Bigman
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I am told it was an A330 that went tech hence the 2 rescue flightsThat flight number looks like an additional flight (e.g. A321 and B737-300).
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I am told it was an A330 that went tech hence the 2 rescue flightsThat flight number looks like an additional flight (e.g. A321 and B737-300).
There is an A330 parked up here in PIK, flew direct from Palma having operated MAN-PMII am told it was an A330 that went tech hence the 2 rescue flights
Im not sure if this is all true or not, but tonight, in Blue Sky Aviation. It was stated that Jet2 will only have 5 x 300 series 737s for summer 2026, 4 for summer 2027, and none after that. So, 2 to be scrapped this winter, another in winter 2026/7 and the remaining 4 gone in 2027/8.
The guy who posted sounded quite certain.
What Blue Sky has said ties in with this graph released to shareholders (I believe) last autumn. I do believe plans may have changed though now. View attachment 32749
Weren’t the preliminary results released a few weeks ago? Management have been briefed by SH which has trickled through. Latest is that the last 733’s will leave the fleet in 2028 so that ties in with what @White Heather has posted. Not sure what this will mean for their legacy routes to CDG/NCE etc but would seem ripe for a takeover by the orange brigade!This hopefully will be updated shortly with the mid year results.
One has been told most (except the A330's) ACMI will be gong next year. I believe all this fleet plan is based upon A321 deliveries however.
Weren’t the preliminary results released a few weeks ago? Management have been briefed by SH which has trickled through. Latest is that the last 733’s will leave the fleet in 2028 so that ties in with what @White Heather has posted. Not sure what this will mean for their legacy routes to CDG/NCE etc but would seem ripe for a takeover by the orange brigade!
Don’t believe they plan on retiring some sooner as they have just invested significant amounts into some of them. They could of course make a business decision to scrap them sooner but that’s not planned at this time. The 321 deliveries should ramp up again soon with some deliveries possible in the next few weeks.This slide came from the half year results however. They publish more accurate fleet plan in the half year results. Look at the history (they did similar in the 2023 half year results).
I suspect we will get another update on the Half Yearly results in November 2025 which will have a more accurate fleet plan going forward.
737-300s yes will go. However if they suddenly get their hands on more A321NEO if they become available I wouldn't be surprised to see them gone sooner.
Paris, Nice, Jersey will stick around and be put onto the 737-800. The aircrafts will operate 6 flights in a day like the 737-300 fleet. Or they could change their scheduled around.
Don’t believe they plan on retiring some sooner as they have just invested significant amounts into some of them. They could of course make a business decision to scrap them sooner but that’s not planned at this time. The 321 deliveries should ramp up again soon with some deliveries possible in the next few weeks.
Not convinced CDG will stick around, it might have a reduced frequency to cater to the city break passengers but I’m led to believe it’s built around having the smaller capacity 300’s on the route as was Amsterdam which as we know has gone and is not likely to return with Jet2. Jersey will no doubt continue in some form. I think there’s scope for easyjet to base and take up some of the routes that have been lost over the years with Jet2s natural focus on sun destinations and package holidays.
Never realised jet2 had 3 A320 ceo aircraft in op, are they in jet2 colours or leased from another airline?
They could indeed, depends ultimately on what the director team decide to do but plan is 2028 at the moment.Parts for the aircraft are becoming harder to source, as you'd expect with the B737-300, coupled with sustainability concerns and higher fuel burn means you never know. Okay the businesses own the aircraft outright (Thanks to Mesons strategy) still doesn't mean that they wont consider moving that retirement date forward. It may not be officially the strategy but all it takes is a couple of tech ones with parts that become harder and harder to source and that strategy behind closed doors might just change.
CDG will stick around; its huge on the city breaks dest and would probably make similar money (probs more as costs is same but the increased pax count means more money to be made). In winter the route goes onto the 737-800 anyway.
Amsterdam was cancelled due very different various reasons - very late bookings is one of the trends on that route for all airlines making in unviable. And Amsterdam is totally different to the companies strategy.
