Birmingham Airport - General Thread

[Just Birmingham]

I do think it's vital readers here email both this brain dead MP and the Editor of the article who gave him free reign.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/ne...-third-14733341.amp?__twitter_impression=true

 

[BHXsupporter]

I have written to Mr Mitchell ending my letter 'Please let me know why you have allowed this article to go ahead and make it appear that you wholeheartedly support LHR expansion over local BHX expansion. You are a W. Midlands MP are you not?'

 

[TheLocalYokel]

I have written to Mr Mitchell ending my letter 'Please let me know why you have allowed this article to go ahead and make it appear that you wholeheartedly support LHR expansion over local BHX expansion. You are a W. Midlands MP are you not?'

Ah, Mr Mitchell. Interesting MP.

I'd be very interested in his reply if you get one and feel able to post it here.

 

[hay677]

The article quoted above says:

'The Conservative MP, who represents the Royal Town of Sutton Coldfield, said: “The West Midlands stands to benefit from up to £13bn in economic benefits and around 12,000 new jobs.”'

12,000 people standing at all the entrances to BHX telling arriving folk they'll have to go to London?

It also says:

'“In the West Midlands, our world-leading manufacturing and engineering sectors will look to build on their technological innovations, continuing to lead the world – and supply the UK too - and an expanded Heathrow must play a central role.”'

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[rollo]

I have written to Mr Mitchell ending my letter 'Please let me know why you have allowed this article to go ahead and make it appear that you wholeheartedly support LHR expansion over local BHX expansion. You are a W. Midlands MP are you not?'

If you do get a reply chances are you can file it under waffle.

 

[58terminus]

I have written to Mr Mitchell ending my letter 'Please let me know why you have allowed this article to go ahead and make it appear that you wholeheartedly support LHR expansion over local BHX expansion. You are a W. Midlands MP are you not?'

I very much doubt you will get a reply.He probably regards us all as plebs.Of course he would never say that.

 

[Jerry]

I very much doubt you will get a reply.He probably regards us all as plebs.Of course he would never say that.

Or he'll get a reply that essentially says nothing and is waffle!

 

[Brum X]

Or he'll get a reply that essentially says nothing and is waffle!

And he will be the first to moan when he realises there are no direct flights between his home city and the Big apple. Oh well Mr know it all politician, you can fly from heathrow and soon even more flights from there shiny new runway 3.

 

[58terminus]

And he will be the first to moan when he realises there are no direct flights between his home city

Careful Brum X. Remember he lives and in and is the M.P. for the Royal Town of Sutton Coldfield which if you ask most of their deluded residents is nothing to do with, or anywhere near Birmingham despite bordering Erdington and
coming under the control of Birmingham City Council. If they find out who you are they can be quite nasty that you have suggested they live in Birmingham.

 

[Brum X]

Careful Brum X. Remember he lives and in and is the M.P. for the Royal Town of Sutton Coldfield which if you ask most of their deluded residents is nothing to do with, or anywhere near Birmingham despite bordering Erdington and
coming under the control of Birmingham City Council. If they find out who you are they can be quite nasty that you have suggested they live in Birmingham.

Yeah and to p-ss them off even more, i could suggest they also live in Sutton Coldfield, Birmingham which is in the county of Greater Birmingham as Brum X refuses to use tag W-st Midlands, he he he he

 

[BHXsupporter]

I had a note yesterday from his Parliamentary Assistant requesting my full address, which I supplied. Will keep you posted but of course cannot divulge the contents in their entirety as correspondence with MPs should not be divulged directly (although he isn't my MP).

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Will keep you posted but of course cannot divulge the contents in their entirety as correspondence with MPs should not be divulged directly (although he isn't my MP).

I've written to my MP in the past and have made the contents of the replies known in public environments.

For example, a few years ago I wrote to my MP asking her opinion on the devolution of APD to the devolved governments of the UK. She wrote back with her views on the subject. She also sent my letter to the Treasury and enclosed with her reply a letter from one of the Treasury ministers which, unsurprisingly, was waffle and said little.

I didn't reproduce copies of the actual letters from my MP and the Treasury minister but gave a fully detailed account of their contents.

 

[Brum X]

Great, even our own government are now saying SORRY BHX, YOU WILL NEVER REACH YOUR POTENTIAL BECOUSE OF RUNWAY 3

Building a third runway at Heathrow Airport could be bad for business at Birmingham International Airport, Transport secretary Chris Grayling has admitted.

He said Birmingham would face “greater competitive pressure” as a result of the decision to expand Heathrow.

