Ryanair Seville dropped? I thought that was a successful route for them at Bristol?

I think Ryanair have dropped all the UK provincial routes to Seville for this summer (EMA, LPL and BRS).

Last summer the monthly main summer load factors from BRS May to September were respectively 71%, 74%, 83%, 91% and 80%. Summer 2010 was very similar - not sensational by any means.

Obviously lfs are not the defining reason for operating or retaining a route but they give an idea of a market.
 
New Route - Warsaw Modlin

It was announced this afternoon that Ryanair will commence flying Bristol-Warsaw Modlin 3 x weekly from 30 October this year.

Eleven routes from Modlin were announced today with the other UK routes being Liverpool, East Midlands, Manchester and Prestwick.

Ryanair currently flies to these Polish destinations from Bristol: Lodz, Wroclaw, Poznan, Rzeszow, Gdansk and Katowice. easyJet flies to Krakow.

In 2008 easyJet operated a Bristol-Warsaw Chopin route that was highly successful in terms of loads but the airline axed it and all its Warsaw routes because of the high charges imposed at Chopin Airport.

It remains to be seen if Ryanair will axe any of its current BRS Polish routes when Modlin commences.
 
Bergamo

Interesting advertisement in a local free newspaper this week re the 3 x weekly BRS-BGY route that operates on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays.

The large advert features flights around £15 each way on Tuesdays and Thursdays for the next few weeks, but makes Bergamo itself the eye-catching destination and resort rather than Milan that invariably is used by Ryanair as in Milan Bergamo.

Could also suggest of course that the Tuesday and Thursday flights need selling and that this is a different angle from which to try to attract punters.
 
Malaga and Dublin

The Tuesday rotation to Malaga hasn't operated for the past few weeks though seems to be back for June.

One Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays the Dublin has been down to two daily rotations (no afternoon one) though June seems to be back to 3 x daily every day (21 weekly).
 
Ryanair - Dublin

Following on from my previous post in this section in May, Ryanair has reduced BRS-DUB to 2 x daily (14 x weekly) this coming winter.

Both rotations appear to be operated by a BRS-based aircraft. The afternoon rotation has been dropped. The evening rotation will not get back to BRS until 2330.

In winter 2010/2011 Ryanair reduced BRS-DUB to 16 x weekly (2 x daily plus addititonal rotations on Mondays and Fridays) and it seemed this would be the pattern for summer 2011.

Then Aer Lingus Regional came on the scene with a 3x daily BRS-DUB to which Ryanair immediately responded by returning their service to 3 x daily (21 x weekly).

Last winter Regional reduced to 2 x daily which they have carried over into the current summer.

So from 6 Dublin rotations per day in summer 2011 BRS will be reduced to 4 daily this coming winter.

Although Dublin was BRS's most popular route in 2011 with 323,000 passengers, thanks to the arrival of Regional, the percentage rise over 2010 was not aligned to the percentage increase in seats and this year is no different.

For example, in June this year 25,914 people travelled between Bristol and Dublin in total (Ryanair 3 x daily and Regional 2 x daily), whereas in June 2010 24,742 travelled when the only carrier was Ryanair (again 3 x daily).

In June 2010 it's easy to establish that Ryanair's load factor was 73% as it was the only carrier. In June 2012 only the load factor of the route as a whole can be calculated as there were two carriers (Regional and Ryanair) and the stats show the figure to be around 61% of all available seats occupied.

That there were too many seats at 6 x daily is shown in the June 2011 figures. Regional had added 37% more seats to the route that summer but passenger numbers at 29,250 had risen by only 18% in June.

It does seem therefore that the market has not grown much, merely that Aer Lingus Regional has taken a share of a generally static market to the detriment of Ryanair. For once Ryanair has felt the pressure of another airline causing it to reduce services as it apparently tries to work out the optimum number of seats for the route in competition with Regional.

All stats courtesy of the CAA.
 
Knock - Ryanair

Knock which was dropped last winter after appearing in the schedule since the BRS base opened in 2007 is showing as operating Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays this coming winter. It was brought back for this summer, also 3 x weekly.
 
Knock - Ryanair

Further to my previous post, I forgot to add that a fourth rotation on Mondays has been added for this August.
 
Reus - Ryanair

Reus will operate through the winter at the end of the current summer at 2 x weekly.

It last operated in winter in 2009-2010 and has been a summer-only route since then.

Girona will not be operating this winter as things stand. It didn't operate last winter having done so up until the previous winter though it's been a regular summer route since before the BRS base opened in 2007.

It seems slightly odd given that Girona operates 8 x weekly this summer and Reus only 2 x weekly. It's likely that it's down to costs I suppose.

Good new though that Ryanair has resurrected two winter routes in Knock and 'Barcelona' even if it is the other Ryanair version this time.
 
TheLocalYokel said:
Reus - Ryanair

Reus will operate through the winter at the end of the current summer at 2 x weekly.

It last operated in winter in 2009-2010 and has been a summer-only route since then.

Girona will not be operating this winter as things stand. It didn't operate last winter having done so up until the previous winter though it's been a regular summer route since before the BRS base opened in 2007.

