Flybe

[aviatorconcorde]

Sad times. Big hole to fill at Cardiff Airport.

Perhaps Aer Lingus regional can be encouraged back on to the Dublin route.

 

[Jerry]

Sad times. Big hole to fill at Cardiff Airport.

Perhaps Aer Lingus regional can be encouraged back on to the Dublin route.

Hopefully. The airport will have a lot of work to do and a lot of competition out there for flights from many desperate airports.

 

[Darby]

I really feel so sad for the loyal staff of the airline.

 

[Jerry]

The loss of Flybe means tomorrow Cardiff Airport will lose 9 daily departures and only 10 flights will operate tomorrow from
Qatar Airways, TUI, Eastern Airways, KLM, Vueling and Loganair. Ryanair operate on Wednesday and Sundays.
Routes lost are Edinburgh, Cork, Dublin, Belfast, Jersey, Paris, Geneva and Chambery.

 

[superking]

Well it has finally happened with Flybe declared bankrupt. All flights cancelled and staff told not to come into work.Its been on the cards for quite sometime to close.I feel so sorry for the work force,i do hope they get sorted out with work else whereThis will have a big impact on airports they use and also firms that supply logistics to them.

 

[Jerry]

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[superking]

Well Jerry it has finaly happened with Flybe stopped operateing. The aircraft in CWL is impounded. I feel sorry for flybe staff and hope they can get sorted with work very soon.This will have a big impact on CWL,i hope they have a plan to try and get the routes thatFlybe operated will be operated by other airlines.A lot of flybe routes in the UK are not suitable for the likes of Easyjet or Ryanair as aircraft too big. It does not leave many airlines left that could be operated.

 

[Selig]

The loss of Flybe means tomorrow Cardiff Airport will lose 9 daily departures and only 10 flights will operate tomorrow from
Qatar Airways, TUI, Eastern Airways, KLM, Vueling and Loganair. Ryanair operate on Wednesday and Sundays.
Routes lost are Edinburgh, Cork, Dublin, Belfast, Jersey, Paris, Geneva and Chambery.

Why has the Loganair route to Glasgow been cancelled every day as well?

 

[Selig]

Sorry, I’m reading the Cardiff Airport Departures Board wrong, it’s Loganair/Flybe to Edinburgh that’s been cancelled, the Loganair codesharing confused me.

 

[Selig]

Anyway it’s a massive blow to Cardiff Airport. What British carrier has the capability of taking over the routes lost with suitably sized aircraft, or will a new free of debt Flybe emerge from the ashes of the old company under a different name?

 

[Nuffsaid]

Let’s hope the airport can get Edinburgh restored with Loganair, Air France/Hop on the Paris route, Air Lingus Regional for Dublin. Maybe Eastern can take on Belfast and Jersey.
It’s a sad day for the staff of Flybe and I wish them luck.

 

[Jerry]

Let’s hope the airport can get Edinburgh restored with Loganair, Air France/Hop on the Paris route, Air Lingus Regional for Dublin. Maybe Eastern can take on Belfast and Jersey.
It’s a sad day for the staff of Flybe and I wish them luck.

The airport has a lot of work to do but I wouldn't get any hopes up that the routes will return. Especially Dublin which the alternative airlines for that route have strong BRS ops and they may be quite happy for Flybe passengers to fill their flights there especially if bookings are down due to coronavirus.

 

[Nuffsaid]

The airport has a lot of work to do but I wouldn't get any hopes up that the routes will return. Especially Dublin which the alternative airlines for that route have strong BRS ops and they may be quite happy for Flybe passengers to fill their flights there especially if bookings are down due to coronavirus.

Ryanair May take on the Dublin route but all depends on aircraft availability. Cork is a definite no.

 

[Marko1]

Very sad news this morning and a serious problem for a number of uk airports especially Southampton and Exeter. We flew from cardiff to Rome a few years back and it was a very good experience and we will miss the airline .

as for cardiff I’m not sure where you go from here. The likes of jet2 and Ryanair are not interested in uk domestic flights and the likes of Loganair , blue islands , eastern and Aurigny will or have their own issues to deal with plus any options will have competition for them from other uk airports such as Birmingham manchester and Southampton. Who that could be I really don’t know.

