Ryanair

[Marko1]

I hear FR will add REU and EGC for peak season. Both will be 2x per week.

Any idea when these flights may be released?

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Any idea when these flights may be released?

Bergerac is now showing in the Ryanair calendar at 2 x weekly (Sun and Wed) but only in July and August. It's not yet bookable though. Nothing yet for Reus.

 

[Marko1]

reus now showing once a week on Saturdays

 

[Marko1]

To accommodate these returning flights to bergerac and reus , one flight to Venice (sun) and one to Warsaw ( sat) have been dropped whilst the routes are in operation

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Passengers on Ireland flight grounded at Bristol Airport for four hours after plane 'scraped by vehicle'

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/passengers-ireland-flight-grounded-bristol-1404142

A Ryanair B787-800 from/to Knock was delayed at BRS for four hours today because a vehicle had 'scraped' it, according to this newspaper report.

It eventually flew back to Knock with the passengers who had been kept on board much to their displeasure, or at least much to the displeasure of those who contacted the newspaper. One moaned that they would not serve alcohol on board whilst they waited - makes is sound as though the lack of a mouthful of booze was more distressing than the wait.

 

[Red Flyer]

A 3rd weekly GDN will be on sale in the near future

 

[Marko1]

The third flight now appearing peak summer every weds night

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Summer 2018

Following recent alterations I've had another look at the Ryanair timetable for the main summer months.

Looking back at previous summers since the base opened in 2007 this summer's offering consists of the largest number of flights during that period, although not by much (at one time it looked as though summer 2018 would be slightly down on summer 2017).

There will be 32 destinations (one more than last summer): Zadar has been dropped after just one summer but Cologne and Shannon are additions. Bergerac and Reus will only operate in July and August with the latter just once weekly on Saturdays. Last summer these routes began in June.

This is the number of weekly rotations each month from May until September.

May: 120 (4 more than in 2017)
June: 121 (6 more than in 2017)
July: 122 (1 more than in 2017)
August: 125 (6 fewer than in 2017)
September: 125 (4 more than in 2017)

As a comparison, easyJet will operate 59 routes this summer although not all will run from the end of March which is four more than in summer 2017 with the new routes being Athens, Stockholm, Seville and Genoa.

In summer Ryanair and easyJet compete on Alicante, Malaga, Palma, Ibiza, Tenerife, Arrecife, Faro, Krakow and Venice MP.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Shannon

I saw an advert for the above new route on a bus shelter just off the Bath Road at Brislington today. You have to walk right up to it to ascertain the flight is from BRS as these details are included in small print along the bottom of the advert.

Seemed a slightly odd place to site such an advert as the road leads to mainly housing estates although there is a major school along the route. Perhaps there are other adverts on bus shelters in more prominent locations that I've not noticed.

It's to be hoped the route is not struggling for bookings. When Ryanair last operated BRS-SNN they carried between 80,000 and nearly 100,000 passengers on it every year from 2006 until 2009, the last full year of operation. It became one of the many victims of Ryanair's fall-out with SNN at that time. Aer Lingus Regional tried it for a year or two then tried again after a gap but passenger figures were never fantastic.

 

[Severn]

Since I last checked, the BRS-DUB route which was showing until recently as 19x flights per week throughout the whole of this year is now showing an increase to 20x flights per week from 4th June to 1st October.
Last year BRS-DUB was only 14x flights per week during June and July, before increasing to 19x flights per week thereafter.
Therefore, this June and July will see an increase of 6x flights a week on the BRS-DUB route than the same time last year. Between August and September there will be an increase of 1x flight a week than the same time last year.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Since I last checked, the BRS-DUB route which was showing until recently as 19x flights per week throughout the whole of this year is now showing an increase to 20x flights per week from 4th June to 1st October.
Last year BRS-DUB was only 14x flights per week during June and July, before increasing to 19x flights per week thereafter.
Therefore, this June and July will see an increase of 6x flights a week on the BRS-DUB route than the same time last year. Between August and September there will be an increase of 1x flight a week than the same time last year.

Looking at each month from May to September this year and comparing with the same period last year this is how the monthly total differences are made up.

May 120 rotations each week, 4 more than in 2017: Cologne (4 weekly) and Shannon (2 weekly) are additions (new routes) and Zadar (2 weekly in 2017) is axed.

June 121 rotations each week, 6 more than in 2017: Cologne (4 weekly) and Shannon (2 weekly) are additions (new routes) and Dublin is increased by 6 weekly (to 20); Reus and Bergerac (both 2 weekly in 2017) don't operate and Zadar (2 weekly in 2017) is axed.

July 122 rotations each week, 1 more than in 2017: Cologne (3 weekly) and Shannon (2 weekly) are additions (new routes) and Dublin is increased by 6 weekly (to 20) and Gdansk is increased by 1 (to 3); Alicante is reduced by 2 (to 8), Reus is reduced by 1 (to 1), Las Palmas is reduced by 1 (to 2), Tenerife is reduced by 1 (to 3), Bergerac is reduced by 1 (to 2), Chania is reduced by 1 (to 2), Venice MP is reduced by 1 (to 3), Warsaw Modlin is reduced by 1 (to 3), and Zadar (2 weekly in 2017) is axed.

