Well I am back from ZRH. Although I only live 7 miles from EDI, I will never use EDI again in its present format. In my opinion it is the worst airport in the UK. I had the worst experience of my life going out through the airport.
if anyone has any flights booked give yourself plenty of time,

I was in the airport at 10am and you could not move In the check in hall

As I am disabled I booked assistance from the car park through to the gate. On calling through to the assistance reception I was told I would have to make my own way to the assistance reception, at the reception
I was then told I would have to check in my own bags this caused me major stress and I had an angina attack. I could go on but we all know EDI
is broken to many flights For such a small terminal.

Here is the bit concerning expansion at the airport

2.2 Summary of key projects
Terminal Infrastructure Expansion (Value £77m)
The Terminal Expansion project is a long-term project to address operational capacity issues across connectivity, gate rooms, immigration, check-in and retail. The project will be delivered in multiple phases over the next 7 years.

Major Runway Rehab (Value £24m)
The major Runway Rehabilitation project will relief the runway for the next 10-15 years. A full resurfacing exercise will be undertaken in winter 2025-26.

EAST Access Road (Value £21m)
The EAST Access Road project will provide resilience to the airport, creating a 2nd access from the Gogar Roundabout interchange. The project is currently on hold following the rejected planning application.

Water Quality (Value £20m)
EAL are working closely with SEPA on the Water Quality project which provides an enhanced ability to capture de-icing runoff, it will improve the water quality across all adjacent watercourses.

Security Futures (Value £18m)
The Security Futures project is scheduled to commence construction in Q2 2023. The project will complete in early 2025 and provide enhanced security control within the passenger search area.
Global Airpark Phase 1 (Value £5m)
The Global Airpark project will provide additional cargo capacity at the east of the campus near Turnhouse. Phase 1 is due to complete in 2026.

Echo Taxiway Rehabilitation (Value £4m)
The Echo taxiway rehabilitation project has passed through TG2. A temporary relocation of the taxiway centreline will be completed in Q1 2023 to mitigate further damage to the pavement concrete along the centreline. Full scale removal and reinstatement of the taxiway is scheduled for winter 23-24 after design has completed.

No mention of new air bridges or gates
 
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@Viscount sorry to hear about your not so great experience at the airport. I've never had the pleasure or displeasure of using Edinburgh Airport but I am aware of the airports growth over the last several years. Is the airport suffering from a classic case of victim of its own success do you think? I do recall when Edinburgh and Glasgow airports were level pegging passenger numbers wise. Edinburgh is substantially ahead of Glasgow these days. I notice in the previous post by @Jetsco he states the airports "current" plans. Maybe there are other plans in the pipework to help to make things run smoother but haven't yet been made public at this stage.

As for your most recent experience, are you going to contact the airport directly to express your views and concerns?
 
Well I am back from ZRH. Although I only live 7 miles from EDI, I will never use EDI again in its present format. In my opinion it is the worst airport in the UK. I had the worst experience of my life going out through the airport.
if anyone has any flights booked give yourself plenty of time,

I was in the airport at 10am and you could not move In the check in hall

As I am disabled I booked assistance from the car park through to the gate. On calling through to the assistance reception I was told I would have to make my own way to the assistance reception, at the reception
I was then told I would have to check in my own bags this caused me major stress and I had an angina attack. I could go on but we all know EDI
is broken to many flights For such a small terminal.

Here is the bit concerning expansion at the airport

2.2 Summary of key projects
Terminal Infrastructure Expansion (Value £77m)
The Terminal Expansion project is a long-term project to address operational capacity issues across connectivity, gate rooms, immigration, check-in and retail. The project will be delivered in multiple phases over the next 7 years.

Major Runway Rehab (Value £24m)
The major Runway Rehabilitation project will relief the runway for the next 10-15 years. A full resurfacing exercise will be undertaken in winter 2025-26.

EAST Access Road (Value £21m)
The EAST Access Road project will provide resilience to the airport, creating a 2nd access from the Gogar Roundabout interchange. The project is currently on hold following the rejected planning application.

Water Quality (Value £20m)
EAL are working closely with SEPA on the Water Quality project which provides an enhanced ability to capture de-icing runoff, it will improve the water quality across all adjacent watercourses.

Security Futures (Value £18m)
The Security Futures project is scheduled to commence construction in Q2 2023. The project will complete in early 2025 and provide enhanced security control within the passenger search area.
Global Airpark Phase 1 (Value £5m)
The Global Airpark project will provide additional cargo capacity at the east of the campus near Turnhouse. Phase 1 is due to complete in 2026.

