Monarch Airlines

[Jordan-34092]

Nicholas as far as I am aware monarch is to acquire some used A320/321 aircraft from another airline these are to be used as a temporary measure as I heard the airline is to place a order for new aircraft by December of this year.

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[wawkrk]

Monarch are to lease 4 737 classics until new aircraft arrive.

 

[tleeds]

Monarch are to lease 4 737 classics until new aircraft arrive.

That's an unusual move... especially when they currently have nearly an all Airbus fleet (give or take the few B757's)

...Surely leasing A320's would make more sense..?

 

[Jordan-34092]

That was I thought I knew they were to lease some aircraft so I presumed they would be A320s at least to go with the fleet unless this is hinting at them possibly returning to use Boeing aircraft

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[wawkrk]

Monarch will be using AXE (Air Explore) - B733 and LSK (Aurela) - B734 from BHX and LLC (Small Planet Airlines) - 734 and AEY (Air Italy) - 734 from EMA.

 

[Moo2009]

When are we expected to here an announcement on these new routes from Monarch

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[Jordan-34092]

When are we expected to here an announcement on these new routes from Monarch

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August/September time I'm guessing.

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[White Heather]

According to the airport the announcement as to what Monarch are doing in summer 2013 is due in September, although they clearly have some idea what is happening already. I believe I posted something to this effect a few weeks ago now as I had written to ask when we would hear more and that was their answer.

 

[SNOWMAN]

hi all

just seen a report on prune that lba has paid monarch 7million pounds for 2 years flying, any one any info on this.

sm1

 

[Aviador]

hi all

just seen a report on prune that lba has paid monarch 7million pounds for 2 years flying, any one any info on this.

sm1

I can't see it myself there would be no sense in it. Why would Tesco pay you to go shop there?

 

[lbaspotter]

hi all

just seen a report on prune that lba has paid monarch 7million pounds for 2 years flying, any one any info on this.

sm1

Yeah "Snowman 1" i've just read it too in the Durham Tees Valley Airport thread on prune: It looks that message has have been posted by someone that works at Teeside Airport.

The link might not work but here goes:
http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airports ... ost7274729

 

[lbaspotter]

Thinking about it in another way, Could it be that the so called £7million mentioned on prune this morning was not a pay-off by the airport, but instead a big discount has been offered to Monarch to use LBA over a 2 years contract period?

So say that LBA have agreed to drop the landing fees, parking fees and local passenger duty, But Monarch will have to get so many passengers through the terminal, Just like the kind of deal airports have with Ryanair?

It would mean that LBA are pretty sure that Monarch can fill the routes, So they then recoup the £7 million by all passengers who will spend there money in the terminal's Shops, Cafe-Bars and use the airports Car Parks.
Also not forgetting the added extra's like the £2 drop-off/pick up fee, £3 Fast Track through to Security and another £17.50 for anyone that uses the Premier Lounge

 

[cmj]

And if LBA didn't spend £7m to get Monarch to fly there maybe they wouldn't need to charge £2 to drop off fee, £3.50 to get through security on the same day as your flight, £17.50 to get a seat to wait for the flight then a proposed £5 to get through immigration on the same day you land.

 

[dsarampy]

hi all

just seen a report on prune that lba has paid monarch 7million pounds for 2 years flying, any one any info on this.

sm1

I can't see it myself there would be no sense in it. Why would Tesco pay you to go shop there?

But Tesco does in a roundabout sort of way, why do you think they are giving 5p a litre off fuel when you spend £40 in store, although the figures are different it amounts to the same thing its called speculate to accumulate. It increases though put then turnover and hopefully there is a bit more cream on the top.
Something we down at Dsa have been saying for a while but no one appears to be listening

 

[Aviador]

I can't see it myself there would be no sense in it. Why would Tesco pay you to go shop there?

But Tesco does in a roundabout sort of way, why do you think they are giving 5p a litre off fuel when you spend £40 in store

Because you've already paid for your petrol in store through the extra 5p on every other product you buy. :s_yes

 

[User0001]

And if LBA didn't spend £7m to get Monarch to fly there maybe they wouldn't need to charge £2 to drop off fee, £3.50 to get through security on the same day as your flight, £17.50 to get a seat to wait for the flight then a proposed £5 to get through immigration on the same day you land.

