Birmingham: Route Development & Rumours

[TM3]

If you look at the organised activities you get sold in Birmingham on the likes or Expedia, Get Your Guide or Viator you can why it's difficult to promote stuff outside London on blogs etc as there are very few local experiences being sold there.

For example I can buy a trip to Bicester Village, the Cotswolds or London when we have our own home grown attractions that aren't listed.

It would be good to see trips being sold to the likes of the Black Country Museum, McArthur Glen and Shugborough.

I can get a trip to Stratford upon Avon but I can't find the Shakespeare Express on there which I think American tourists would love.

 

[jfy1999]

Rather have a US airline, as that means Americans coming over here driving demand than British going over there. City needs the presence that Edinburgh / Scotland certainly does at the moment!

Come on Tom and Tom, drum up some business please.

On that basis alone, it makes sense for a UK based airline. Birmingham is never going to be a destination for inbound tourism, and business travel generally is lower since covid. a USA Route that focuses on outbound traffic would likely be much more successful and viable ion my opinion.

Having a US carrier flying at times that suit US tourists for a city that US tourist have little interest in visiting...?

I don’t think the choices of either a US or UK carrier are necessarily opposed to each other. It depends on multiple factors, like which destinations are chosen and whether there’s a codeshare agreement in place.

It might be difficult for us to sustain an airline like JetBlue which doesn’t codeshare much, if at all, and is also very little known in the UK. But on the other hand I think the Virgin / Delta partnership has a realistic chance of making more UK regional flights work if LHR remains full. Some routes are of course going to be largely skewed towards either US or UK travellers, but it helps to have the same flights bookable on both a UK and a US airline’s websites. They also have a wider range of aircraft and onboard products to meet different levels of demand.

A quick search on google flights shows that from MAN and EDI the departure times for the American carriers and the uk carriers don’t differ that much, they both tend to have their departures from the UK between mid-morning and lunchtime and departures from the USA in the early evening. This is despite MAN being mostly served by UK / Irish carriers and EDI being mostly served by US carriers.

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

So with summer on the way and winter is far away but readying it’s self for preparation.Here are the New routes that start this winter
Jet2
Marrakesh 2 weekly
Agadir 2 weekly

EasyJet
Marrakesh 2 weekly
Reykjavik 2 weekly
Krakow 2 weekly
Prague 2 weekly
Innsbruck 1 weekly

Ryanair
Łódź 2 weekly
Treviso Venice 2 weekly
Plovdiv 1 weekly

Tui
la romana 1 weekly


Gdnask winter seasonal 29th November -23rd December at 2 weekly
Total Weekly flights: 19 weekly
228 flights during winter months

Hope we get more routes get announced like Rzeszow and Wroclaw would be good ideas.Maybe a Helsinki trip would be good

 

[BHX492]

So with summer on the way and winter is far away but readying it’s self for preparation.Here are the New routes that start this winter
Jet2
Marrakesh 2 weekly
Agadir 2 weekly

EasyJet
Marrakesh 2 weekly
Reykjavik 2 weekly
Krakow 2 weekly
Prague 2 weekly
Innsbruck 1 weekly

Ryanair
Łódź 2 weekly
Treviso Venice 2 weekly
Plovdiv 1 weekly

Tui
la romana 1 weekly


Gdnask winter seasonal 29th November -23rd December at 2 weekly
Total Weekly flights: 19 weekly
228 flights during winter months

Hope we get more routes get announced like Rzeszow and Wroclaw would be good ideas.Maybe a Helsinki trip would be good

Unfortunately Rzeszow and Wroclaw will likely not happen this winter with Ryanair, me and few friends from Ryanair and Easyjet went on holiday and we were talking about the new routes and the reason given was additional A/C coming for summer 25 so they trying to keep hours down.

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

Unfortunately Rzeszow and Wroclaw will likely not happen this winter with Ryanair, me and few friends from Ryanair and Easyjet went on holiday and we were talking about the new routes and the reason given was additional A/C coming for summer 25 so they trying to keep hours down.

So not much happening except those routes?

 

[BHX492]

So not much happening except those routes?

Still time for them to change their mind but probably not also both Santander and Girona go Summer Seasonal

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

Still time for them to change their mind but probably not also both Santander and Girona go Summer Seasonal

What’s happening with the small rumour about Cathay Pacific and Finnair as they were in negotiations with the airport?

 

[Paulsstrange]

Unfortunately Rzeszow and Wroclaw will likely not happen this winter with Ryanair, me and few friends from Ryanair and Easyjet went on holiday and we were talking about the new routes and the reason given was additional A/C coming for summer 25 so they trying to keep hours down.