Echo Taxiway Rehabilitation (Value £4m)
The Echo taxiway rehabilitation project has passed through TG2. A temporary relocation of the taxiway centreline will be completed in Q1 2023 to mitigate further damage to the pavement concrete along the centreline. Full scale removal and reinstatement of the taxiway is scheduled for winter 23-24 after design has completed.

No mention of new air bridges or gates
IMHO - Air bridges and gates fall within the general terminal expansion section. The report makes reference to capacity issues, gate rooms and immigration. Gate availability issues at peak times (for long haul aircraft) is well documented. Gate rooms is widely used at many international airports. LHR T3 being a good example. The current pier area at EDI past gate 19 could easily be re-designed to create gate rooms or “holding pens” as some like to call them.
 
There is long term plan for a new pier east of the gate 15 going towards the cargo terminal .
Also work is due to start in security to make it larger.
But this will not solve the problem with the checking area.

with regard to my complaint I have written to the airport they claim they will be back in touch.

The airport was built in the 1970s to handle 1.5 mil per year
since then they have extended it but not enough. I will be surprised if it dose not reach 16 mil this year.
 
It sounds like your complaint is being investigated. You'll have to let us know when they get back to you.

As for the airport being built in the 70s it's very much like many UK airports in that respect. My local airport is Leeds Bradford and the terminal there was originally built in the 60s and has since seen numerous piecemeal add ons which form todays terminal. The airport authority there wanted to rebuild the terminal but the government called the plans in to hold a public enquiry. With no guarantee the plans would be approved by the enquiry the airport took the decision to run with inferior plans drawn up previously to further extend the terminal. It is the sign of the times. I don't know whether it would be the Scottish government or the UK government that would intervene if Edinburgh were to encounter similar difficulties there.
 
It sounds like your complaint is being investigated. You'll have to let us know when they get back to you.

As for the airport being built in the 70s it's very much like many UK airports in that respect. My local airport is Leeds Bradford and the terminal there was originally built in the 60s and has since seen numerous piecemeal add ons which form todays terminal. The airport authority there wanted to rebuild the terminal but the government called the plans in to hold a public enquiry. With no guarantee the plans would be approved by the enquiry the airport took the decision to run with inferior plans drawn up previously to further extend the terminal. It is the sign of the times. I don't know whether it would be the Scottish government or the UK government that would intervene if Edinburgh were to encounter similar difficulties there.
EDI is obviously privately owned and is currently for sale. The Scottish Gov is SNP/Green. They don’t hide their dislike of aviation and are very anti airport. They would never bail out or go out of their way to assist the sector. The pandemic showed how anti aviation Sturgeon was. She flatly refused to engage with the sector about a safe return to travel. The airport must be a very attractive proposition right now. Booming international route portfolio and 2023 pax figures expected to be very close to or even exceed 2019 totals.
 
I alway said if they kept politic out of the airport, they could have built a brand new airport for Glasgow and Edinburgh at skin flats near Falkirk with good train links. But the politics between Glasgow and Edinburgh
we had no chance of a super hub.
Having worked at both airports they are both an embarrassment to Scotland. Both very tired And not fit for purpose.
 
Red Arrows tomorrow

Due into EDI at 1300 and back out at 1528 for the flypast at 1540 down the Royal mile, before returning to RAF Waddington.

United operated a 764 on the EWR Ua161/162 today due to
the earlier flight
being Canx due USA weather
 
It look like the early EWR flight was Canx yesterday and today
767 operated the 161/162 yesterday. Also the early morning EWR today turned back after reaching FL210 and was Canx.
Bad show for the 752. Time they were gone.

Quite a lot of long delays for stands recently. For example, yesterday's UA161 waited for over an hour on the taxiway before it could park. What plans does the airport have to increase stand capacity?
Edinburgh has plenty of remote stands but the long haul flights all want air bridges. Unfortunately They are not enough of them to cope with arriving aircraft.
I believe there is plans to add a few more airbridges to the east pier,
we will see what happens over the winter.
 
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May 2023 Stats

1,289,223 pax

Some stats and LF’s.

Some pax numbers and LF’s for long haul routes. A very solid start for Westjet. Qatar continue to perform very strongly. DL - JFK is another very strong performer.


