If the administrator lets it happen will the previous mob want to run it or will Connect try? It's home base would be where, BHX, LHR, MAN or maybe Exeter simply for UK regional services and not competing with Jet2, Ryanair or Easyjet?
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On other forums there’s speculation that it could be to bid for the Aer Lingus Regional contract. Perhaps a Stobart Air/Cityjet type operation, flying on behalf of other airlines, is the way forward?
Here is a further take on what the new Flybe strategy might be and the challenges it faces
Flybe must adapt to survive in challenging market - should it return
Flybe will be entering an extremely uncertain market should it return next year, analysts have warned.
A possible return for the regional carrier was mooted earlier this week, with administrators at EY selling the remaining assets of the airline to a new owner.
However, the challenges to a successful relaunch remain enormous, warns Ralph Hollister, tourism analyst at GlobalData.
He said: “Flybe re-starting flights as early as next year will provide some much-needed optimism for the UK and its current economic situation.
“However, the airline needs to avoid a repeat of what occurred last March by learning from its mistakes.
“Flybe has carefully assessed the key reasons as to why it was forced into administration earlier this year.
“The previous incarnation of Flybe pursued a rapid growth strategy before it ran into serious problems.
“The continuation with such aggressive capacity growth in the face of other airlines falling by the wayside was high-risk and ended up being a significant contributing factor towards its failure.”
Flybe entered administration in March when years of financial losses were compounded by the outbreak of the Covid-19 pandemic.
Hollister continued: “The ongoing issues that Flybe originally suffered with could be amplified for its relaunch due to Covid-19.
“It is still unclear what Flybe’s new operational strategy will look like, but it may be that Flybe will aim to increase its market share domestically
“Flybe was reliant upon a number of different macro-economic factors in a single island nation to run smoothly in order to achieve operational success, instead of spreading its operations more evenly around Europe to decrease this risk.
“Sluggish consumer spending was a contributing factor to Flybe’s demise, and this may be even worse due to COVID-19 and the negative economic implications the pandemic has brought with it.”
According to Cirium data, Flybe was one of the largest operators of short haul routes within the UK and Europe before it collapsed, operating a total of 2,374 flights a week with 175,260 available seats from 43 different hubs.
The figures are based on the month of January this year, pre the coronavirus outbreak.
It was the third largest airline in the UK, measured by volume of flights after easyJet and British Airways, representing 11 per cent of all flights operated by UK carriers.
Hollister concludes: “It looks as though Flybe will once again be entering the same hyper-competitive market, which is now even more so due to Covid-19.
“Flybe’s price point caused it to be stuck in the middle ground between the UK flag carrier – British Airways, and low-cost carriers – Ryanair and easyJet.
“Since Flybe’s departure from the airline industry, the major players in the UK airline industry have not changed and these airlines still consume large parts of the UK market.
“However, opportunities are present - domestic travel is set to recover before international travel, which could bode well for Flybe if it is focusing on the UK market.
“Struggling UK airports may also be willing to offer slots for a cheaper fee than usual, especially as airlines such as easyJet have been pulling out of the kind of secondary locations that Flybe is likely to target, such as Newcastle and Southend.
“In order for Flybe’s relaunch to be successful, it is imperative that the airline grows gradually with demand.
“It needs to maintain a slow growth strategy in order to remain reactive to changes in key costs and increases in competition, which can occur quickly due to the turbulent nature of the industry.”
Flybe must adapt to survive in challenging market - should it return
Flybe will be entering an extremely uncertain market should it return next year, analysts have warned.
A possible return for the regional carrier was mooted earlier this week, with administrators at EY selling the remaining assets of the airline to a new owner.
However, the challenges to a successful relaunch remain enormous, warns Ralph Hollister, tourism analyst at GlobalData.
He said: “Flybe re-starting flights as early as next year will provide some much-needed optimism for the UK and its current economic situation.
“However, the airline needs to avoid a repeat of what occurred last March by learning from its mistakes.
“Flybe has carefully assessed the key reasons as to why it was forced into administration earlier this year.
“The previous incarnation of Flybe pursued a rapid growth strategy before it ran into serious problems.
“The continuation with such aggressive capacity growth in the face of other airlines falling by the wayside was high-risk and ended up being a significant contributing factor towards its failure.”
Flybe entered administration in March when years of financial losses were compounded by the outbreak of the Covid-19 pandemic.
Hollister continued: “The ongoing issues that Flybe originally suffered with could be amplified for its relaunch due to Covid-19.
“It is still unclear what Flybe’s new operational strategy will look like, but it may be that Flybe will aim to increase its market share domestically
“Flybe was reliant upon a number of different macro-economic factors in a single island nation to run smoothly in order to achieve operational success, instead of spreading its operations more evenly around Europe to decrease this risk.
