2015, W15/16.

[Brum X]

Re: MMXV

Updated to include the great news from Emirates.

I really do feel that Emirates will announce something before the Christmas holidays, i feel it in my bones.

Do you have anymore feelings for next year?

Thomas Cook starting Orlando, Las Vegas and Cuba would be great

Not Thomas Cook but "cough cough DY" i have a good feeling that lots is being done with DY behind the scenes and after LGW, will be there next biggest base. Just saying

 

[Brum X]

Re: MMXV

Also not wanting to spoil your list and maybe dont do it until the next big announcemnt but maybe we should include those MOD flights as these do bring extra aircraft into BHX and indeed passengers and relatives using the airport facilities and you have made a suggestion that they are indeed going to continue.

 

[Ray Finkle]

Re: MMXV

I have a feeling we're going to see more from Norwegian in 2015, I really hope BHX are working hard to secure more routes and hopefully one day a base. I don't want it to sizzle out after 2015 and them never heard from again.

Also not wanting to spoil your list and maybe dont do it until the next big announcemnt but maybe we should include those MOD flights as these do bring extra aircraft into BHX and indeed passengers and relatives using the airport facilities and you have made a suggestion that they are indeed going to continue.

That's what I've heard. I'll add them :good:

 

[Ray Finkle]

Re: MMXV

So far...

American Airlines - Daily flight to JFK starting May 8th.

Air India - An increase to daily 787 flights from 21st December adding circa 1500 seats per week.

Aegean Airlines – returning next summer to ATH, still at x2 weekly but now operating from the end of March.

Aer Lingus – up to x5 daily to Dublin on some days; also talk of them opening a route to Belfast.

Air Transat – still x1 weekly but the A330 does appear to operating for a longer period.

Air France - More flights are planned to be on an A320 rather than the A319/320 mix but anything from an A319 to an A321 is used depending on loads.

Lufthansa - Permanent upgrades from an A320 to an A321.

Flybe – Cologne, Florence, Palma, Alicante, Reykjavik, Ibiza, Knock, Waterford, Porto, Toulouse, Oslo and Hamburg all dropped. Hanover dropped from 2 to 1x daily. New weekly routes to Bastia and Biarritz. Amsterdam increased to 4x daily and Jersey to 3x daily.

Hainan Airlines - Will operate twice weekly flight from Beijing throughout July and August every Monday and Friday using a 767-300ER.

Icelandair – new x2 weekly service to KEF with extra flights added at busy times.

Easyjet - Winter ski flights to Grenoble are to be on an A320 rather than the previously used A319. Geneva also sees more A320's used.

Emirates - Third daily 777-300 flight to Dubai starting 1st August.

Monarch– new winter flights to Salzburg and Turin.

Ryanair - One less based aircraft but alot more away based flights almost makes up the schedule with 2015 roughly 6 weekly flights down on 2014.

SAS - The morning flight looks to be upgraded from a CRJ to an A319 and the evening flight upgraded from an A319 to an A320, A321's are used when loads are high.

Turkish Airlines - Increase to 12x weekly from March 29th, double daily on 1,4,5,6,7.

Turkmenistan Airlines - Will be upgrading their flights from a 757 to a 777 starting early April.

Thomas Cook – new A321s will start to replace the ageing 757s over the winter; by the summer x3 A321s and x1 A320 will be based and new summer routes to Djerba, Kalamata and Lesbos launched.

Thomson – Sal resumes from the start of November and Barbados replaces Orlando for the winter season as usual. Summer sees new routes to Agadir, Djerba and Porto Santo with rises on existing routes. Cancun rises to 2x weekly for the summer and continues into the winter.

Vueling - New airline operating A320's to Barcelona starting in May then 2x weekly in June rising to 5x weekly in August. After October the winter period sees 2x weekly on Mon and Fri.

Norwegian Air Shuttle - New routes to Madrid 3x weekly, Barcelona 2x weekly and Malaga 3x weekly.

VLM - Will start Waterford 4x weekly from April.

 

[thunderchild]

Re: MMXV

Not wanting to jinx anything but from 1st Aug next year BHX could see up to x8 long haul departures in one day - if I've got the days correct Weds should see x3 Dubai, x2 New York, x1 Delhi/Amritsar, x1 Toronto and x1 Cancun. A record for BHX?

 

[Ray Finkle]

Re: MMXV

You could say nine if you include Turkmenistan, which at 6 hours isn't much shorter than Dubai or New York. It must be a record

 

[Brum X]

Re: MMXV

Not wanting to jinx anything but from 1st Aug next year BHX could see up to x8 long haul departures in one day - if I've got the days correct Weds should see x3 Dubai, x2 New York, x1 Delhi/Amritsar, x1 Toronto and x1 Cancun. A record for BHX?