Interesting thanks, is this Easyjet or Ryanair extra based unit(s) s25 or both ? Cheers ,

 

[BHX492]

Interesting thanks, is this Easyjet or Ryanair extra based unit(s) s25 or both ? Cheers ,

Both but also Fly4 but unconfirmed if replacing an tui or additional

 

[Paulsstrange]

Both but also Fly4 but unconfirmed if replacing an tui or additional

Nice many thanks, BHX certainly looking to add numbers and claw back lost share i guess. Think Tui has been set up for 12 based s25 for a while.

 

[BHX492]

Nice many thanks, BHX certainly looking to add numbers and claw back lost share i guess. Think Tui has been set up for 12 based s25 for a while.

Definitely looking that way. Eighth based unit for Ryanair is confirmed but there talks of a ninth unit being added, Easyjet an fourth unit, its current operations here is equivalent to 7 a/c my worry is space for stands for all the extra units planned

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

If you @BHX492 don’t mind these are my predictions for new routes next summer

Tui
La Palma 2 weekly
Marsa Alam 2 weekly
Banjul 2 Weekly

Ryanair
Thessaloniki 2 weekly
Funchal 2 weekly
Belfast 2 weekly
Vienna 3 weekly
Zagreb 2 weekly
Kaunas 2 weekly
Naples 3 weekly

easyJet
Gibraltar 2 weekly
Mykonos 2 weekly
Paphos 2 weekly
Izmir 1 weekly
Bodrum 2 weekly

 

[Paulsstrange]

Definitely looking that way. Eighth based unit for Ryanair is confirmed but there talks of a ninth unit being added, Easyjet an fourth unit, its current operations here is equivalent to 7 a/c my worry is space for stands for all the extra units planned

My word ok interesting. I did anticipate Easyjet going to 5 based, however perhaps they prefer a larger away based operation at bhx ......

 

[Matt995]

If you @BHX492 don’t mind these are my predictions for new routes next summer

Tui
La Palma 2 weekly
Marsa Alam 2 weekly
Banjul 2 Weekly

TUI have already published their summer 2025, so will be no new destinations, Banjul is operated during the winter period.

 

[BHX492]

My word ok interesting. I did anticipate Easyjet going to 5 based, however perhaps they prefer a larger away based operation at bhx ......

It is their aim to get to 5 based soon as possible so i wouldn’t worry about it.

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

TUI have already published their summer 2025, so will be no new destinations, Banjul is operated during the winter period.

Well it was prediction which I was presuming of a different reaction

 

[BHX492]

If you @BHX492 don’t mind these are my predictions for new routes next summer

Ryanair
Thessaloniki 2 weekly
Funchal 2 weekly
Belfast 2 weekly
Vienna 3 weekly
Zagreb 2 weekly
Kaunas 2 weekly
Naples 3 weekly

easyJet
Gibraltar 2 weekly
Mykonos 2 weekly
Paphos 2 weekly
Izmir 1 weekly
Bodrum 2 weekly

Can’t see Funchal for Ryanair as its captain only landing but the floating pilots are all trained for it so could be possible. I’ll say probably polish and maybe extra frequencies to PFO,CHQ etc

EasyJet probably more likely beach destinations but I can see where you coming from.

 

[Karl C]

If you @BHX492 don’t mind these are my predictions for new routes next summer

Tui
La Palma 2 weekly
Marsa Alam 2 weekly
Banjul 2 Weekly

Ryanair
Thessaloniki 2 weekly
Funchal 2 weekly
Belfast 2 weekly
Vienna 3 weekly
Zagreb 2 weekly
Kaunas 2 weekly
Naples 3 weekly

easyJet
Gibraltar 2 weekly
Mykonos 2 weekly
Paphos 2 weekly
Izmir 1 weekly
Bodrum 2 weekly

Maybe tweak that a bit Ant....La Palma would be 1 X weekly,

Can’t see Funchal for Ryanair as its captain only landing but the floating pilots are all trained for it so could be possible. I’ll say probably polish and maybe extra frequencies to PFO,CHQ etc

EasyJet probably more likely beach destinations but I can see where you coming from.

Also swap the easyJet Mykonos for Santorini

 

[Paulsstrange]

It is their aim to get to 5 based soon as possible so i wouldn’t worry about it.

Nice to hear, so would you anticipate 5 based s25 or still unsure with only 4th committed ? Cheers

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

To be honest with you I can see Pegasus Adding Antalya next summer if their is demand