And the Government came under fire from Black Country MP Ian Austin (Lab Dudley North), who asked Mr Grayling: “Why could they not have shown a bit more imagination and expanded Birmingham Airport, got behind the regions?”

Mr Grayling told MPs that the Government was backing a third runway at Heathrow. And he said the project would benefit the whole country, because it will allow the creation of more domestic flights linking Heathrow with regional airports. However not from BHX

https://www.birminghampost.co.uk/ne...port-secretary-chris-grayling-admits-14747430

 

[Coathanger16]

I must admit I always get somewhat perplexed when it comes to airport expansion in the SE. Whenever LHR or LGW are discussed many people say don't bother expanding in the SE (it's already over saturated, etc) expand in the regions.

What exactly do people mean by expansion?

When it comes to LHR or LGW is means new runways. Is that the same for other UK airports? I'd argue no other UK airport needs more runways besides LHR & LGW so what is meant by expand in the regions? The government have said they won't be paying for the actual expansion of LHR (runways, terminals, etc) and will only pay for surface access schemes that also benefit not airport users/businesses/sectors/etc, so they're not going to invest in new terminals or improved surface access to the regional airports either.

I fully support the growth of regional airports, but why can't airports in the SE that are full now (unlike in the regions) be allowed to expand as well?

From some of the comments over recent years it seems that some people actually believe that government has control over where airlines launch routes and that the government should be forcing the airlines to fly to airports outside of London!

 

[58terminus]

I fully support the growth of regional airports, but why can't airports in the SE that are full now (unlike in the regions) be allowed to expand as well?

Exactly.I keep reading on this forum how HS2 will make Bham an alternative for people flying to/from London.
It always makes me think of the stick Ryanair got when the landed 100 miles from the destination they advertised.
I'm sure these people would rather fly to London and why can't their airports grow to accommodate them if they are paying for it?

 

[BHXsupporter]

Well! My reply from Rt. Hon. Andrew Mitchell was something I've been stuck with before i.e. he has said (and signed beautifully and flamboyantly!) 'Parliamentary protocol prevents Members of Parliament from representing the constituents of other Members and you should therefore contact your own MP (giving me his name!). My own MP is not worth contacting except to act as a letter poster (!) but how our greatest and good have systems that protect themselves from even commenting on their own articles except when another fellow MP asks them the same question as I have - acting as an expensive mailbox is not an efficient system.

He did send the article to me in hard copy whose url is:

https://politicshome.com/news/uk/tr...eathrow/95623/andrew-mitchell-mp-uk-needs-hub

 

[Kevin Farnell]

Birmingham which is in the county of Greater Birmingham as Brum X refuses to use tag W-st Midlands

My late Father also refused to recognise the West Midlands. He always said that he lived in the same town that he was born in and he was born in Staffordshire (as was I!). He would also have refused to recognise the county if it had been called 'Greater Birmingham'. To him, there was Staffordshire and Warwickshire.
He always refused to use 'W. Mids', when giving his address. Always putting 'Staffs' and then complaining when post was delivered late.
I asked him some years back about the 'Greater Birmingham' name and he said that this was the original plan, but fierce opposition form Walsall, Wolverhampton and Sandwell ended that.
For me, I identify with Staffordshire. The house I was born in (my Gran's) and the family home my Dad built were both in Staffordshire. They are now both in the W.Mids (they are literally a stones throw apart). The new Staffordshire border is just half a mile north.

Kevin

 

[58terminus]

I asked him some years back about the 'Greater Birmingham' name and he said that this was the original plan, but fierce opposition form Walsall, Wolverhampton and Sandwell ended that.

Plus also i would guess the BBC who even today if there is a news story in central Birmingham will describe it as having happened in the the West Midlands.

 

[Brum X]

Plus also i would guess the BBC who even today if there is a news story in central Birmingham will describe it as having happened in the the West Midlands.

Birmingham is big enough and ugly enough to be our very own. No need to include us as ---- Midlands. If places like Walsall and Wolves want to be associated with a meaningless name thats upto them. I want no part in it.

West Midlands to me is the name of our region, not the county. The West Midlands used in its correct meaning is the area that stretches from Herefordshire/Worcestershire in the south to Staffordshire in the north, so why for goodness sake does our city region/county use the same name ??

Even wikipedia has problems trying to explain the two, they are 2 different things.

Welcome to my world, welcome to Greater Birmingham.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

At least Birmingham is not in a non-existent county. Every data base (it seems) and the majority of business letters we receive believe that Bristol is in Avon. This largely unloved and manufactured county only existed for 22 years and was abolished in 1996.