What days did China Southern operate this year ?????

 

[thunderchild]

Re: MMXV

Tuesdays I recall?

 

[Ray Finkle]

Re: MMXV

Yeah it was Tuesdays.

Morning airbridge stand space is going to be at a premium next summer. As mentioned, on certain days we'll have American, United, an Air Transat A330, a TOM Dreamliner and an EK 773 all arriving between 7 and 7.30ish taking up 8 narrow body stands for around 2 hours. The night stoppers and most of the first wave of charters should be gone but with plenty more arrivals in that time the remotes will definitely come into play more.

 

[Ray Finkle]

Re: MMXV

I've updated the list to include VLM and the Turkmenistan 777's, if I've missed anything then please add it



American Airlines - Daily flight to JFK starting May 8th.

Air India - An increase to daily 787 flights from 21st December adding circa 1500 seats per week.

Aegean Airlines – returning next summer to ATH, still at x2 weekly but now operating from the end of March.

Aer Lingus – up to x5 daily to Dublin on some days; Shannon resumes June 15th.

Air Transat – still x1 weekly but the A330 does appear to operating for a longer period.

Air France - More flights are planned to be on an A320 rather than the A319/320 mix but anything from an A319 to an A321 is used depending on loads.

Lufthansa - Permanent upgrades from an A320 to an A321. Munich upgraded from E190 to A319.

Flybe – Cologne, Florence, Palma, Alicante, Reykjavik, Ibiza, Knock, Waterford, Porto, Toulouse, Oslo and Hamburg all dropped. Hanover dropped from 2 to 1x daily. New weekly routes to Bastia and Biarritz. Amsterdam increased to 4x daily and Jersey to 3x daily.

Hainan Airlines - Will operate twice weekly flights from Beijing throughout July and August every Monday and Friday using a 767-300ER.

Icelandair – new 2x weekly service to KEF with extra flights added at busy times. Now announced they will go 3x weekly in October rising to 4x weekly in Feb 2016.

Easyjet - Winter ski flights to Grenoble are to be on an A320 rather than the previously used A319. Geneva also sees more A320's used.

Emirates - Third daily 777-300 flight to Dubai starting 1st August.

Monarch– new winter flights to Salzburg and Turin.

Ryanair - One less based aircraft but alot more away based flights almost makes up the schedule with 2015 roughly 6 weekly flights down on 2014.

SAS - The morning flight looks to be upgraded from a CRJ to an A319 and the evening flight upgraded from an A319 to an A320, A321's are used when loads are high.

Turkish Airlines - Increase to 12x weekly from March 29th, double daily on 1,4,5,6,7.

Turkmenistan Airlines - Will be upgrading their flights from a 757 to a 777 starting early April.

Thomas Cook – new A321s will start to replace the ageing 757s over the winter; by the summer x3 A321s and x1 A320 will be based and new summer routes to Djerba, Kalamata and Lesbos launched.

Thomson – Sal resumes from the start of November and Barbados replaces Orlando for the winter season as usual. Summer sees new routes to Agadir, Djerba and Porto Santo with rises on existing routes. Cancun rises to 2x weekly for the summer and continues into the winter.

Vueling - New airline operating A320's to Barcelona starting in May then 2x weekly in June rising to 5x weekly in August. After October the winter period sees 2x weekly on Mon and Fri.

Norwegian Air Shuttle - New routes to Madrid 3x weekly, Barcelona 2x weekly and Malaga 3x weekly.

VLM - Will start Waterford 4x weekly from April.

 

[Brum X]

Re: MMXV

Thanks for the update Ray. I wonder what will be on your next update ????????


Whats your guess ????

 

[Ray Finkle]

Re: MMXV

I'd really like to see Qatar. I don't think it would be an exaggeration to say that Emirates have been the best thing to ever happen to BHX but if they are to leave the 10mppa marker behind and push towards 11 or even 12 then airlines like QR will be needed.

Do people think Vueling may add something for winter or just stick with BCN? It would be nice to see more routes from them in 2016.

One area where BHX are very weak is the long haul leisure market, Orlando is desperate, in fact we'll have more weekly departures to Beijing than Florida in July and August :crazy: Dominican Republic is also missed and I'd like to see Cuba, Las Vegas and Vancouver added along with more capacity to Toronto. Mr Kehoe highlighted this in his recent interview so hopefully some wheels are in motion.

As for rumours I've heard a return of Air Blue mentioned but I don't think that will be anytime soon and they'll most likely start MAN first. Apparently BHX are meeting with Air Asia at the routes conference but I'll be genuinely astounded if anything comes of it.

Who knows what'll happen though, this is BHX and anything could happen, it's why we love it so much

 

[Ray Finkle]

Re: MMXV

Updated.

