Ryanair

[Jordan-34092]

So what if ryanair are to open up a base at MAN, it's not sticking two fingers up at LBA, and there is no chance they would leave LBA, not unless they want rivals such as Easyjet to take over.

 

[Bigman]

Wouldn't surprise me if he also announced an extra aircraft at LBA to continue his onslaught on the North of England. LPL would definitely be miffed as they stand to lose more that most.

 

[leedsman]

Having looked at the FR Winter timetable on sale now, there still seems to be a quite a few gaps for the 2 based aircraft. I'm not too familiar with the timing of the release of their winter services, but some of the gaps seem pretty large so I can only assume there is more to come. From what I can see (feel free to correct) ;

Mon: Aircraft 1 covers Dublin x2 and Weeze with a gap from around 1300 to 1930.
Mon: Aircraft 2 free until the Gdansk dep at 1705

Tue: Aircraft 1 busy all day covering Dublin (am), Krakow and Malaga
Tue: Aircraft 2 free until 13.20 then covers Alicante and Dublin (pm)

Wed: both aircraft fully utilised covering Dublin x2, Weeze, Kaunas, Riga and Barcelona

Thu: Aircraft 1 busy all day covering Dublin (am), Venice and Malaga
Thu: Aircraft 2 free until 13.20 then covers Alicante and Dublin (pm)

Fri: both aircraft fully utilised covering Dublin x2, Weeze, Barcelona, Fuerteventura and Gdansk

Sat: Aircraft 1 busy all day covering Dublin (am), Krakow and Malaga
Sat: Aircraft 2 free until 16.10 then covers Alicante dep at 16.35

Sun: both aircraft busy covering Dublin x2, Venice, Kaunas, Riga and Barcelona

Aircraft 2 on Monday would look to have enough time to slot in a Canaries rotation ?? Only Wed, Fri and Sun look complete.

ACE and FAO appear to be covered by non based aircraft.

 

[User0001]

That's how I see it too, with a couple of slight differences. There is a Krakow scheduled for Thursday morning which takes care of your gap on aircraft 2. I also suspect they will switch the 06:45 departure to DUB on Sunday morning to an early afternoon DUB-LBA-DUB run using a DUB based aircraft - not that in doing so, it will create a useful gap to do something else with.

The decent gap on Saturday could be used for a couple of ski runs. I think they have done Grenoble, Turin and Salzburg in the past from LPL, but it certainly wasn't a big programme last winter.

The two big gaps on Mon and Sat do look ideal for Canary Island runs. Mon and Sat used to be the main accommodation changeover days for Gran Canaria. Not sure if still the case, but LPA is the only Canary Island not currently served this winter so could be an opportunity.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

I can only tell of the experience at Bristol Airport where Ryanair has a 5-aircraft base.

Last winter, for instance, there were huge gaps in the schedue through the winter with only three aircraft needed most days and even the three weren't always fully utilised.

The timetable for this winter at BRS is broadly as last winter in terms of rotations though destinations aren't all the same. However, as has been said so often on this site Ryanair goes through numerous published timetables in the months leading up to the next season (in this case winter 11/12) before arriving at the final one.

Cynics say they wait to see which routes are selling the best before they decide on the final schedule. I'm not sure that is completely fair but obviously the airline is in business to maximise the returns on its investments.

There are instances at Bristol in the past where people have booked flights on the basis of the early versions of a Ryanair timetable only to find the route is then pulled completely or moved to a new time or a new day.

 

[Bigman]

So the Manchester base has materialised after all. Typical...they get Frankfurt, Oslo and Madrid..3 routes that we are crying out to operate. Lets just hope that Luftie get hacked off at the move and reconsider their position this side of the hill.

 

[lbaspotter]

Looking at the routes they ryanair have just announced from there new Manchester base it looks as though to me it wont really hurt there LBA operation. As there aren’t as many route crossover’s as I had first thought they might be. The routes that do crossover are the most popular services from LBA to Malaga, Alicante, Murcia, Dublin and Faro.

Now I don’t think LBA will be getting a Madrid or Frankfurt route in a rush from Ryanair. These are routes that they have have been tried and tested out of Manchester in the past and seemed to do well along with the likes both routes to Brussels & Bremen.

I have heard this morning that Jet2 have already started reviewing there Manchester summer 2012 operation.

 

[lbaspotter]

Ryanair have again been messing with there Winter 2011/12 scheduled.

The Lanzarote flights which were planned to be operated on Tuesdays and Saturdays have been changed. They will now be operated by LBA based aircraft on a Monday and Saturday.