I can see dublin quickly returning either with art Lingus or Ryanair but I doubt it will be as frequent as with Flybe. The rest together with the corona virus I doubt you see returning any time soon.

 

[Jerry]

I may be being a bit pessimistic but the only route I can see returning in the short term is Edinburgh and it'll just mean more passengers on the other routes for Bristol.

 

[Jerry]

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[Pontyboy]

Sad day and a huge loss for many regional airports and passengers. I hope Welsh MP's and Industry are loud and express how bad this is for Wales, Cardiff and the South Wales region. BBC quoting and reporting lots about Cornwall and Devon economies and the loss of Flybe by industry and MP's. Belfast City airport are already in discussions. What I hope is that the airport can secure a number of operators for the lost flights and not rely on only one operator for them all. Spread the risk. The WAG has spent a lot of money on the airport and In a perfect world without competition rules I think Wales should have it's own airline. They've bought the airport and I wonder if they can contract an airline to fly along the lines of op Blackbird with Flybe post EU rules. If Wales is serious about being a destination for business and leisure then it needs a network to span across all the major UK and EU cities. If only Wales had the power to devolve APD....maybe this may now become a reality that Flybe have gone under and many parts are without connectivity. Also, I wonder how many more PSO routes we will see in 2020 off the back of this.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

The talk about easyJet and Ryanair taking on some former Flybe routes has been repeated in some press reports.The coronavirus appears to have hastened Flybe's demise but at the same time means there might be easyJet and Ryanair and crews available as some routes from their regular airports are being reduced in frequency because of the virus effects.

The two questions that remain though are:

1. Which routes and from which airports might be viable?

2. With reduced levels of passenger demand because of the virus would even these routes be viable at the moment?

If only Wales had the power to devolve APD....maybe this may now become a reality that Flybe have gone under and many parts are without connectivity. Also, I wonder how many more PSO routes we will see in 2020 off the back of this.

There is no APD payable on PSO routes so that might be an answer, and not just for Wales. However, until the end of the year when the EU transition period ends the UK is committed to complying with all EU regulations which include state aid and those relating to PSOs.

This means that until the end of the year the UK government could not bring in selective APD rates such as, for example, reducing or abolishing APD at airports with, say , an annual passenger throughput under three million. What the government could do now is abolish or reduce APD right across the UK but that would leave it liable to criticism on climate change grounds and might even attract Heathrow-type legal challenges on the basis that it was illegal because it ran counter to the UK's obligations under the Paris Agreement on Climate Change.

 

[superking]

I am amazed with the posts on this forum. There is next to nothing about the Flybe staff that will be and are out of work.Most of the posts are on the lines of who or could operate Flybe routes from various airports.In this day and age the Flybe staff must be looked after as if they arent it would cause more heart ache for all connected with this problem. We must also think of the staff that could lose jobs at various airports.So in a nut shell routes will not be reinstated any time soon,as that was 1 of the problems why Flybe got into trouble with loss making routes and also a few other issues.
Best of luck to all Flybe staff with this hard time.

 

[Jerry]

I am amazed with the posts on this forum. There is next to nothing about the Flybe staff that will be and are out of work.Most of the posts are on the lines of who or could operate Flybe routes from various airports.In this day and age the Flybe staff must be looked after as if they arent it would cause more heart ache for all connected with this problem. We must also think of the staff that could lose jobs at various airports.So in a nut shell routes will not be reinstated any time soon,as that was 1 of the problems why Flybe got into trouble with loss making routes and also a few other issues.
Best of luck to all Flybe staff with this hard time.

I think it should go without saying that everyone has sympathy for the Flybe staff who have lost their jobs but it's not just them is it? Hundreds to thousands of baggage handlers and customer service staff across the country will face losing their jobs or a big loss in hours including at Cardiff. That's why it's imperative that many of these routes get restored as soon as possible. Whether they will only time will tell but I fear for airports like Cardiff there'll be no Jet2 to the rescue or TUI or Easyjet to fill in the gaps as what happened with Monarch and Thomas Cook for many other airports.
I hope that Cardiff and Exeter and Newquay and Southampton and Belfast city will replace the routes as the loss of connectivity will be a massive blow for the areas those airports serve.