It seems slightly odd given that Girona operates 8 x weekly this summer and Reus only 2 x weekly. It's likely that it's down to costs I suppose.

Good new though that Ryanair has resurrected two winter routes in Knock and 'Barcelona' even if it is the other Ryanair version this time.

I suspect we will see Reus from a few UK airports this winter after Ryanair had a(nother) fall out with the Spanish government slashing flights from El Prat. It's all a bit pointless though if they're just moving flights down the road to Reus but a typical move by the airline. :rolleyes: Interestingly though, I think BRS is to keep it's BCN flights unlike many other UK airports.
 
Interestingly though, I think BRS is to keep it's BCN flights unlike many other UK airports.

I was surprised there was no FR 'Barcelona' from BRS last winter given that easyJet flies to Barcelona proper year-round - 11 weekly in summer.

The market for the Barcelona area is good from BRS. In June around 30,000 travelled on the various easyJet/Ryanair flights to El Prat, Girona and Reus. There were also a couple of charters a week as well to Reus.
 
Winter 2012-2013

A look at late November shows 51 weekly rotations.

As usual Ryanair rings the destination changes with Rzeszow, Bratislava, Bergamo and Riga that operated last winter (though Riga was axed in early January) replaced by Budapest, Reus, Knock and the new Warsaw Modlin.

There will 18 routes, the same as last winter, but there are six fewer weekly rotations mainly due to Dublin being reduced to 2 x daily instead of last winter's 3 x daily.

Nine of the weekly rotations are operated by non-based aircraft, including all the Canary Islands except one Tenerife rotation, Faro, Malta and one Malaga rotation. This appears to mean that only two based aircraft will be required.

Using non-based aircraft means one or two very early starts from resort back to BRS and one late arrival - 0050 at Arrecife on Saturdays, or rather the early hours of Sunday morning.

Routes are:

Dublin 2 x daily
Alicante Mon, Wed, Fri
Malaga Tues, Thurs, Sat
Knock Mon, Wed, Fri
Warsaw Tues, Thurs, Sun
Beziers Mon, Fri
Budapest Tues, Sat
Faro Thurs, Sat
Gdansk Wed, Sun
Katowice Tues, Sat
Kaunas Thurs, Sun
Arrecife Tues, Sat
Malta Thurs, Sun
Poznan Mon, Fri
Reus Tues, Sat
Tenerife South Thurs, Sun
Wroclaw Mon, Fri
Las Palmas Sat
 
Summer 2013

There is a discussion on the Dried Plum regarding next summer at BRS where the current timetable appears to need only two based aircraft instead of the five of previous summers. I've not checked the timetable myself.

There seems little if any reduction in flights but the majority appear to be operated by aircraft from other bases as the timetable stands at the moment.

I have two observations to make:

1. The Ryanair timetable is always a work in progress and undergoes many changes before a season begins.

2. Two or three months ago a poster on Forums4Airports who is well-informed on BRS matters suggested that new routes would feature next summer.

So it may be that matters will change before the end of March.
 
What will they be on, the 10th or 11th edition? Only another 20 or so editions to go before it looks anything like the final scheduling. :rolleyes:
 
Ryanair summer 2013 at BRS

All the destinations operated in summer 12 are now currently bookable plus Modlin. However, Dublin is now 16 x weekly instead of the 21 x weekly in summer 12 and Treviso has dropped from 3 x weekly to 2 x weekly. The addition of Modlin gives a net loss of three weekly rotations (currently 105 weekly rotations in total).

From timings 38 of the rotations appear to be operated by BRS-based aircraft with 67 from other bases. In summer 2012 only 14 of the 108 weekly rotations were operated by non-based aircraft.

The current timetable appears to require only two BRS-based aircraft and even then there are gaps with only four rotations by 'local' aircraft on Saturdays and five on both Tuesdays and Wednesdays.

There may be one or two additional weekly flights in peak summer as there were in the peak periods of summers 11 and 12.

In recent summers five BRS-based aircraft have been fully utilised from the airport (with the odd gap). It seems inconceivable that a host of new routes will be announced to fully occupy all of the three aircraft currently not required in the summer 13 timetable so, unless there is a major re-writing of the timetable, it appears that some or all of these aircraft may be destined for other work next summer.

Or will they?

A couple of months ago conns757 posted in another thread in this forum: "........your gonna love trying to work out the FR flights coming soon."

I took it, perhaps incorrectly, that he was referring to some new routes. Could it be that this revised operational scheduling is what he meant?

Incidentally, the bulk of this post is based on my alter ego's offering elsewhere on the Net in case anyone thinks I've gone in for wholesale plagiarism.
 
New Ryanair route Bristol-Chania

FR announced a new one-aircraft base at Chania, Crete with ten new routes including one to BRS next summer.

Re my previous post there is speculation that FR has rostered its summer 13 flights to/from BRS with the majority operated by non-BRS-based aircraft because negotiations are ongoing between airline and airport over a new deal, and if an agreement cannot be reached (I'd be surprised if this happens but who can second-guess anything in the aviation industry?) the airline could easily remove the bulk of its BRS-based aircraft.
 