American Airlines - Daily flight to JFK starting May 8th.

Air India - An increase to daily 787 flights from 21st December adding circa 1500 seats per week.

Aegean Airlines – returning next summer to ATH, still at x2 weekly but now operating from the end of March.

Aer Lingus – up to x5 daily to Dublin on some days; Shannon resumes June 15th.

Air Transat – still x1 weekly but the A330 does appear to operating for a longer period.

Air France - More flights are planned to be on an A320 rather than the A319/320 mix but anything from an A319 to an A321 is used depending on loads.

Lufthansa - Permanent upgrades from an A320 to an A321. Munich upgraded from E190 to A319.

Flybe – Cologne, Florence, Palma, Alicante, Reykjavik, Ibiza, Knock, Waterford, Porto, Toulouse, Oslo and Hamburg all dropped. Hanover dropped from 2 to 1x daily. New weekly routes to Bastia and Biarritz. Amsterdam increased to 4x daily and Jersey to 3x daily.

Hainan Airlines - Will operate twice weekly flights from Beijing throughout July and August every Monday and Friday using a 767-300ER.

Icelandair – new 2x weekly service to KEF with extra flights added at busy times. Now announced they will go 3x weekly in October rising to 4x weekly in Feb 2016.

Easyjet - Winter ski flights to Grenoble are to be on an A320 rather than the previously used A319. Geneva also sees more A320's used.

Emirates - Third daily 777-300 flight to Dubai starting 1st August.

Monarch– new winter flights to Salzburg and Turin. Winter increases to GIB, BCN, PMI, ACE, AGP, ALC, FAO, FCO, FNC, FUE, GNB, LCA, LPA, SSH, TFS, VCE, SZG and TRN.

Ryanair - One less based aircraft but alot more away based flights almost makes up the schedule with 2015 roughly 6 weekly flights down on 2014. Winter increases to BCN and AGP.

SAS - The morning flight looks to be upgraded from a CRJ to an A319 and the evening flight upgraded from an A319 to an A320, A321's are used when loads are high.

Turkish Airlines - Increase to 12x weekly from March 29th, double daily on 1,4,5,6,7.

Turkmenistan Airlines - Will be upgrading their flights from a 757 to a 777 starting early April.

Thomas Cook – new A321s will start to replace the ageing 757s over the winter; by the summer x3 A321s and x1 A320 will be based and new summer routes to Djerba, Kalamata and Lesbos launched.

Thomson – Sal resumes from the start of November and Barbados replaces Orlando for the winter season as usual. Summer sees new routes to Agadir, Djerba and Porto Santo with rises on existing routes. Cancun rises to 2x weekly for the summer and continues into the winter.

Vueling - New airline operating A320's to Barcelona starting in May then 2x weekly in June rising to 5x weekly in August. After October the winter period sees 2x weekly on Mon and Fri.

Wizzair - New airline starting Budapest and Warsaw in September. Both are 2x weekly using A320 aircraft.

Norwegian Air Shuttle - New routes to Madrid 3x weekly, Barcelona 2x weekly and Malaga 3x weekly. New routes to Tenerife 2x weekly and Gran Canaria weekly for W15/16.

VLM - Will start Waterford 4x weekly from April.

 

[Ray Finkle]

Re: Winter 15/16

Rather than start a new thread.

American Airlines - Will reduce to 5x weekly at the end of October until Dec 18th when it returns to daily.

Emirates - This will be the first winter of 3x daily. Jan 1st sees EK41/42 revert to a higher density 2 class 777-300ER.

Icelandair - Will see 4x flights for the October half term then will be 3x weekly until Jan 1st. Feb 1st sees a permanent 4x weekly schedule.

Easyjet - Belfast up to 3x daily with only Tuesday at 2x daily.

Germania - Will operate a weekly ski flight to Chambery.

Turkish Airlines - Will be 12x weekly throughout the winter.

Vueling - Barcelona continues throughout the winter at 2x weekly Mon and Fri. It returns to 4x weekly, Mon, Wed, Fri and Sun as of April.

Aer Lingus - At 6x weekly Shannon will be down on the 14x weekly service last year. Dublin up to 6x daily.

Flybe - Lots of route cuts at the end of winter 14/15 so this winter will be well down.

Wizzair - New airline starting Budapest, Tuesdays and Saturdays, and Warsaw, Mondays and Fridays in September. Both are 2x weekly using A320 aircraft.

Norwegian Air Shuttle - New routes to Tenerife 2x weekly Mon and Fri and Gran Canaria weekly on Fridays. Madrid, Barcelona and Malaga continue through the winter with Malaga 2x weekly Mon and Fri, Barcelona 2x weekly Thur and Sun and Madrid 2x weekly Wed and Sat.

