Route Development & Rumours

[Silvercity]

Do you honestly think anyone (unlikely) on this forum who might know would spill the beans possibly jeopardising negotiations?

Absolutely. I know someone v well with Liverpool Airport management. Even though im on friendly terms he wouldn't tell me about negotiations and I wouldn't expect him to.

 

[David_itl]

the biggest surprise is when airlines start dropping hints about routes or just a destination in the media e.g.. Delta and Birmingham. A greater surprise is when it's an airport namedropping in articles e.g. MAN recently noting American, United and Virgin.

 

[Karl C]

Saudia load factor for today 32%.
Just 94 out of 298 seats occupied

Emirates load factor was 69%
424 out of 614 seats occupied

With access to pax loads, why don't you post the loads that are high too?

 

[IanFarquharson]

Saudi was 100% full outbound and has been all week !

 

[IanFarquharson]

Never disclosue your source !

 

[Karl C]

Right okay, well the figures I've seen today weren't full, so not sure on the accuracy of your 'source'

Ian has been producing pax loads for years.....I'm sure his source is sound!

 

[Ray Finkle]

Ian has been producing pax loads for years.....I'm sure his source is sound!

Ian's source is definitely sound

 

[thunderchild]

Right okay, well the figures I've seen today weren't full, so not sure on the accuracy of your 'source'

But because your ‘source’ paints a negative picture it must be accurate?

 

[IanFarquharson]

You figures are correct inbound and mine are correct outbound.

 

[Scottie Dog]

I'm so pleased to hear that you can now both relax.

 

[RichL]

This gave me a little chuckle this morning, thank you Scottie Dog.

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

I know bhx is a low cost airport and I know there’s a lot of demand in North Africa so what are the chances of Nouvelair,Air Cairo and RAM in the next few years.

Be nice to get sun express to operate Bodrum cause I know that the route is proving very popular

 

[IanFarquharson]

I know bhx is a low cost airport and I know there’s a lot of demand in North Africa so what are the chances of Nouvelair,Air Cairo and RAM in the next few years.

Be nice to get sun express to operate Bodrum cause I know that the route is proving very popular

What makes you say BHX is a low cost airport ?

If we was a true low cost airport like Luton, EMA etc we would not have EK,QR,SV,LH,AF,LX,SK,SN,AI,TK etc etc.

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

What makes you say BHX is a low cost airport ?

If we was a true low cost airport like Luton, EMA etc we would not have EK,QR,SV,LH,AF,LX,SK,SN,AI,TK etc etc.

To be fair you got a point.

Maybe the airport is mostly Low cost but with the odd international.

See I’m thinking of those airlines to increase demand.

For example Pegasus was meant to operate Antalya this summer but it got cancelled due to I don’t know what.

Hopefully Ryanair will increase it’s presence though

To be fair you got a point.

Maybe the airport is mostly Low cost but with the odd international.

See I’m thinking of those airlines to increase demand.

For example Pegasus was meant to operate Antalya this summer but it got cancelled due to I don’t know what.

Hopefully Ryanair will increase it’s presence though

Pretty excited for next summer for what it could bring aswell

 

[nwoody2001]

why the hell do people think that BHX is a low-cost airport.... Over 50% of the airlines that operate from BHX are Full-service airlines compared to the likes of STN/LTN who struggle to get anywhere near that level....

STN = 19x Airlines / 6x Full-service Airlines
(Air Algerie / British Airways / Emirates / Royal Air Maroc / Royal Jordanian / Turkish)

LTN = 10x Airlines / 1x Full-services Airlines
(El Al)

BHX = 24x Airlines / 14x Full-services Airlines
(Aer Lingus / Air France / Air India / Aurigny / Brussels / Emirates / KLM / Loganair / Lufthansa / Qatar Airways / Saudia / SAS / Swiss International / Turkish)

 

[Severn]

To be fair you got a point.

Maybe the airport is mostly Low cost but with the odd international.

See I’m thinking of those airlines to increase demand.

For example Pegasus was meant to operate Antalya this summer but it got cancelled due to I don’t know what.

Hopefully Ryanair will increase it’s presence though


Pretty excited for next summer for what it could bring aswell

You should compare the BHX departure boards (or even FR24) to other UK airports and I think you’ll find that in comparison to most, BHX is not as low-cost as you believe. And has a lot more than the “odd international”. Remember that sometimes it’s useful to take a step backwards and see the airport for what it really is and be proud of it and how lucky you are that your nearest airport has even half the routes and airlines it does.

 

[rollo]

BHX has an excellent balance of airlines many airports would love and from recent official statements the near future looks brighter than for a long while

Regarding low cost carriers if they ain't mostly doing 30 min turn rounds they ain't low cost BHX has three.

 

[Matt995]

I know bhx is a low cost airport and I know there’s a lot of demand in North Africa so what are the chances of Nouvelair,Air Cairo and RAM in the next few years.

Be nice to get sun express to operate Bodrum cause I know that the route is proving very popular

You keep talking about new aiirlines and services, why ask this question? No one knows which future airlines we are going to attract, the airport will do its homework, the airlines will do their homework, and lets see what develops, just wait and see, guessing airlines will not bring them in!!

Bodrum popular? who says that??? TUI dropped Bodrum thsi year as the sales were poor, so no idea why you say that, do you know the Jet2 load figures on Bodrum then?

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

You keep talking about new aiirlines and services, why ask this question? No one knows which future airlines we are going to attract, the airport will do its homework, the airlines will do their homework, and lets see what develops, just wait and see, guessing airlines will not bring them in!!

Bodrum popular? who says that??? TUI dropped Bodrum thsi year as the sales were poor, so no idea why you say that, do you know the Jet2 load figures on Bodrum then?

So the answer to your question is this

https://twitter.com/x/status/1852367933197979824

And demand for Bodrum is that we have actually increased capacity on the route this summer with A21Ns on the route so this is the situation I think where bhx build on and take a grip of things.Increase demand on flights where summer has been a success and build up capacity for the next summer.

I personally think and I think you will agree with or maybe not that sun express and Pegasus Birmingham pile drivers for increased capacity in turkey

Credit Anna Aero and Sean M

 

[IanFarquharson]

You aren't too far off Ant, BHX is a low cost lesuire airport. The split is 88% lesuire and 12% business so the majority of all passengers use the low cost lesuire carriers

BHX is not a low cost leisure airport