August 125 rotations each week, 6 less than in 2017: Cologne (3 weekly) and Shannon (2 weekly) are additions (new routes) and Dublin is increased by 1 weekly (to 20) and Gdansk is increased by 1 (to 3); Reus is reduced by 1 (to 1), Las Palmas is reduced by 1 (to 2), Tenerife is reduced by 1 (to 3), Bergerac is reduced by 1 (to 2), Chania is reduced by 1 (to 2), Venice MP is reduced by 1 (to 3), Warsaw Modlin is reduced by 1 (to 3), Beziers is reduced by 1 (to 3), Faro is reduced by 3 (to 7) and Zadar (2 weekly in 2017) is axed.

September 125 rotations each week, 4 more than in 2017: Cologne (4 weekly) and Shannon (2 weekly) are additions (new routes) and Dublin is increased by 1 weekly (to 20), Gdansk is increased by 1 (to 3), Palma is increased by 1 (to 10) and Alicante is increased by 2 (to 10); Reus (2 weekly in 2017) and Bergerac (3 weekly in 2017) don't operate and Zadar (2 weekly in 2017) is axed.

 

[ksvix392]

Will be lucky to get shannon back for S19, not looking great. both airports should be working together if they want it to survive.

 

[Marko1]

Will be lucky to get shannon back for S19, not looking great. both airports should be working together if they want it to survive.

I've been watching this one closely over the last few weeks and currently the first outbound flight has less than 50 prebooked seats taken. Obviously that will change closer the time plus those who choose not to prebook will have theirs allocated for them. Conversely knock's loads are looking good so maybe the punters are used to flying to knock. I have to say that there's been little in the way of publicity that I have seen but then do new routes from the big two need much advertising ? I'm surprised that Ryanair hasn't pulled this like it did a few years ago when it relaunched dinard. I've always felt this slot is where Bergerac should have slotted in .

 

[ksvix392]

Taking a look at the shannon airport twitter and facebook theres nothing, not even much in the way of advertising other routes either however there could be billboards up locally

 

[ksvix392]

afaik shannon and ryanair signed a new 5 year deal back in march which seen then get bristol(2 weekly) liverpool(3 weekly). will probably pull these after a while

 

[ksvix392]

48 reserved for noc-brs on friday(day after snn-brs starts) 27 for snn-brs on the thursday. we wont know for sure until the night before when everyone has checked in. hopefully the route does good for both airports sakes. it done well back in the day

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Shannon

Ryanair's seat selector tends to fill in the couple of days prior to a flight. I'm not saying that the SNN flights will suddenly bloom to 90% load factors by Thursday and, anyway, they are unlikely to reach that level this summer, except perhaps in the peak months.

Comparing the BRS-NOC route that has been running since the BRS Ryanair base opened in 2007, the monthly load factors have never approached those on Ryanair's BRS Eastern European or the majority of sun routes that are consistently well in the 90s% each month.

For example, monthly load factors on BRS-NOC from May to September last year were respectively 73%, 79%, 86%, 93%, 83% which is typical, perhaps slightly higher, than the BRS-NOC performance in previous years. BRS-DUB too never reaches consistent 90% load factors; it's impossible for outsiders to establish exactly what they are because Aer Lingus Regional competes on that route.

Despite the summer load factors being considerably below the airline's average Ryanair will extend BRS-NOC to year-round this year and the BRS-DUB programme has been increased too.

Loads are only a pointer to a market volume. We never know the yields which are the crucial figures.

Currently BRS-SNN on Thursday has 52 occupied seats and SNN-BRS 31. On Friday BRS-NOC has 82 occupied seats and NOC-BRS 50.

Prior to the BRS base opening in late 2007 Ryanair operated three routes to BRS from other bases: DUB, GRO and SNN. In 2006 and in 2007 BRS-SNN carried 97,000 passengers; 85,000 in 2008; 81,000 in 2009 after which it was discontinued along with a lot more Ryanair SNN routes. There was certainly a market then for BRS-SNN.

I posted recently that I've seen advertisments for the BRS-SNN route on bus stops in Bristol which isn't a bad medium as it gives people something to look at whilst waiting for a bus, that is if they aren't playing with their mobile phones.

 

[ksvix392]

does anybody know the break even load for ryanair (the load factor they need to make a profit)

 

[Jerry]

does anybody know the break even load for ryanair (the load factor they need to make a profit)

I'd imagine that would be different for every single route they fly.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

does anybody know the break even load for ryanair (the load factor they need to make a profit)

I think it varies from route to route and involves such things as 'deals' they have with individual airports. Routes to Eastern Europe typically don't generate much on-board spend whilst holiday routes do, so that all forms part of the overall yield.

Ryanair has axed routes at BRS such as Bratislava which had consistent monthly load factors of over 90% yet retained the likes of Knock with lower load factors. Last summer Ryanair began a BRS route to Zadar in Croatia which turned in monthly load factors respectively of 73%, 90%, 86%, 90% and 85% from May to September. That didn't suit Ryanair so the route has been axed after just one summer.

Even if route A at airport B is profitable there might be another route at airport B or one at airport C that is more profitable, so route A might be in danger despite seemingly good loads and making a profit but a less than satisfactory one for the airline.