Route Development & Rumours

[IanFarquharson]

Definitely not Cathay, Singapore or Etihad. Hans or Qatar most likely.

If Hans or Qatar then cant really say 'another airline'

 

[HPsauce]

If Hans or Qatar then cant really say 'another airline'

Exactly what i thought too!. A new long haul carrier is strongly rumoured, starting in the spring. Fingers crossed then!.

 

[Paulsstrange]

Exactly what i thought too!. A new long haul carrier is strongly rumoured, starting in the spring. Fingers crossed then!.

Ive not heard such rumours until today any clues ?

 

[Scania1800]

Hans is probably the one, however it could be Qatar too.
There are big rumours about Vistara coming to Birmingham too.

 

[Kevin Farnell]

Aren't Vistara being merged into Air India?

 

[Llandudno]

If this carrier does start as per the slot request, maybe an ‘Arabian’ nights theme is in order. Should be able to decipher from that clue.

 

[Coathanger16]

There are big rumours about Vistara coming to Birmingham too.

As Kevin highlighted they are being merged with Air India and currently only have 3 B787s in their fleet which are fully utilised serving London, Frankfurt and Paris. They only fly long haul from Delhi, so I can't see them launching in addition to Air India or even replacing Air India, and I'd be very surprised if their first long haul flight from somewhere in India that isn't Delhi would be to Birmingham.

As others have mentioned, it's likely just Qatar returning or Hans officially launching flights.

My different guess would be a Saudi Arabian airline. The Saudi government are trying to switch the countries economy from oil to tourism and are targeting 100 million visitors a year by 2030. The government are also setting up a new airline, RIA, aimed at competing with the ME3 in setting up a new hub at Riyadh. So my guess would be the new RIA, Saudia, or one of the Saudi LCCs.

 

[Kevin Farnell]

The big problem with Saudi Arabian airlines, is that they are 'dry'. If I'm going to take a flight of several hours, then I want a nice glass of red wine (or two) with my meal.

 

[HPsauce]

We already know about Qatar and Hans Airways. This sounds like a completely new carrier for BHX.
Do we know whether they are Asian, Middle Eastern or North American?.

 

[Scania1800]

The big problem with Saudi Arabian airlines, is that they are 'dry'. If I'm going to take a flight of several hours, then I want a nice glass of red wine (or two) with my meal.

That's because of Saudi Arabias strict laws and etc. If Saudi Arabians airlines do come it would be great again for people to connect onwards to East asia

 

[IanFarquharson]

Saudi would be a great addition to our portfolio of airlines

Nick Barton said we could get back to pre pandemic levels in 2023 which wont be easy with 2022 landing around 9.5m, so a 35% increase would be needed in 2023 !!

 

[Coathanger16]

Nick Barton said we could get back to pre pandemic levels in 2023 which wont be easy with 2022 landing around 9.5m, so a 35% increase would be needed in 2023 !!

I think we're likely to see our first "month" get back to pre pandemic levels next year, maybe even several months over the summer period.

Whether we'll get the entire 12 months back to 2019 levels we'll have to wait and see. Take out the number of Flybe and Thomas Cook passengers from 2019 levels and I think we'll probably hit that next year, which suggests we'll have recovered from the pandemic, but not yet the loss of Flybe & Thomas Cook.

Whatever passenger levels we see next year, I think BHX is in a fairly good position. We have new airlines expanding, old airlines coming back and long established airlines expanding.

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

You gotta remember .Qatar ,Turkish,Emirates and air India plus PIA are all long haul.I think it will an American airline company from jfk.If u listened to Toms screens interview about routes from bhx earlier in the year he mentions they’re negotiating with an American airline.They also we’re planning to bring an Icelandic airline which will be play.

 

[Scania1800]

You gotta remember .Qatar ,Turkish,Emirates and air India plus PIA are all long haul.I think it will an American airline company from jfk.If u listened to Toms screens interview about routes from bhx earlier in the year he mentions they’re negotiating with an American airline.They also we’re planning to bring an Icelandic airline which will be play.

Qatar is returning along with Emirates bringing back the A380s. Turkmenistan I've heard they were coming but that seem to have died down.

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

So we know that Qatar and emirates are usual suspects to the airport.Plus you’ve got tui who long haul aswell plus.
Long haul routes at the moment.
Delhi
Dubai
Amritsar
Espargos
Boa Vista
Cancun
Bridgetown
Melbourne Orlando
Islamabad
Punta cana
Montego Bay

Plus we could have in 2023:
Doha
Mumbai
New York
Toronto

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We don’t know when.We can speculate rumours but we don’t know when it will proceed

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Personally I would look west at southern American and northern American cities

Vardervo
JFK
Toronto
Seattle
Detroit
Boston
Washington

 

[IanFarquharson]

Very little chance of any US services in 2023

 

[gulftraveller]

If it's not Qatar or Hans I would go with Wizzair Abu Dhabi or Air Arabia to AUH

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

Feel wizz air have done poor from certain airports in the uk especially us
Aberdeen
Edinburgh
Bristol
Birmingham
Belfast.

Only 3 that gets loads
Cardiff
Gatwick
Luton

 

[A400]

Feel wizz air have done poor from certain airports in the uk especially us
Aberdeen
Edinburgh
Bristol
Birmingham
Belfast.

Only 3 that gets loads
Cardiff
Gatwick
Luton

Can you elaborate on that? I’m not understanding what you mean by Wizz are doing poor from certain airports. Do you mean adding new routes? Load factors?

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

Yeah so what I meant is that we only do routes from Birmingham.
Bucharest
Gdnask
Warsaw
Cluj napoca
Budapest
Wroclaw
Craiova
Krakow

All them routes from 3 countries Poland ,Hungary and Romania,

Why can’t we expand more further Northern Europe like Germany and latvia
Or Estonia or Cyprus