Yeah I agree lets not pay Monarch to fly people to here there and everywhere from our doorstep - infact lets not pay ryanair and jet2 too to operate their many many routes. Lets shut the airport altogether and then you wont have to pay anything eh. When are you people going to realise you have to pay for things in life - You could always drive to Lanzarote - see how you feel after the trip and how much you've had to spend then cmj and get back to me. Or pay to get to MAN, EMA etc by car, train or minibus and see how much that costs. Oh but wait it turns out these airports have had to pay airlines to operate from those bases too and look for ways to get their money back.

It is like I said in this forum years ago; Airlines rule now - not airports. Things have completely changed from the 80s. We are very privileged to have an airport on our doorstep that is actively searching to grow the number of routes it offers so stop moaning about these relatively small costs and think how lucky you are to be able to fly all round Europe for very relatively little.

 

[lbaspotter]

Yeah I agree lets not pay Monarch to fly people to here there and everywhere from our doorstep - infact lets not pay ryanair and jet2 too to operate their many many routes. Lets shut the airport altogether and then you wont have to pay anything eh. When are you people going to realise you have to pay for things in life - You could always drive to Lanzarote - see how you feel after the trip and how much you've had to spend then cmj and get back to me. Or pay to get to MAN, EMA etc by car, train or minibus and see how much that costs. Oh but wait it turns out these airports have had to pay airlines to operate from those bases too and look for ways to get their money back.

It is like I said in this forum years ago; Airlines rule now - not airports. Things have completely changed from the 80s. We are very privileged to have an airport on our doorstep that is actively searching to grow the number of routes it offers so stop moaning about these relatively small costs and think how lucky you are to be able to fly all round Europe for very relatively little.

I totally agree with you LUFC PETE.

If LBA didn't offer the discounts to airlines, For sure we wouldn't have the routes and as many services as we have offer now by the likes of Ryanair, Easyjet, Thomson's and PIA along with possibly both Monarch and the restored London Heathrow route by British Airways.

We would have an airport much like what it was like back in the 80's & 90's. LBA would for sure have likely been stuck in a recession busting rut.
Yeah for sure LBA would have most likely hung on to and kept the busier scheduled routes along with the most popular charter destinations. But that's about it.

No doubt Ryanair would have pulled out quickly never mind expanded like have done in recent times. It might have been even worse, LBA could have ended up like Cardiff, Teeside, Humberside and Doncaster Airports to name but a few.

Then everyone would all be complaining if they didn't have the routes and services from there local airport anymore: Why wont this airline come in! Or we use to have that service and it did well! Why have I got to Manchester, when I have an airport next door to me! and so on....

 

[tleeds]

At the end of the day the airport is expanding and is becoming a bigger success day after day, so as long as they carry on doing what they are doing and successfully expanding, who cares if they've had to pay Monarch or any other airline..?!

 

[User0001]

It also would be wise to remember that figures quoted on pprune that relate to goings on at LBIA are at best very wide of the mark and are very probably completely ficticious. There are some very unhappy bunnies at Teesside these days. They pay development charges etc for virtually no routes. Anyway back on track : Monarch.

 

[User0001]

No, and they still won't comment on Thomas Cook. I have tried more than one source and there is certainly an information blackout on the subject. On the subject of Monarch though, it was suggested today at the Consultative Committee meeting that we are looking at between 16 and 18 routes from LBA by Monarch in summer 2013, AND, Munich is a year round route, not winter only. It is aimed at more than the ski market and is to attract business passengers and leisure too all year round. 16- 18 routes is considerably more than I envisaged. If that come to fruition it would more than make up for the loss of pax should Thomas Cook leave, but if they stay, we are going to need that terminal extension (and parallel taxiway) sooner than anyone imagined.

Not me White Heather. I have always said we needed a proper terminal extension years ago (plus allied airport development) - I'm sure you will remember. I stated that "the good thing for us LBIA enthusiasts is the airport will now go out and get airlines in". They have; Easy, Ryanair and encouraging Jet2 to keep growing. Now BA and MON. Millions of passengers spending in the terminal has always been the aim.