Jersey maybe reduced but then again may not. End of the day they've built up a good following of the LBA - Jersey route so it may stay at same frequency and more seats. There is no competition to Jersey unlike in Manchester and Liverpool from easy.
easyJet may set up base but I would be doubtful to see Jersey. They'll go leisure and other city breaks and some hopefully unserved routes.
They don't have 3 A320CEO. They have 3 A321CEO that were leased after the TC collapse.
I know that's tounge in cheek but I think the interpretation is the quiet NEOs must be counted as the same as a noisy aircraft despite being quieter than many of the accepted propeler aircraft that can fly unrestricted throughout the night.Base the noisier 5x A321 ceo’s at LBA and use them on the early morning arrivals to upset the protestors, seeing as though they’re blocking the use of much quieter aircraft!
Thats what i thought but it does state A320s on the graph.Parts for the aircraft are becoming harder to source, as you'd expect with the B737-300, coupled with sustainability concerns and higher fuel burn means you never know. Okay the businesses own the aircraft outright (Thanks to Mesons strategy) still doesn't mean that they wont consider moving that retirement date forward. It may not be officially the strategy but all it takes is a couple of tech ones with parts that become harder and harder to source and that strategy behind closed doors might just change.
CDG will stick around; its huge on the city breaks dest and would probably make similar money (probs more as costs is same but the increased pax count means more money to be made). In winter the route goes onto the 737-800 anyway.
Amsterdam was cancelled due very different various reasons - very late bookings is one of the trends on that route for all airlines making in unviable. And Amsterdam is totally different to the companies strategy.
Jersey maybe reduced but then again may not. End of the day they've built up a good following of the LBA - Jersey route so it may stay at same frequency and more seats. There is no competition to Jersey unlike in Manchester and Liverpool from easy.
easyJet may set up base but I would be doubtful to see Jersey. They'll go leisure and other city breaks and some hopefully unserved routes.
They don't have 3 A320CEO. They have 3 A321CEO that were leased after the TC collapse.
There’s a common misconception that protesters are blocking quieter jets at LBA at night. In reality, the campaigners haven’t changed the council’s rules—they’ve just ensured the airport sticks to them. The real reason quieter jets are blocked is the outdated planning conditions themselves.Base the noisier 5x A321 ceo’s at LBA and use them on the early morning arrivals to upset the protestors, seeing as though they’re blocking the use of much quieter aircraft!
I get where you’re coming from but the fact remains that the protest group will do everything they legally can to attempt to stop airport growth including an extension of night flying hours and to prevent quieter aircraft from being excluded from the existing quota. You yourself recognise that if a new planning application was made to change the conditions that there would be strong opposition. Life would be so much simpler without these minority groups obstructing progress and not just in relation to LBA.There’s a common misconception that protesters are blocking quieter jets at LBA at night. In reality, the campaigners haven’t changed the council’s rules—they’ve just ensured the airport sticks to them. The real reason quieter jets are blocked is the outdated planning conditions themselves.
When night flying was first restricted in the 1990s, the council tied the rules to a government NOTAM (S45/1993), which only recognised small propeller aircraft of that era as “quiet enough” to be exempt. Modern jets are much quieter, but because they’re not on that list, they automatically count as “too noisy.”
Even if all opposition disappeared tomorrow, the airport couldn’t allow quieter jets at night. Technically, LBA could have applied over the past 20+ years to change the conditions, but that’s a complex process requiring a formal planning application, updated noise studies, public consultation, and council approval. Given how controversial night flights are locally, a rewrite carried significant political risk.
That’s why the airport has mostly tried to work within the old 1990s wording, arguing some newer aircraft might qualify as “exempt”—a workaround rather than a full planning battle. Now, after years of operating like this, any attempt to update the rules faces much stronger scrutiny and opposition.
Until the conditions are formally updated, the 1990s rules remain in force—and that’s what actually blocks quieter jets, not the protesters.
Perhaps because the graph hasn’t taken into account that the original A320 neo order was converted into further A321 neo deliveries.Thats what i thought but it does state A320s on the graph.
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