Probable new Ryanair route Bristol-Szczecin

Szczecin is now shown in the Ryanair web timetable and booking engine but not yet bookable, and a post on another forum says Bristol-Szczecin will commence on 30 April.

This route was operated by Ryanair in 2008-2009.

If all the routes operate that are currently shown for summer 2013 there will be nine Polish routes from BRS:

Ryanair

Gdansk
Katowice
Lodz
Poznan
Rzeszow
Szczecin
Warsaw Modlin
Wroclaw

easyJet

Krakow
 
Szczecin now confirmed 2 x weekly Tues and Sat using a BRS-based aircraft by the timings.

Reading other forums especially :plums: it does now seem that the BRS base will be reduced from five aircraft to two with effect from the summer programme. Practically, only two are needed to operate the current winter programme which was also the case in the previous winter.

There is a suggestion in the aforementioned forum that FR wants to reduce the number of aircraft it parks up each winter and is looking more closely at bases that it deems capable of using more aircraft in winter. It was also said the FR Bristol engineering facility will be closed.

That may not be the entire story as far as BRS is concerned though.

Posts elsewhere suggest that FR wants to avoid the peak times at BRS as much as it can because of higher charges during those hours so is now operating the majority of its flights to/from Bristol using aircraft from other bases outside the BRS peak hours.

Summer 2013 will see a broadly similar programme to summer 2012 with around 110 weekly rotations.

Usually when FR downsizes a base it's because it can't get its way over charges or some other matter it believes will impact it adversely financially, it goes public castigating the airport in question with the dire warning that the loss of based aircraft will cost the local area hundreds or even thousands of jobs and its economy will suffer.

So far the BRS situation is very low key making me wonder whether the two sides have accepted the impasse (if impasse there was) and have agreed to go forward with the same sort of network but operated in a different way.

In a way the 'reverse flow' will to an extent spread out the arrivals and departures at the airport more evenly throughout the day.

In all this it has to be remembered that people's jobs and livelihoods may be at stake.
 
Alicante - up from 5x weekly to daily
Barcelona Girona - up from 8x to 9x weekly
Faro - up from daily to 8x weekly
Malaga - up from 8x to 9x weekly
Milan-Bergamo - up from 3x to 4x weekly

Gdansk also increased from 2x to 3x weekly lot too long ago.

Still only 2 based a/c however still seems to be a few gaps in the timetable.
 
Alicante - up from 5x weekly to daily
Barcelona Girona - up from 8x to 9x weekly
Faro - up from daily to 8x weekly
Malaga - up from 8x to 9x weekly
Milan-Bergamo - up from 3x to 4x weekly

Gdansk also increased from 2x to 3x weekly lot too long ago.

Still only 2 based a/c however still seems to be a few gaps in the timetable.

Most of these additional flights appear to be for peak summer only - basically August.

The exception seems to be Gdansk that will operate its increased schedule from the beginning of the summer timetable.

Now that BRS seems to be a two-aircraft base from the end of next month about 60% of its Ryanair flights will be operated by aircraft from other bases. I still haven't read anything official from the airline or the airport about a base reduction - from five to two - but from the timetabling there can be little doubt.

When I last checked there were six daily rotations using BRS-based aircraft every day except Wednesday when there is only one evening rotation. Accepting that one or two short hops could be squeezed in to give some four-rotation days for one or both of the aircraft, realistically they both seem fairly adequately committed other than Wednesday evening.

I add the proviso that because Ryanair constantly tinkers with its timetables in the months, weeks and sometimes days leading to the start of a season I may not be completely up to date with the latest offering.
 
Thought I would do a quick check of Ryanair destinations for Summer 13 (May) to see what based aircraft operated each destination.

Please see below:

Destination/Operating Days/Based Aircraft


  • Bergerac Tu/Th/Sa BRS
    Bezier Mo/We/Fr/Su BRS
    Limoges Tu/Sa BRS
    Chania Tu/Sa CHQ
    Budapest Tu/Sa BUD
    Dublin Mo-Su DUB
    Knock We/Fr/Su BRS
    Bergamo Tu/We/Th/Sa BGO
    Treviso Mo/Fr BRS
    Kaunas Mo/Fr KUN
    Malta Mo/We/Fr MLA
    Gdansk Th/Sa/Su BRS
    Katowice Tu/Sa BRS
    Lodz Mo/Fr BRS
    Poznan Th/Su BRS
    Rzeszow Mo/Fr BRS
    Szczecin Tu/Sa BRS
    Warsaw Tu/Th/Su BRS
    Wroclaw We/Sa BRS/WRO
    Faro M-Su FAO
    Bratislava Th/Su BRS
    Alicante Mo/Tu/We/Fr/Su ALC
    Girona Mo-Su BRS/GRO
    Las Palmas Tu/Th/Sa LPA
    Ibiza Mo/We/Fr BRS
    Arrecife Mo/We/Fr BRS/ACE
    Malaga Mo-Su AGP
    Palma Mo-Su PMI
    Reus Tu/Sa BRS
    Tenerife We/Th/Su TFS
    Valencia Th/Su VLC

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