“Sluggish consumer spending was a contributing factor to Flybe’s demise, and this may be even worse due to COVID-19 and the negative economic implications the pandemic has brought with it.”
According to Cirium data, Flybe was one of the largest operators of short haul routes within the UK and Europe before it collapsed, operating a total of 2,374 flights a week with 175,260 available seats from 43 different hubs.
The figures are based on the month of January this year, pre the coronavirus outbreak.
It was the third largest airline in the UK, measured by volume of flights after easyJet and British Airways, representing 11 per cent of all flights operated by UK carriers.
Hollister concludes: “It looks as though Flybe will once again be entering the same hyper-competitive market, which is now even more so due to Covid-19.
“Flybe’s price point caused it to be stuck in the middle ground between the UK flag carrier – British Airways, and low-cost carriers – Ryanair and easyJet.
“Since Flybe’s departure from the airline industry, the major players in the UK airline industry have not changed and these airlines still consume large parts of the UK market.
“However, opportunities are present - domestic travel is set to recover before international travel, which could bode well for Flybe if it is focusing on the UK market.
“Struggling UK airports may also be willing to offer slots for a cheaper fee than usual, especially as airlines such as easyJet have been pulling out of the kind of secondary locations that Flybe is likely to target, such as Newcastle and Southend.
“In order for Flybe’s relaunch to be successful, it is imperative that the airline grows gradually with demand.
“It needs to maintain a slow growth strategy in order to remain reactive to changes in key costs and increases in competition, which can occur quickly due to the turbulent nature of the industry.”
Maybe FLYBE or it's successor should serve city pairs that are relevant and otherwise not served by foreign flag carriers, Ryanair included. Addressing those issues leading to the unfortunate but apt nickname will bring some confidence back to previous customers.
nbdm
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Would the slots that were required to be given to a competitor (CDG-BHX and AMS-BHX) under the original buyout conditions be made available to the 'new Flybe' too?
IanFarquharson
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No airline wanted them so I guess FlyBe could have them
I am surprised nobody has mentioned FlyMayBe BHX Followers ??
It has been mentioned on the dried fruit forum that there is a Dash 8 (Ex Austrian) in Exeter waiting to be painted for the new FlyBe, so what does this mean for BHX ??
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It has been mentioned on the dried fruit forum that there is a Dash 8 (Ex Austrian) in Exeter waiting to be painted for the new FlyBe, so what does this mean for BHX ??
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Coathanger16
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I'm not sure how I feel about it.
I do miss seeing Flybe around, but are there any domestic routes still unserved that Flybe used to?
Flybe's core market was domestic and near continent (Paris & Amsterdam), so I can't see any reincarnation going any further than that, at least not to start with.
In the middle of a pandemic when air travel is down 90% and with competition on many routes, now is hardly the best time to launch a new airline.
I do miss seeing Flybe around, but are there any domestic routes still unserved that Flybe used to?
Flybe's core market was domestic and near continent (Paris & Amsterdam), so I can't see any reincarnation going any further than that, at least not to start with.
In the middle of a pandemic when air travel is down 90% and with competition on many routes, now is hardly the best time to launch a new airline.
Yes I feel the same, too many time's BHX get's caught out with these new airlines, it is time for BHX to shut the door on this type of carrier and played with the big boys.
I am sure there are lots of smaller airports in the UK that might benefit from a new Flybe but I am not convinced they are suited to BHX.
IanFarquharson
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I think they are totally suited to BHX - so many unserved routes.
They have now secured a second ex Austrian Dash 8
Maybe dispense with the Flybe name but resurrect those routes with good prospect of success and a new title. Air UK wasn't too bad in it's day, who owns it now?
Kevin Farnell
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Indeed but you just know they will probably start flights to Paris and Amsterdam and Belfast City and Jersey, not really going to help the long list of BHX unserved routes ??
IanFarquharson
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There is still a shortage of capacity on all those routes
Matty_85
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I totally agree. Poor reputation & not what the airport needs.
Nethercote2019
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In current times any thoughts of more services would be good news, personally I would welcome them back, I flew with them many times & many of the destinations missing would be ideal for 70 odd seater.
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This isn’t true- that air frame is being parted out and broken up.I am surprised nobody has mentioned FlyMayBe BHX Followers ??
It has been mentioned on the dried fruit forum that there is a Dash 8 (Ex Austrian) in Exeter waiting to be painted for the new FlyBe, so what does this mean for BHX ??
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Well that is the reason why I am not a member of the dried fruit forum, full of fake news
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Is that the UK registered one? Seems odd to register it then scrap it.
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