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With it being a bit quiet lately, I thought I would share some photos from nearly 40 years ago.

Air Ecosse Twin Otter

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Jersey European Twin Otter

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Air Ecosse Bandeirante

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Genair Bandeirante

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Those were the days when you could get on to the apron (with a bit of persuasion).
 

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With it being a bit quiet lately, I thought I would share some photos from nearly 40 years ago.

Air Ecosse Twin Otter

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Jersey European Twin Otter

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Air Ecosse Bandeirante

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Genair Bandeirante

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Those were the days when you could get on to the apron (with a bit of persuasion).
I flew on a Twin Otter of Brymon Airways once LGW-EXT in dreadful weather....rather interesting landing at Exeter.
 

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As a young travel agent I also remember booking some passengers from Shoreham to Jersey on JEA, operated with a Bandeirante.
 

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@Carl0927 sent me a message earlier with regards to the Aer Lingus Carvair service that operated between Liverpool and Dublin between 1963 & 1966. The ATL-98 Carvair was basically a converted DC-6 with a modified nose section which had the cockpit above the old cabin and a side hinged front nose door through which cars, and later palletised freight, were loaded. The aircraft carried up to 5 cars (remember cars were a lot smaller in those days) in the main fuselage - back to around just aft of the rear wing root - and could accommodate 23 passengers in the rear cabin.

I well remember being taken on holiday by my parents and using the service. This would be the first of only two flights taken from Speke (the other being on a British Midland DC-9-10 to Heathrow circa 1985). We departed to Dublin from the iconic original Terminal, which is now a hotel, and I will never forget the thrill of the engines being run-up to full power, against the brakes, to check the magnetos - this was an event that resulted in the whole cabin shaking and almost twisting. The rest of the flight I can't recall in detail except to say that the old days of travel, for a boy who was only just in his teens, where the best!!
 
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@Carl0927 sent me a message earlier with regards to the Aer Lingus Carvair service that operated between Liverpool and Dublin between 1963 & 1966. The ATL-98 Carvair was basically a converted DC-6 with a modified nose section which had the cockpit above the old cabin and a side hinged front nose door through which cars, and later palletised freight, we're loaded. The aircraft carried up to 5 cars (remember cars were a lot smaller in those days) in the main fuselage - back to around just aft of the rear wing root - and could accommodate 23 passengers in the rear cabin.

I well remember being taken on holiday by my parents and using the service. This would be the first of only two flights taken from Speke (the other being on a British Midland DC-9-10 to Heathrow circa 1985). We departed to Dublin from the iconic original Terminal, which is now a hotel, and I will never forget the thrill of the engines being run-up to full power, against the brakes, to check the magnetos - this was an event that resulted in the whole cabin shaking and almost twisting. The rest of the flight I can't recall in detail except to say that the old days of travel, for a boy who was only just in his teens, where the best!!

Sounds like a trip from yesteryear, even now i find propeller aircraft a more thrilling flying experience.

I also BMAs DC9-10 or was it a -15 can't remember LPL-LHR with full complementary food and drink in about 45 mins . I used this route quite a bit, no passports or i.d then you just got on.
 

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@Carl0927 sent me a message earlier with regards to the Aer Lingus Carvair service that operated between Liverpool and Dublin between 1963 & 1966. The ATL-98 Carvair was basically a converted DC-6 with a modified nose section which had the cockpit above the old cabin and a side hinged front nose door through which cars, and later palletised freight, we're loaded. The aircraft carried up to 5 cars (remember cars were a lot smaller in those days) in the main fuselage - back to around just aft of the rear wing root - and could accommodate 23 passengers in the rear cabin.

I well remember being taken on holiday by my parents and using the service. This would be the first of only two flights taken from Speke (the other being on a British Midland DC-9-10 to Heathrow circa 1985). We departed to Dublin from the iconic original Terminal, which is now a hotel, and I will never forget the thrill of the engines being run-up to full power, against the brakes, to check the magnetos - this was an event that resulted in the whole cabin shaking and almost twisting. The rest of the flight I can't recall in detail except to say that the old days of travel, for a boy who was only just in his teens, where the best!!
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I think it must have been Viscounts before the DC9s with British Midland.
 

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@Carl0927 sent me a message earlier with regards to the Aer Lingus Carvair service that operated between Liverpool and Dublin between 1963 & 1966. The ATL-98 Carvair was basically a converted DC-6 with a modified nose section which had the cockpit above the old cabin and a side hinged front nose door through which cars, and later palletised freight, we're loaded. The aircraft carried up to 5 cars (remember cars were a lot smaller in those days) in the main fuselage - back to around just aft of the rear wing root - and could accommodate 23 passengers in the rear cabin.

I well remember being taken on holiday by my parents and using the service. This would be the first of only two flights taken from Speke (the other being on a British Midland DC-9-10 to Heathrow circa 1985). We departed to Dublin from the iconic original Terminal, which is now a hotel, and I will never forget the thrill of the engines being run-up to full power, against the brakes, to check the magnetos - this was an event that resulted in the whole cabin shaking and almost twisting. The rest of the flight I can't recall in detail except to say that the old days of travel, for a boy who was only just in his teens, where the best!!

Thinking about Aer Lingus, they used to use BAC 1-11s except the mid day rotation which was a 737, but this too had a cargo section to it, probably taking about a quarter of the fuselage. So maybe the palletised freight was something they carried on doing.

Later Aer Lingus had competition from a new airline called Ryanair , firstly with an ATR42 or 72 not sure, until they started using their own 1-11s.
I even recall Ryanair leasing in a HS748 for extra capacity, they must have been short of aircraft. This would be in the 90s sometime. I know it used to operate an extra departure around 17.00 on a Friday which I always struggled getting reservations on when I worked in travel in Runcorn.
 
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I don't recall Aer Lingus operating their 737s in mixed passenger/freight mode. If I'm correct they were QC (quick change) versions and operated as passenger aircraft and then switched to freighter configuration for the night flights.

I do recall Sabena operating a mixed configuration out of Manchester, but I believe it was only on the late evening arrival from Brussels that then overnight and left again at around 7am.
 
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I don't recall Aer Lingus operating their 737s in mixed passenger/freight mode. If I'm correct they were AS (quick change) versions and operated as passenger aircraft and then switched to freighter configuration for the night flights.

I do recall Sabena operating a mixed configuration out of Manchester, but I believe it was only on the late evening arrival from Brussels that then overnight and left again at around 7am.
I could be wrong but i seem to have it in my memory for some reason. So long ago now !
 

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Just did a bit of digging they did acquire a 737-200QC which they used from LPL-DUB for a mix of passengers and freight. This apparently replaced an all cargo Viscount service.
 

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I'm pretty sure Aer Lingus operated their 737-200QC out of BHX also after the Carvairs were retired but like Scotte Dog going from memory way back in the mists of time.
 

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I remember the 737QC at BHX operating on certain days ... seem to remember Tuesday ??? With part cargo part pax loads as I can remember thinking as a youngster..... what if the crew needed to get from 1 end to other ..
 
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