The schedule now looks like this with 41 weekly return sectors. There are only 2 gaps remaining in the 2x LBA based aircraft programme's which may or may not get utilised. The Faro route remains to operated by non-based aircraft.


MONDAY
Aircraft 1:
LBA-DUB-LBA = 06:45-09:05 = FR153/152
LBA-NRN-LBA = 09:30-12:45 = FR1501/1502
--------- Spare Slot ----------------------------
LBA-DUB-LBA = 20:00-22:10 = FR157/156
Aircraft 2:
ACE-LBA-ACE = 07:15-16:15 = FR2048/2047
LBA-GDN-LBA = 17:05-22:40 = FR1503/1504
Non Based
FAO-LBA-FAO = 18:05-18:30 = FR2504/2503

TUESDAY
Aircraft 1:
LBA-DUB-LBA = 06:45-09:05 = FR153/152
LBA-KRK-LBA = 09:30-15:10 = FR2332/2333
LBA-AGP-LBA = 16:00-22:35 = FR2446/2447
Aircraft 2:
--------- Spare Slot ----------------------------
LBA-ALC-LBA = 13:45-19:35 = FR9079/9078
LBA-DUB-LBA = 20:00-22:10 = FR157/156

WEDNESDAY
Aircraft 1:
LBA-DUB-LBA = 06:45-09:05 = FR153/152
LBA-NRN-LBA = 09:30-12:45 = FR1501/1502
LBA-BCN-LBA = 13:50-19:35 = FR9297/9296
LBA-DUB-LBA = 20:00-22:10 = FR157/156
Aircraft 2:
LBA-RIX-LBA = 07:10 – 13:00 = FR2488/2489
LBA-KUN-LBA = 15:25-21:15 = FR2488/2489

THURSDAY
Aircraft 1:
LBA-KRK-LBA = 06:30-12:10 = FR2332/2333
LBA-ALC-LBA = 13:45-19:35 = FR9079/9078
LBA-DUB-LBA = 20:00-22:10 = FR157/156
Aircraft 2:
LBA-DUB-LBA = 06:45-09:05 = FR153/152
LBA-VCE-LBA = 09:30-14:35 – FR2484/2485
LBA-AGP-LBA = 15:25-22:00 = FR2446/2447

FRIDAY
Aircraft 1:
LBA-DUB-LBA = 06:45-09:05 = FR153/152
LBA-NRN-LBA = 09:30-12:45 = FR1501/1502
LBA-BCN-LBA = 13:50-19:35 = FR9297/9296
LBA-DUB-LBA = 20:00-22:10 = FR157/156
Aircraft 2:
LBA-FUE-LBA = 06:50-16:15 = FR1584/1585
LBA-GDN-LBA = 17:05-22:40 = FR1503/1504
Non Based
FAO-LBA-FAO = 18:05-18:30 = FR2504/2503

SATURDAY
Aircraft 1:
LBA-DUB-LBA = 06:45-09:05 = FR153/152
LBA-KRK-LBA = 09:30-15:10 = FR2332/2333
LBA-AGP-LBA = 16:00-22:35 = FR2446/2447
Aircraft 2:
ACE-LBA-ACE = 06:45-15:45 = FR2048/2047
LBA-ALC-LBA = 16:35-22:25 = FR9079/9078

SUNDAY
Aircraft 1:
LBA-RIX-LBA = 07:10 – 13:00 = FR2488/2489
LBA-BCN-LBA = 13:50-19:35 = FR9297/9296
LBA-DUB-LBA = 20:00-22:10 = FR157/156
Aircraft 2:
LBA-DUB-LBA = 06:45-09:05 = FR153/152
LBA-VCE-LBA = 09:30-14:35 – FR2484/2485
LBA-KUN-LBA = 15:25-21:15 = FR2488/2489

 

[User0001]

When I looked this morning, there were no Monday flights to ACE available to book. The Saturday flight is still there, but moved onto the LBA aircraft as you say, but nothing available to book on Monday

 

[User0001]

The Monday flight to ACE in the winter, appears to be back on sale again.

 

[White Heather]

Is Knock/Ireland West/Connaught on sale in the winter or not? There had been some suggestions on here that it was dropped, but the Ryanair press releases mentioned it as one of the winter routes from LBA. Can anyone clarify please?

 

[Jordan-34092]

Is Knock/Ireland West/Connaught on sale in the winter or not? There had been some suggestions on here that it was dropped, but the Ryanair press releases mentioned it as one of the winter routes from LBA. Can anyone clarify please?

