Aer Lingus

[Liverpoola380]

Do we think Aer Lingus UK will ever expand their route network from Manchester? I am suprised we dont see more North America destinations or Cancun for example.

 

[mullion]

Until America sorts its self out very doubtful as I have no inclination to go stateside with costs etc

 

[Silvercity]

No inclination to go while Trump is in power too.

 

[Jerry]

Aer Lingus Regional to go 4 daily flights on Belfast City for winter 2025.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1927816939704857075

 

[Jerry]

Manchester cabin crew to strike between 30/10/25 and 2/11/25

Aer Lingus faces another strike – this time by Manchester cabin crew

Unite union says tax-free allowance of £97 for dinner, breakfast and incidentals is not enough

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Liverpoola380]

Aer Lingus operated EI-DUZ A333 DUB-MAN MAN-DUB on 31st October

I presume to cover some of the EIUK flights.

 

[mullion]

That was probably the least interesting aircraft as there were 2 A321XLR EI-XLU and W plus A330 EI-GAJ plus a couple of A320 and A321s

 

[Jerry]

“The base is performing lower than elsewhere in Aer Lingus, and Aer Lingus is performing lower than elsewhere in IAG, so it’s not performing at a level that makes it attractive for investment,” she told The Irish Times."
Doesn't sound positive. Interesting comparative in pay between the Irish bases and Manchester base.
"Irish crew’s basic salaries start at €29,833.26 a year while their UK counterparts start at £17,640.25 (€20,020). Unite said Irish staff get $171 a night for all US destinations while UK crew receive $111 for Orlando and $115 for New York."

Aer Lingus CEO says Manchester base is underperforming as cabin crew plan more strikes

Transatlantic hub ‘not performing at a level that makes it attractive for investment’, chief executive Lynne Embleton says

www.irishtimes.com

 

[gulftraveller]

Not so long ago she was saying the exact opposite about the MAN routes. L/Fs remain good. Sounds to me as though she is issuing a warning for EI UK staff to desist. If they do leave, the capacity will be quickly taken up by another carrier, no doubt.

 

[Scottie Dog]

I noticed that the article aldo says that EUK fly Manchester to Boston.

 

[Jerry]

Not so long ago she was saying the exact opposite about the MAN routes. L/Fs remain good. Sounds to me as though she is issuing a warning for EI UK staff to desist. If they do leave, the capacity will be quickly taken up by another carrier, no doubt.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was a negotiation tactic.

 

[IanFarquharson]

I have always said that they will go back to DUB at some point as there are more US desitations they can stArt from DUB and EIUK will not exist.

Shame if it happens

 

[Jerry]

I have always said that they will go back to DUB at some point as there are more US desitations they can stArt from DUB and EIUK will not exist.

Shame if it happens

Not so much with an A330 though. If you look at a lot of the destinations they are launching from Dublin they are secondary cities and have been launched with the A321LR not so much the A330. Manchester routes are more suitable for the A330s rather than the A321LR.

 

[Statto]

Not so long ago she was saying the exact opposite about the MAN routes. L/Fs remain good. Sounds to me as though she is issuing a warning for EI UK staff to desist. If they do leave, the capacity will be quickly taken up by another carrier, no doubt.

As a separate UK company, Aer Lingus UK files an annual report at companies house so its all there warts and all really. It looks to me like they make about £12 profit per passenger, which does seem to be well below IAG overall and the Aer Lingus group within IAG (all of which is available in the IAG annual report). So to be fair, it seems a fair statement. Long-haul leisure with most of the demand emanating from the uk end is a tough business as plenty of others have proved.

 

[mullion]

With a fleet of 2 aircraft doesn`t sound to bad

 

[ian_h]

As a separate UK company, Aer Lingus UK files an annual report at companies house so its all there warts and all really. It looks to me like they make about £12 profit per passenger, which does seem to be well below IAG overall and the Aer Lingus group within IAG (all of which is available in the IAG annual report). So to be fair, it seems a fair statement. Long-haul leisure with most of the demand emanating from the uk end is a tough business as plenty of others have proved.

But with a bit of effort they could be doing MUCH better.

Where is the codeshare with Loganair to feed the routes, why aren't they on dohop to get feed from easyJet, Jet2, Ryanair and others.

And lets not even start on the OW family that should be at the party

 

[David_itl]

and n those reports you can see there was an intergroup transfer of €11 million, up from around €5 million. it begs the question of whether they are deliberately trying to minimize the MAN base profits without affecting the overall group profit,

 

[Statto]

Not really. The report clearly explains this is payment for services provided by the group under an agreed transfer price agreement. These agreements are put in place (and externally audited) precisely to stop the practice of artificially inflating losses in one part of a group in order to avoid tax.

 

[Jerry]

Serious threat or negotiating tactic?

Aer Lingus warns it may close Manchester base

Aer Lingus could close its base in Manchester as it struggles to make it profitable, it has warned staff there today.

m.independent.ie

 

[gulftraveller]

Looks like a threat tactic. If (suddenly) it has gone from higher yields than parallel routes in Dublin to being unprofitable with high L/Fs, it is the airline’s fault. Anyway, One World would doubtless replace them, in whatever form.