may be another as there's probably limited space available.
 
With so many question unanswered and we're all just second guessing the whys etc. I wonder if it would be worth someone writing an Freedom of Information request asking those very questions. Just a thought.
 
With so many question unanswered and we're all just second guessing the whys etc. I wonder if it would be worth someone writing an Freedom of Information request asking those very questions. Just a thought.
I think it is worth questioning why there isn't a Welsh government presence which can encompass Cardiff Airport, Visit Wales and MRO in Wales. The Scottish government is listed as an attendee.
 
I think we’re all missing something here with the way in which the WG are dealing with the climate/carbon situation in Wales (and the focus on this particularly within Transport). The National Transport Strategy effectively prohibits many forms of new road construction which would increase traffic flow/carbon production etc, so therefore, something similar probably exists in their stance on aviation (Just a plot …)
 
I think we’re all missing something here with the way in which the WG are dealing with the climate/carbon situation in Wales (and the focus on this particularly within Transport). The National Transport Strategy effectively prohibits many forms of new road construction which would increase traffic flow/carbon production etc, so therefore, something similar probably exists in their stance on aviation (Just a plot …)
Unless there's any written evidence of that, I wouldn't assume that is their stance on running the Airport. Otherwise they'd have just closed it down.
 
I’m not saying that’s their stance on running an airport, but for them it must surely be a difficult investment piece (to invest in attracting airlines etc) which ultimately increases carbon emissions. A balancing act between maintaining WG policy and running a commercial airport.
 
Unless there's any written evidence of that, I wouldn't assume that is their stance on running the Airport. Otherwise they'd have just closed it down.
Lee Waters has stated in the Senedd chamber that they are committed to keeping the airport open as they feel Wales needs an international airport. But I believe he has said though that the government won't incentivise airlines to come to Cardiff.
I’m not saying that’s their stance on running an airport, but for them it must surely be a difficult investment piece (to invest in attracting airlines etc) which ultimately increases carbon emissions. A balancing act between maintaining WG policy and running a commercial airport.
 
Hi all, I’m new here, so sorry for barging in on the conversation. Has anyone noticed the single random date (Cardiff to Faro) on the Ryan air website? 26/03/2024 has been listed for a few weeks now. I wonder if it suggests a return of the route for summer 24. There’s a similar date for Malaga to spite a long gap until June.
 
Hi all, I’m new here, so sorry for barging in on the conversation. Has anyone noticed the single random date (Cardiff to Faro) on the Ryan air website? 26/03/2024 has been listed for a few weeks now. I wonder if it suggests a return of the route for summer 24. There’s a similar date for Malaga to spite a long gap until June.
Welcome to the forum. Yes I've noticed that so hopefully it does indicate that the route will resume for summer 2024 and that Malaga will also go onsale for April and May..
 
It seems its not just CWL that has seen that gap. For example EXT-ALC and EXT-AGP have the same gap, and other airports too. It seems FR have released their peak summer flights but still plenty more to come in between that.
Faro was released in November of last year for S23 so still time.
 
The headline here is clickbait.
The money is for new 3D scanners which are a new UK government requirement as part of the security requirements that keep people safe and the Welsh government is the owner The alternative is stated in the article is to close the airport by June 2024.
"aviation security is a reserved matter for the UK Government, it has consistently refused to provide any financial support for the respective UK airports to make the transition to NGS to meet the new legislated deadlines, despite the ongoing inflationary pressures on the industry."
 
The CWL critics will be pleased to have something to complain about, "bottomless pit" etc. The money had to be spent in order for the airport to operate legally.
 
The CWL critics will be pleased to have something to complain about, "bottomless pit" etc. The money had to be spent in order for the airport to operate legally.
Yep they're all over it. Not seen anything from the Tories yet.
 
CWL in it's own right currently has nothing much to offer airlines except runway and terminal capacity as the incentive to attract some custom from BRS. As others have mentioned, the 'opportunity' for CWL is that BRS is close to operational capacity and that BRS's chances of further expansion would seem limited given the strength of opposition. This, along with growing passenger dissatisfaction at the terminal crowds and delays at BRS, should result in an opportunity for CWL, even if its seen as just a BRS overflow option. Whether this situation occurs in the next couple of years remains to be seen, but the Ryanair's and even the EasyJet's of this world will be aware of this eventuality and must be considering CWL as an alternative / overflow option.

My take on this is there is no point on holding out for an airline to come to Cardiff on the basis of having a slightly longer runway than Bristol airport, or by hoping passengers will revolt from Bristol because of overcrowding. Cardiff airport needs to find its own way and not rely on the shortcomings of competing airports. While the facilities are underused the airport needs to capitalise on the positives this brings by focusing intensely on customer service. If the airport can then attract a new based operator such as Ryanair they will be able to build up passenger numbers to reach the all important critical mas which in turn will provide more growth opportunities.

Also @Samdorob Welcome to Forums4airports, good to have you with us!
 

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