Checked on Ryanair website and this is what i managed to find out about the route from LBA:

Knock - Last flight is on 29th October 2011
Recommences, Not Available (Looked all way through to july 2012, May be confirmed on a later date)




Also in case some of you don't know these are the confirmed routes from Ryanair to commence from Leeds/Bradford starting the 1st October 2011


From Leeds Bradford to

Kaunas 02 Nov 11
Riga 02 Nov 11
Venice (Treviso) 01 Oct 11


And in case your interested as well Ryanair new 1million £9.99 offer started Monday for flights in October, not particular about LBA but it will apply to LBA routes too.

[textarea]1MILLION £9.99 SEAT SALE


Fly for £9.99 on over 1,000 routes in October

Ryanair, the world’s favourite airline, announced that from midnight (24:00hrs) tonight Mon 25th July it will release 1million £9.99 seats for travel on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays in October. These “all in” low fares will be available on over 1,000 of Ryanair’s European routes but must be booked on http://www.ryanair.com before midnight (24:00hrs) Thursday 28th July.

Ryanair’s £9.99 Seat Sale includes all taxes and charges so passengers who choose to avoid discretionary fees by paying for Ryanair’s cheapest flights with MasterCard Prepaid, travel with carry on luggage only and decline our priority boarding service can book, check-in online and fly for this advertised £9.99 fare on these seat sale flights.

Ryanair’s Stephen McNamara said:

“Only Ryanair sells Europe’s lowest fares with a no fuel surcharge guarantee. In addition to our lowest fares we also deliver Europe’s No1 on-time performance across over 1,300 routes. From midnight tonight, passengers can book these £9.99 seats for travel on over 1,000 European destinations in October. These seats can only be booked until midnight (24:00hrs) Thursday (28th July) and are sure to be snapped up fast so we urge passengers to book them on http://www.ryanair.com before they sell out.”

Source:http://www.ryanair.com/en/news/1million-9-99-pounds-seat-sale[/textarea]

Ryanair, the world’s favourite airline

Had to laugh how they call them selves the world's favorite airline, i do highly doubt that.

 

[Aviador]

The scheduling of flights by Ryanair is much talked about throughout Forums4airports on various threads and it is clear that the final schedule isn't released until only weeks before the flights are due to commence. In many cases there can be several if not more changes prior to the commencement of the flights. So, I wouldn't consider the currently published winter schedule as finalised for some time yet.

 

[airforced]

Have just read on another forum - no names no pack drill - that FR are/may be pulling out of LBA. Any truth in this one anyone?

I would be surprised if that were to happen so soon after MOLs fanfare arrival but who knows.

One other thing whilst I'm asking questions. Any one any info on their load factors as many of the flights do seem to arrive into LBA disproportionately early even after taking into account their schedule padding?

 

[Aviador]

Have just read on another forum - no names no pack drill - that FR are/may be pulling out of LBA. Any truth in this one anyone?

I would be surprised if that were to happen so soon after MOLs fanfare arrival but who knows.

One other thing whilst I'm asking questions. Any one any info on their load factors as many of the flights do seem to arrive into LBA disproportionately early even after taking into account their schedule padding?

As unpredictable as Ryanair is I don't think Ryanair will be leaving LBA just yet. It's that time of year when people start saying "what if" and the rumours start flying around. If anything I would expect more from Ryanair over the next twelve months as opposed to less. Looking back at the airports that have been dropped by Ryanair, there had been various problems ranging from regional development funds to specific airport charges which were all very highly publicised prior to the withdrawal of any flights.

 

[lbaspotter]

Have just read on another forum - no names no pack drill - that FR are/may be pulling out of LBA. Any truth in this one anyone?

I would be surprised if that were to happen so soon after MOLs fanfare arrival but who knows.

One other thing whilst I'm asking questions. Any one any info on their load factors as many of the flights do seem to arrive into LBA disproportionately early even after taking into account their schedule padding?

The poster in another forum has missed understood what he had read earlier in the Knock Airport thread on that forum.

He had noticed that the Knock route is been dropped as its been confirmed on the Knock Airport Facebook page and the airports own website. But he thought the whole LBA operation was been dropped as well.

It looks like he's been corrected as well now on that forum

 

[BigMac]

Speak to someone from Ryanair on Monday, he said he'd been told 4 based aircraft next summer. He did also say you know what there like for changing their minds.

 

[tleeds]

Lets all hope..... :good:

 

[White Heather]

Yes, lets all hope it will be 5 instead!!

 

[Jordan-34092]

One thing for sure, if Ryanair did pull out off leeds, i would give it a week before Easy jet would make some sort of announcement saying they will be increasing operations at LBA.