Flybe

[JENNYJET]

Currently, one has to yomp from Euston mainline to St. Pancras international with luggage and issue as there is no public transport link except Taxi and is the HS2 terminal being incorporated into Euston? Illogical choice but then, this is England! Not everyone has Royal Marines training.

A regular air link from Birmingham makes sense for Euro Cities. The resurrected Flybe could easily full up seats if made available.

 

[KARFA]

Why on earth would flybe2 want to just copy flybe1? It didn't work out well for flybe1 who were already struggling well before covid.

I think if I was in charge of flybe2 and someone came in suggesting we do a route because flybe1 did it I would question their sanity, especially since it will be a route also served by LS, KL, and U2.

Tbh the idea the train represents competition from Birmingham to Amsterdam is a little bizarre considering the time you would need (7 hours if you are lucky from stepping in to Birmingham station to stepping off at Amsterdam). The Eurostar may be significant from London/South East to Amsterdam, it isn't from anywhere else in the UK.

Currently, one has to yomp from Euston mainline to St. Pancras international with luggage and issue as there is no public transport link except Taxi and is the HS2 terminal being incorporated into Euston? Illogical choice but then, this is England!

It is easily walkable in 5-10 minutes, there is the tube going directly between the two, or very frequent buses along the Euston Road.

 

[IanFarquharson]

Amsterdam was up to 12-13 per day at one stage and up to 70,000 pax a month, so with Jet 2 just a couple of times a week a couple of Dash 8's a day would still work.
Paris - 100% underserved
Shannon / Cork - Aer Lingus mainline wont pick these up so ideal Dash 8 routes as would be Waterford & Knock
Lots of French routes now unserved inc Lyon & Toulouse plus all the summer only routes
Scottish routes all underserved.
Lots in Germany too
Watch this space

 

[JENNYJET]

Yes KARFA, going from Euston platforms to the Bus station involves a measure of effort that would defeat me and is walkable to the majority. Even getting to a tube train is not so easy as the pedestrian tunnels and escalators are quite lengthy and Euston Square station is often necessary which is not connected to mainline. And yes, it is a bizarre choice from Birmingham by land which is why people may elect to use Flybe if the flags cannot supply sufficient services.

 

[CM.]

Tbh the idea the train represents competition from Birmingham to Amsterdam is a little bizarre considering the time you would need (7 hours if you are lucky from stepping in to Birmingham station to stepping off at Amsterdam). The Eurostar may be significant from London/South East to Amsterdam, it isn't from anywhere else in the UK.

It does seem bizarre. But I’m sure people do it. Though I’d rather fly as it’s less hassle and probably cheaper. I can see people who do it are people who dread planes as they go on the environmental bandwagon. I do my best to avoid trains as they are a nightmare and unreliable hence why I would like the LBA-LHR back to avoid the hassle.

As for Flybe I have to see it to believe it. As I’m happy to hear they are looking to make a comeback. Apparently they are hiring rob roles at EMA airport as they plan to have a base there so I’m seeming confident on that level we will see them operating at some point.

 

[KARFA]

Yes KARFA, going from Euston platforms to the Bus station involves a measure of effort that would defeat me and is walkable to the majority. Even getting to a tube train is not so easy as the pedestrian tunnels and escalators are quite lengthy and Euston Square station is often necessary which is not connected to mainline.

I do appreciate it may be difficult for you, but it doesn't need Royal Marines training or lack direct public transport options between the two as suggested.

 

[JENNYJET]

From my perspective, military fitness is essential. I am pleased I no longer attend the Hammersmith hospital or Charing Cross but I welcome and appreciate your comments KARFA.

 

[Matty_85]

I don’t think BHX should cosy up or prioritise Flybe again on routes. It’s reputation is 0% after the collapse and it wasn’t particularly great before that (expensive, poor app & basic online facilities, very mediocre customer service). Plus there will be no consumer confidence in buying tickets from them. I really hope BHX keeps them at arms length and continues to encourage EasyJet, eurowings etc to pick up the lost capacity.

 

[Seasider]

Amsterdam was up to 12-13 per day at one stage and up to 70,000 pax a month, so with Jet 2 just a couple of times a week a couple of Dash 8's a day would still work.
Paris - 100% underserved
Shannon / Cork - Aer Lingus mainline wont pick these up so ideal Dash 8 routes as would be Waterford & Knock
Lots of French routes now unserved inc Lyon & Toulouse plus all the summer only routes
Scottish routes all underserved.
Lots in Germany too
Watch this space

I think you should add " ..if we get back to pre-covid passenger numbers"

 

[CM.]

Also to add you have to remember there has been a massive hit to the industry so you can’t expect everything to be at the same frequency’s as they were in 2019. That goes for routes aswell sadly not every single route you had before the pandemic will come back and if they do probably not at the frequency they were before.

Especially if the route wasn’t a popular one.

As nice as it would be it’s not the reality at the moment.

 

[finchy168]

Flybe edges closer to return as it starts recruitment drive for key personnel - FlightGlobal

Defunct UK carrier Flybe has moved a step closer to an unlikely resurrection after beginning a recruitment drive for key training personnel. Defunct UK carrier Flybe has moved a step closer to an unlikely resurrection after beginning a recruitment drive for key training personnel. The carrier in...

www.flightglobal.com

Bhx base?

 

[IanFarquharson]

Flybe edges closer to return as it starts recruitment drive for key personnel - FlightGlobal

Defunct UK carrier Flybe has moved a step closer to an unlikely resurrection after beginning a recruitment drive for key training personnel. Defunct UK carrier Flybe has moved a step closer to an unlikely resurrection after beginning a recruitment drive for key training personnel. The carrier in...

www.flightglobal.com

Bhx base?

Watch this space

 

[rollo]

Some weeks ago Flybe2 were advertising in the trade magazine Pilotcareernews.co.uk various roles based in the Midlands can't see it being EMA.

They also previously advertised senior management roles in the Midlands so pretty obvious what the plan is to me. Whether it happens or not is another matter of course.

 

[Matty_85]

Do they only operate Dash 8s?

 

[Poshgirl]

There's speculation in aviation media that a lessor has up to 20 Dash 8s available which could be for Flybe Mk2.

 

[rollo]

There was an announcement by the company in a press release that the intention was to start small and grow from there so 20 Dash 8s would be vastly over optimistic.

I also believe the 20 Dash 8s in question (ex Flybe?) are earmarked elsewhere by the owners reading the aviation press.

 

[Poshgirl]

As with media sources, they all have their own particular "take" on what's happening. The one I read intimated that up to 20 were available.

As a former boss's son (a journalist) said "If it's in the papers it must be true. Don't believe everything you read in the papers". Sums it up nicely!

 

[rollo]

Couldn't agree more Poshgirl but who who do we believe? The government, the BBC or twitter etc.

Pay your money take your choice I tend to look at the trade press.

 

[Poshgirl]

Exactly rollo!

I stopped subscribing to site of a well-known frequent traveller (he's been on a recent tv programme). The reason, everything reported he claimed to be exclusive/first with the news. Very naughty, as I'd seen the same on other sites pre-dating his supposed "scoops".

 

[TheLocalYokel]

There was a post in a well-known aviation forum a few days ago based on a report in FlightGlobal that contained this extract from that publication's article.

But the lessor is already close to securing customers for all 20 aircraft. “Aergo Capital acquired 20 ex-FlyBe Q400s earlier this year and have found very strong demand for these aircraft across four continents".

It tends to suggest that not all 20 aircraft will be finding their way to the new Flybe, although how many, if any, will find their new home there is unclear.