Monarch Airlines - Increases on GIB, BCN, PMI, ACE, AGP, ALC, FAO, FCO, FNC, FUE, GNB, LCA, LPA, SSH, TFS, VCE, SZG and TRN. Many extra flights added in the Christmas and Feb school holidays.

Ryanair - Increases to Barcelona and Malaga up to 6x weekly. Dublin increased to 6x daily.

Have I missed anything?

 

[andyc941]

Re: MMXV

Hi Ray BHX looking really healthy for summer,winter 2015. :good:

 

[Ray Finkle]

Re: MMXV and W15/16.

Hi mate, I don't like to 'speak too soon' when it comes to BHX as good news is often followed by bad news but at the moment it seems as if a good 2015 will be carrying on into the winter

 

[Ray Finkle]

Re: MMXV and W15/16.

Looking at the BHX Wiki page and next to Germania Chambery is listed alongside Ibiza. It looks to be for Inghams in place of the usual Saturday Flybe flight.

 

[Ray Finkle]

Re: Winter 15/16

Updated

American Airlines - Will reduce to 5x weekly at the end of October until Dec 18th when it returns to daily.

Emirates - This will be the first winter of 3x daily. Jan 1st sees EK41/42 revert to a higher density 2 class 777-300ER.

Icelandair - Will see 4x flights for the October half term then will be 3x weekly until Jan 1st. Feb 1st sees a permanent 4x weekly schedule.

Easyjet - Belfast up to 3x daily with only Tuesday at 2x daily.

Germania - Will operate a weekly ski flight to Chambery.

Turkish Airlines - Will be 12x weekly throughout the winter.

Vueling - Barcelona continues throughout the winter at 2x weekly Mon and Fri. It returns to 4x weekly, Mon, Wed, Fri and Sun as of April.

Aer Lingus - At 6x weekly Shannon will be down on the 14x weekly service last year. Dublin up to 6x daily.

Flybe - Increases to Amsterdam 4/5x daily up to 6x daily, Dusseldorf 4x daily up to 5x daily, Edinburgh 7x daily up to 8x daily and Glasgow 7x daily up to 8x daily. New ski flights to Chambery and Geneva on Saturdays.

Norwegian Air Shuttle - New routes to Tenerife 2x weekly Mon and Fri and Gran Canaria weekly on Fridays. Madrid, Barcelona and Malaga continue through the winter with Malaga 2x weekly Mon and Fri, Barcelona 2x weekly Thur and Sun and Madrid 2x weekly Wed and Sat.

Monarch Airlines - Increases on GIB, BCN, PMI, ACE, AGP, ALC, FAO, FCO, FNC, FUE, GNB, LCA, LPA, SSH, TFS, VCE, SZG and TRN. Many extra flights added in the Christmas and Feb school holidays.

Ryanair - Increases to Barcelona and Malaga up to 6x weekly. Dublin increased to 6x daily.

Thomson - New Saturday flight to Verona.

Wizzair - New airline starting Budapest, Tuesdays and Saturdays, and Warsaw, Mondays and Fridays in September. Both are 2x weekly using A320 aircraft.

Waterford still isn't bookable past Oct 23rd but it's still a fairly new route so they may be waiting to see how it performs.

 

[nwoody2001]

Re: MMXV and W15/16.

Seems like there are an awful lot of increases here... do we think we have done enough to counteract Flybes blood-bath of 14/15 to go for good growth this winter?

 

[Ray Finkle]

Re: MMXV and W15/16.

I think Flybe are around 5 or so daily flights down on last winter but that could have been much worse.

Great increases on AMS, EDI and GLA. DUS going up to five daily could be counteracted by a Germawings reduction. At the moment Germanwings are still showing 3x daily but as the CRJ's are transferred out that leaves an A319 for BHX which I couldn't see at such a high frequency.

Milan drops to daily (can anyone remember if it was daily or double daily last winter?) and Hanover will be down on last year when it was 2x daily. Milan is on the 195 though which is also doing the first and last AMS.

Bordeaux looks to be joining the already extensive unserved from BHX destinations list, unless it's going to be summer only. I thought it operated last winter but I may be wrong?

Concerning Flybe it could have been better but could have been a hell of a lot worse.

Overall though I think we'll see growth. Ten flights from Norwegian, an extra daily 773 from Emirates, two extra Turkish flights, American, Icelandair and Vueling were not here last winter. Increases from Monarch, Ryanair, Aer Lingus, Thomson and Easyjet.

There is still Waterford to be confirmed and there was some doubt as to whether Air India will maintain a daily schedule but hopefully Mr K has done his job. We also have yet to hear news about this new Middle East/African operator they were close to doing a deal with.

Glass half full I'd say, for now anyway :good: