Teesside International Airport - General Thread

[pug]

Have to wait and see, Ryanair are quite good and operating at airports where are operators don't look at.

They are, but there’s an added element of risk (and cost) by adding a base when compared to flights in from other bases. I have absolutely no doubt that MME management are offering very competitive deals and support to attract such an investment, but even with large subsidy you have to remember that MME would be competing with hundreds of other airports across Europe..

I’ve no doubt MME could support a base, just like HUY, NWI, EXT could. But there’s being able to support one and there’s a strategic value in having one. Mme I don’t think has that.

 

[Stagman]

The railway station is set to be rebuilt.

Plans for new 'fit-for-purpose' railway station at Teesside Airport

Tees Valley Mayor Ben Houchen says £20million investment will see a fully accessible station installed at the airport

www.gazettelive.co.uk

 

[Silvercity]

The railway station is set to be rebuilt.

Plans for new 'fit-for-purpose' railway station at Teesside Airport

Tees Valley Mayor Ben Houchen says £20million investment will see a fully accessible station installed at the airport

www.gazettelive.co.uk

Lucky for MME , this is just what LPL needs.

 

[pug]

The railway station is set to be rebuilt.

Plans for new 'fit-for-purpose' railway station at Teesside Airport

Tees Valley Mayor Ben Houchen says £20million investment will see a fully accessible station installed at the airport

www.gazettelive.co.uk

Do you support this? I can stomach speculative investment into things like the business park to ensure revenue keeps the airport alive, but this is complete and utter monumental waste of public money which is bordering on the criminal.

Trains never stopped there because passengers didn’t use it, it had a parliamentary service for years and now Network Rail want to close it BH is using this purely for political capital with millions to be squandered on a blatant white elephant.

How is this going to work? The rail companies will not use it. Unless there is to be a new town development close by… If ever there was a case for a judicial review then this would be it.

 

[Stagman]

Not in its current location, No I don't.

The ideal spot to put the station would be up at the main road bridge. Where it would have much more of an impact and have a greater variety of use. So would see far more usage.

Even at current terminal passenger levels plus the other sources for railway passengers. I'd put the relocated station having 40-60,000 passengers a year, based on a half hour service from first to last train.

But another factor of having the station at the road bridge, it would help open up land on other side of the A67 roundabout for development. Thus creating more rail demand.

 

[Dale Coalbrook]

Railway station et al…Teesside definitely on the up.With Leeds and ongoing weather and logistical transport problems…could,just could provide a major hit to Leeds?
Wizz rumours going around apparently..could be a goer?

 

[pug]

Railway station et al…Teesside definitely on the up.With Leeds and ongoing weather and logistical transport problems…could,just could provide a major hit to Leeds?
Wizz rumours going around apparently..could be a goer?

Absolutely not.

For a start the railway station will not work as no service provider will stop there.

Wizz, if they leave LBA, would not hang around at Teesside either. They shunned Ben Houchens team last time when he attempted to poach them from DSA. They went into LBA instead.

In real passenger numbers, the airport will not grow much more than its current level. It might attract more from TUI but at the moment they don’t seem all that bothered. I had heard they had hoped to get easyjet in (and that was the planned announcement in October that didn’t happen) but they have returned to Newcastle.

Be assured, the current lot in charge of Teesside are actively offering heavy subsidy to attract new business. The business is unlikely to materialise because the demand isn’t strong enough.

 

[Snackbar]

Railway station et al…Teesside definitely on the up.With Leeds and ongoing weather and logistical transport problems…could,just could provide a major hit to Leeds?
Wizz rumours going around apparently..could be a goer?

Railway station et al…Teesside definitely on the up.With Leeds and ongoing weather and logistical transport problems…could,just could provide a major hit to Leeds?
Wizz rumours going around apparently..could be a goer?

Teesside would never compete with LBA. Who on earth from West Yorks (which is where most of LBAs market comes from) would want to travel to a minor airport at Teesside when significantly better options are available from Manchester with the same or less travelling time. Add to that Jet2 and Ryanair which makes up most of LBAs traffic would never open an operational base when Newcastle already serves most of the NE market.
LBA have just committed £100m investment into the airport - companies don't do that unless they have a sound business case and a pipeline of prospective revenue, unless of course you’re the mayor and you are spending other peoples money…
What will change is Teesside is the ongoing subsidising of operations. More then likely there will be a change of government this year and expect significantly greater scrutiny of the Mayors actions by a Labour gov who rightly or wrongly will be keen to see Mr Houchen get his comeuppance!

 

[Stagman]

Airbourne Colours announced they are to go in the new hangar being built.

Teessider Returns to His Roots as His Global Aviation Company Announces Airport Base - Teesside International Airport

A Teessider who founded a world-leading aircraft painting firm is returning to his roots by setting up a new base at Teesside International Airport. Steve Darbyshire is the founder and Chief Executive of Airbourne Colours – a world-leading company which paints aircraft from around the globe. Now...

www.teessideinternational.com

 

[Kevin Farnell]

Any idea what size aircraft it can accommodate?

