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A truly memorable moment in a truly memorable year. It was a scorcher too if I remember it correctly.
 

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What are we to make of the growing exodus from Europe to China? Obviously I can't read Gareth's mind but I've heard many armchair commentators accuse him of greed and/or laziness.
Not really a football fan but if the European teams don't bid for him or can't afford him then he'll go to where they can and he does need playing time. Gareth doesn't seem a stupid person so he'll have no doubt thought of pros and cons before hand. Might now mean CWL gets some private jet flights from China!
 

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Not really a football fan but if the European teams don't bid for him or can't afford him then he'll go to where they can and he does need playing time. Gareth doesn't seem a stupid person so he'll have no doubt thought of pros and cons before hand. Might now mean CWL gets some private jet flights from China!
He won't be playing at a high level in China so competitive international matches with Wales might be a test if he is not match-fit for that standard of football.
 

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He won't be playing at a high level in China so competitive international matches with Wales might be a test if he is not match-fit for that standard of football.
Hopefully it will mean he's fitter for Wales as well.
 

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Hopefully it will mean he's fitter for Wales as well.
We won't know now because Real Madrid have called off the China move for Bale.
 

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I don't follow the development of the rules of the game that closely, so Manchester City's disallowed goal against Tottenham yesterday was the first time I recall seeing the accidental handball rule spelled out.

Lots of people complaining that it violates the "spirit of the game", but I suppose that depends whether one takes the fans' viewpoint or the referees' viewpoint.

Clearly the alternative to ruling out all use of the arm/hand is to let the referee interpret whether the touch was deliberate (and he can't usually rely on the players for that!).

But under the old laws a referee who had given a series of decisions in favour of one team might feel under pressure to redress the balance by "interpreting" the handball replay in favour of the other, whereas the new rule removes the possibility of that.
 

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I don't follow the development of the rules of the game that closely, so Manchester City's disallowed goal against Tottenham yesterday was the first time I recall seeing the accidental handball rule spelled out.

Lots of people complaining that it violates the "spirit of the game", but I suppose that depends whether one takes the fans' viewpoint or the referees' viewpoint.

Clearly the alternative to ruling out all use of the arm/hand is to let the referee interpret whether the touch was deliberate (and he can't usually rely on the players for that!).

But under the old laws a referee who had given a series of decisions in favour of one team might feel under pressure to redress the balance by "interpreting" the handball replay in favour of the other, whereas the new rule removes the possibility of that.
It's a new law of the game this season. If a goal is scored after accidentally touching an attacker's hand or arm the 'goal' will be disallowed (if it was deliberate it would always have been ruled out). Below is the new law relating to handball (Law 12).

  • Deliberate handball remains an offence
  • The following ‘handball’ situations, even if accidental, will be a free kick:
    • The ball goes into the goal after touching an attacking player’s hand/arm
    • A player gains control/possession of the ball after it has touches their hand/arm•and then scores, or creates a goal-scoring opportunity
    • The ball touches a player’s hand/arm which has made their body unnaturally bigger
    • The ball touches a player’s hand/arm when it is above their shoulder (unless the player has deliberately played the ball which then touches their hand/arm
There are several other new laws this season relating to such things as penalty kicks, 'walls' at free kicks, dropped balls, goal kicks, goal celebrations, kick-off, medical breaks, substitutes leaving the field, players' equipment, quick free kicks not delayed for yellow or red card.

The below link lists the new laws.

 

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