TK - Istanbul 10,066 or 93%
QR - Doha 18,883 or 96%
UA - Chicago 7913 or 94%
UA - Newark 11,265 or 95%
UA - Washington 7966 or 94%
DL - New York JFK 12,939 or 98%
DL - Boston 8352 or 96%

New Route

Westjet - Calgary - 3315 or 94%
 
May 2023 Stats

1,289,223 pax

Some stats and LF’s.

Some pax numbers and LF’s for long haul routes. A very solid start for Westjet. Qatar continue to perform very strongly. DL - JFK is another very strong performer.


TK - Istanbul 10,066 or 93%
QR - Doha 18,883 or 96%
UA - Chicago 7913 or 94%
UA - Newark 11,265 or 95%
UA - Washington 7966 or 94%
DL - New York JFK 12,939 or 98%
DL - Boston 8352 or 96%
New Route

Westjet - Calgary - 3315 or 94%
Missed Atlanta

2566 or 97%
 
June 23

June total pax - 1398433

Some pax totals and approx load factors.

Another really good month numbers wise. Westjet will surely be delighted.

TK - Istanbul 10,130 or 94%
QR - Doha 21,067 or 96%
HN- Beijing 617 or 71%
WS - Calgary 7,308 or 96%
AC - Toronto 11,861 or 84%
DL - Atlanta 12,523 or 99%
DL - Boston 11,078 or 91%
DL - JFK 11,674 or 95%
UA - Chicago 9,932 or 97%
UA - Newark 17,045 or 94%
UA - Washington 9,744 or 96%
VS - Orlando 1,381 or 71%
 
July 2023
Total pax - 1,528,829
This total exceeds July 2019 total of 1,506,580. EDI now back to operating at pre pandemic levels.

Some approx LF’s on selected routes. United had some cancellations from EWR and IAD in July. Air Canada also had two cancellations.
Delta - ATL pax number exceeds published capacity by aircraft type. I assume some numbers were added from previous month.
Air Canada pax numbers compared to July 2022 down slightly. The Westjet factor/competition being the most likely reason.
Hainan operating at around 75%. Given the short lead in time for the service resuming, will they be happy?

Qatar passing the 30k pax mark is impressive. Their decision to go double daily is clearly the right one. Very strong performance.

QR - Doha 30,838 or 99%
TK - Istanbul 10,921 or 97%
WS - Calgary 8,242 or 96%
AC - Toronto 14,576 or 94%
DL - Atlanta 13,330 or 99%
DL - Boston 12,345 or 96%
DL - JFK 12,382 or 96%
VS - Orlando 5,953 or 90%
HU - Beijing 3,105 or 75%
UA - Newark 17,991 or 91%
UA - Chicago 10,333 or 96%
UA - Washington 10,743 or 97%
 
July 2023
Total pax - 1,528,829
This total exceeds July 2019 total of 1,506,580. EDI now back to operating at pre pandemic levels.

Some approx LF’s on selected routes. United had some cancellations from EWR and IAD in July. Air Canada also had two cancellations.
Delta - ATL pax number exceeds published capacity by aircraft type. I assume some numbers were added from previous month.
Air Canada pax numbers compared to July 2022 down slightly. The Westjet factor/competition being the most likely reason.
Hainan operating at around 75%. Given the short lead in time for the service resuming, will they be happy?

Qatar passing the 30k pax mark is impressive. Their decision to go double daily is clearly the right one. Very strong performance.

QR - Doha 30,838 or 99%
TK - Istanbul 10,921 or 97%
WS - Calgary 8,242 or 96%
AC - Toronto 14,576 or 94%
DL - Atlanta 13,330 or 99%
DL - Boston 12,345 or 96%
DL - JFK 12,382 or 96%
VS - Orlando 5,953 or 90%
HU - Beijing 3,105 or 75%
UA - Newark 17,991 or 91%
UA - Chicago 10,333 or 96%
UA - Washington 10,743 or 97%
Some really great loads there. Doha is phenomenal as is Atlanta. Beijing is slightly disappointing and a surprise if I'm honest. I wonder how the Manchester route is performing for comparison.
 
Some really great loads there. Doha is phenomenal as is Atlanta. Beijing is slightly disappointing and a surprise if I'm honest. I wonder how the Manchester route is performing for comparison.
Hainan - Manchester

LF is very similar to EDI. Total pax for July - 7488. Approx LF of 74% The Manchester route operates 4 x weekly compared to 2 x weekly at EDI. You could argue therefore that EDI operating with half the frequency/capacity with a similar LF is actually doing okay In comparison. Given the short lead in time for the resumption at EDI, on reflection, the route performed not bad at all.
 

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