Saudia

[Kevin Farnell]

Perhaps they will as they expand further.

 

[David Cartwright]

Perhaps they will as they expand further.

There’s very much an anti competitive attitude from the Aussie Government . They have just refused QR additional slots into Australia , because it “ would be detrimental to Qantas” ,even though Qantas doesnt operate to any Middle East destinations let alone Doha .. As a Brummie living in Australia I would love an alternative operator to fly me back to the UK , but I’m not holding my breath .

 

[tompo]

Likewise. Readers may note that I have posted similarly on the QR thread.

 

[Scania1800]

I see 787-10 is booked for 10 August SV251. This is subject to change though

 

[rollo]

Reported elsewhere a pretty reliable poster jon01 that a 787-10 is due to operate on 10/8 as noted above and then in September on 3/10/12/16/19/26 then October 3/10/17/24.

 

[laviation]

Think it is booked onto 1/3 of the weekly flights throughout the winter. 789 operating the other two.

 

[IanFarquharson]

SV was full outbound Sunday

 

[nwoody2001]

And by my calcs, the last 10 SV departures have had an Av LF of 92%, as Ian has said, the departing fligths are going out pretty close to/if not full.

i wonder if the 787-10 has any additional cargo benefit over the 787-9 as i hear cargo is doing well on the route also?

 

[Ashley]

Does offer a bit more capacity . It can take 13 pallets in the cargo hold, two more than the 787-9.

 

[rollo]

Its all looking really good.

To be honest I thought when Saudi started it might be overkill but the reported loads seem fantastic along with Qatar seemingly literally getting off to a flyer and Emirates look to be able to more or less fill whatever they put on, add in Turkish with their double daily and Air India we are served unbelievablely well going East.

If only we could just get one comparable service going West.

 

[rollo]

It appears Saudi will continue with more 787-10 substitutions from the previously dates adding in Ocober 15th and 26th and then every Tuesday from November credit to jon01 posting elsewhere who has been spot on so far.

At this rate all 787-10 or increased frequency lies down the line

 

[Scania1800]

It appears Saudi will continue with more 787-10 substitutions from the previously dates adding in Ocober 15th and 26th and then every Tuesday from November credit to jon01 posting elsewhere who has been spot on so far.

At this rate all 787-10 or increased frequency lies down the line

Increased frequency is a little too early to do, most likley it will become an all 78X route or the 777s step in.

 

[IanFarquharson]

Todays Saudi 787X is 100% full inbound !

 

[RichL]

But it’s also the end of the six weeks summer holidays.

 

[IanFarquharson]

But it’s also the end of the six weeks summer holidays.

I dont care what date it is a 100% LF is unbelievable !

 

[Karl C]

But it’s also the end of the six weeks summer holidays.

Credit where credit is due Rich, not even well established routes get 100% load factor. Even in high season.

 

[DarloPlaneBoy]

When is Hajj, I assume Saudia would increase the frequency, as I remember learning all Muslim's have to do it once in thier life.

 

[Coathanger16]

When is Hajj, I assume Saudia would increase the frequency, as I remember learning all Muslim's have to do it once in thier life.

This year it fell just before Saudia started (26th June to 1st July).

Next year it runs from 14th June until 19th June.

 

[gulftraveller]

In recent years, Saudia have not increased capacity to UK during Hajj. The airline is flat out at that time and charters in extra aircraft, specifically for flights to e.g. India, Indonesia, Pakistan. Pilgrims will not book flight only but have packages controlled by the Saudi government, normally with each country getting a specific allocation.

 

[tompo]

100% loading = at least 10% bumping with subsequent disruption (and actual negative income) for the airline. At this point the airline will deeply re analyse the route and, if it appears a longer term prospect, will look to either increasing frequency or capacity depending on its current and future capability. The decision will not necessarily be made regarding the primary route under consideration but with the data gleaned from the current and prospective financial performance of the company as a whole. In other words: this is quite a scientific process and decisions are not made lightly on short- term performance data.