Monarch Airlines

[Brummiegem]

Hmmm,interesting!!

 

[User001]

I would put too much emphasis on social media, they have clauses which dictate what they can and can't say.

When KLM served LPL last, someone asked if flights were being pulled.

The reply from Facebook was 'no, absolutely not'. 12 hours later, yes, just 12 hours later, the official announcement came that LPL-AMS was being pulled.

I'm not saying Monarch are done, I'm just saying that a statement on social media means very, very little in these circumstances.

 

[nwoody2001]

I would put too much emphasis on social media, they have clauses which dictate what they can and can't say.

When KLM served LPL last, someone asked if flights were being pulled.

The reply from Facebook was 'no, absolutely not'. 12 hours later, yes, just 12 hours later, the official announcement came that LPL-AMS was being pulled.

I'm not saying Monarch are done, I'm just saying that a statement on social media means very, very little in these circumstances.

You are comparing apples and pears there user. The opposite applies I'm afraid.

Pulling a route is one thing. The carrier can still fulfill their contract to transport customer from point A to B in a meaningful way by transporting them to another airport they serve nearby or offering a refund!

If bankruptcy is applied for (which would have to be the case for the CAA to be involved) the contract can not be fulfilled. they are bound by law not to deceive or deny. It is their right not to comment but that's about it!

 

[User001]

If only it were all that simple Woody.

Excel didn't notify pax or confirm when rumours surfaces Globespan didn't, Low cost holidays didn't, so on.

I'm sorry but my statement isn't apples and oranges at all. When it comes to social media, the agents will have a set script until the official notifications come through, admin teams for airlines normally called in for midnight.

Other than that, why else do you suppose there are now 5 aircraft on stand by ready to start ops tomorrow as per CAA request? Not doing it because they have nothing better to do are they?

May not be monarch, but someone's about to have issues, it's just a question of who.

 

[Ray Finkle]

I see the press have now got hold of the rumours. Not great for Monarch if they aren't true.

http://www.independent.co.uk/travel...going-bust-amid-passenger-fears-a7329461.html

 

[rutamkrd]

You are comparing apples and pears there user. The opposite applies I'm afraid.

Pulling a route is one thing. The carrier can still fulfill their contract to transport customer from point A to B in a meaningful way by transporting them to another airport they serve nearby or offering a refund!

If bankruptcy is applied for (which would have to be the case for the CAA to be involved) the contract can not be fulfilled. they are bound by law not to deceive or deny. It is their right not to comment but that's about it!

 

[nwoody2001]

User, I would appreciate you take the time to read my posts as I do yours before lashing out.

A) I didn't say at any point an airline was obliged to notify pax of bankruptcy, they aren't. That is the job of the administrating council. I simply said they werent allowed to deceive or defraud pax in the event bankruptcy has been filed! And;

B) I have made explicitly clear my guess as to why the CAA have aircraft on standby to cover such Spanish flights posted on this forum/thread within the last hour.

If you are willing to take the time to post such comments, it would serve you well to read posts prior to making such condescending comments!

Regards!

 

[richard winterbourn]

Like everyone else, i just don't know. But reading comments attributed to Monarch itself i get the impression that while they say it is nothing to do with them, they DO know what is going on. It is a pity that they have not been more illuminating and explaining what is happening. The airline industry is fragile and the sooner speculation is spiked the better

 

[ronnoc1k8]

Well that's that then, it wasn't very believable in the first place, since they recently had just announced new flights.

 

[rutamkrd]

A company is obligated to trade up until the following are activated at the SAME time for a PLC a statement to the city and appointment of the receivers. This typically happens about 7.30 UK time for many GB businesses.

The elephant in the room here in Grey Bull they may be about to pull the plug - they have been looking for a buyer for some time and they want their money for their next venture "steel"

Grey Bull may have given the CAA early warning

 

[Ray Finkle]

An Omni 763 just arrived in Naples.

If it's for Monarch then we've gone past only Spain

 

[User001]

Woody, seems we are mixed up on something so I'll just leave it there. All I was saying is that I wouldn't trust any social media response as far as I could throw it in situations like this, that's all I was saying.

Now, I can't speculate about BHX flights I know this is the BHX thread but just citing an example, this cannot be a coincidence:

Air Transat flight tomorrow:
TS654P MAN-AGP (ZB654 is MAN-AGP)
TS655 AGP 2015 MAN 2225 (just so happens ZB655 has these exact timings)

Somethings up.

 

[thunderchild]

An Omni 777 running BCN-LGW tomorrow too apparantly. Would a tour operator be selling seats to BCN?

 

[rutamkrd]

Just a quick heads up right now Monarch has just three scheduled departures from the UK left today to Ibiza from Manchester/Gatwick and Birmingham. If these leave on time and back over night by 7.30am ALL the fleet should back in the UK real tragedy emerging if true.

 

[jfy1999]

A manager at Monarch has been among those posting on social media denying the rumour.

Latest rumour, from within Monarch itself, is that these flights are related to the handling agent Aviator going bust, which could explain the parking of aircraft on remote stands tonight.

Surely this isn't the whole story though?

Knife-edge stuff

 

[58terminus]

The airports receiving these CAA flights must surely have questioned what they were about
when asked to receive them.B747 flights from Spanish resorts are hardly common at Birmingham.
Would they then allow a situation where hundreds of passengers start turning up from 4am at their airports if they knew there would be no flights for them?

 

[Jerry]

If that is true then that is sad news. If they've been trying to sell it then how come they've failed? Surely to an airline group or investors then Monarch is valuable and why go through the process of ordering all those 737 MAX's! Because surely they knew they would have to pay the bond!

 

[Jon Dempsey]

Booked 4 legs with Monarch over the weekend. Hopefully, the ATOL is still in place.

 

[David_itl]

Any value in Monarch could be the slots they have, particularly at LGW. And may be worth stating that Swissport handle Monarch at MAN so think we can ignore it being about Aviator going insolvent as why would UA 747s be slated fly to MAN?

 

[Ray Finkle]

A Miami Air International 738 is currently en route to LPA from Gander. Maybe it's related maybe it isn't.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n733ma