 

[Stagman]

737 Max9 / 321 neo

 

[Dale Coalbrook]

I’m a little perturbed and perplexed ?

Is anybody else on these forums..a slightly bit concerned that a level playing field does not exist on retaining,developing and sustaining UK airports?

We have lost DSA,CAX,Manston and numerous smaller fields.
Yet Teesside Airport continues to have millions ..absolutely millions pumped into it?

Rishi of course is the adjacent MP(and pm)..is he going the extra mile?

New Hangers,railway station and airline incentives(allegedly) !

Not sure about all this..comments ?

 

[pug]

I’m a little perturbed and perplexed ?

Is anybody else on these forums..a slightly bit concerned that a level playing field does not exist on retaining,developing and sustaining UK airports?

We have lost DSA,CAX,Manston and numerous smaller fields.
Yet Teesside Airport continues to have millions ..absolutely millions pumped into it?

Rishi of course is the adjacent MP(and pm)..is he going the extra mile?

New Hangers,railway station and airline incentives(allegedly) !

Not sure about all this..comments ?

Well after today’s findings following the investigation into corruption stopping short of suggesting any illegality or criminal behaviour behind done of the enterprises Ben Houchen is involved in, there are still question marks over how he has been allowed to squander many millions of £ into something that has very little chance of actually succeeding and providing any return whatsoever to the local population.

Thing with these projects is that they always crash and burn unless they have serious private sector support that isn’t relying on endless public subsidy. Ironically in his quest for safeguarding the airport, Houchen may have sealed its longer term fate.

 

[Stagman]

Teesside International Airport transformed into New York International Airport for Prime film Upgraded.

Stars film at Teesside Airport for 'major Hollywood film'

Famous yellow New York taxis even pulled up outside Teesside Airport during the filming for Upgraded

www.gazettelive.co.uk

 

[GolfFox]

Railway station et al…Teesside definitely on the up.With Leeds and ongoing weather and logistical transport problems…could,just could provide a major hit to Leeds?
Wizz rumours going around apparently..could be a goer?

Super little airport which hopefully will survive when Mr Houchen's money runs out but doubt it will ever affect LBA. In spite of all the perceived issues, LBA is in the middle of a very large catchment area which up to now has generated success and expansion of passenger numbers. For Teesside it's a bit of a reverse situation - great little airport but proximity to Newcastle and insufficient catchment area of its own to work with are barriers to large expansion.

 

[Stagman]

A nice touch.

Lasting Tribute Paid To War Hero As New Airport Business Park Road Named - Teesside International Airport

A lasting tribute to a Second World War hero has been paid with the naming of the road connecting to Teesside International Airport’s new £200million business park. The newly built mile-long road to Business Park South from the A67 will be known as Mynarski Way, after Canadian air gunner Andrew...

www.teessideinternational.com

 

[GolfFox]

I’m a little perturbed and perplexed ?

Is anybody else on these forums..a slightly bit concerned that a level playing field does not exist on retaining,developing and sustaining UK airports?

We have lost DSA,CAX,Manston and numerous smaller fields.
Yet Teesside Airport continues to have millions ..absolutely millions pumped into it?

Rishi of course is the adjacent MP(and pm)..is he going the extra mile?

New Hangers,railway station and airline incentives(allegedly) !

Not sure about all this..comments ?

The Government are not directly involved in regional airports and thus there is no apparent national policy. Regional authorities are able to spend Development Grants (more or less) as they please and thus some airports in Public ownership such as Teesside have enjoyed subsidy from public funds whereas those in the Private sector such as DSA generally have not - up to now. I agree there seems to be no consistency nor will there be. Some of the money being poured into Teesside e.g. hangars will create alternative revenue streams which it will need as it can't be making any money from the four scheduled flights a day. Of course the investment in that sort of thing by aviation related businesses which sort of makes sense is reliant on the airfield remaining open! The holiday flights will no doubt be heavily incentivised. A railway station at this moment in time in my opinion is a waste of money - unless it can be positioned to serve a currently unserved wider community as well as the airport - as the airport passenger numbers do not come anywhere near to justifying it. But..... what do we know?????

 

[Stagman]

Please move this conversation over to the relevant (General) thread.

This thread is for the CAA Stats.

Moved as requested.

 

[Jerry]

I'd expect this is good news for Teesside as the airport seems a personal project for him.

Ben Houchen wins third term as Tees Valley Mayor with reduced majority

Lord Houchen said he planned to double down on his efforts for the Tees Valley after being elected with 54 per cent of the vote

uk.news.yahoo.com

 

[Stagman]

Malaga & Tenerife flights are definite, hints of more routes as well. Also Houchen said they are expected an airline based operations from 2026.