Future Infrastructure Developments

[White Heather]

It’s beyond backwards LCC.

How is it Manchester and the whole North West get things built and we just have people infighting to the detriment of our city region/county.

You only have to notice how the M65 just stops at the border with Yorkshire. The lack of any decent orbital road around Leeds, Tram, HS2, decent new city developments it’s endless...

Ive had it living here, before Covid I had the chance to move to Manchester as Jet2 have already decided it’ll become the main engineering base. If the new terminal isn't approved and the role is still available, for my own sanity I’m going, I cannot live in a city that is so incredibly backwards...

Sorry all for the rant but this is ludicrous how our own MP’s are against the city.

I have no idea if it’s even legal but how’s about all the opposition commentators are banned from using LBA. piss off elsewhere you absolute C****

It's been this way as long as I can remember and I too have considered leaving Leeds and quitting all things aviation out of despair that once again we have MPs interested in their own agenda and not in their role to support their constituents. What Sobel has said is clearly straight out of Extinction Rebellions phrase book.
At least the Leeds City Council policy remains to support LBA and not to take a decision based on a reduction in aviation due to the climate emergency which they feel should be taken by Government and applied at all airports, not using LBA as the sacrificial lamb. Let's see if they follow that policy. Remember LBA will certainly have discussed these plans with the Council throughout the design stages and before spending a lot of money on the design team and finally submitting their planning submission.

 

[White Heather]

Does anybody who can contact Someone at the airport think it may be worth an email to see if LBA could potentially send a follow up email asking for support again? As last time they seemed to flood on? Wouldn’t hurt I guess?

also if There is any airport employees on here think it might be worth an email to fellow employees to add a support co Kent

Just for information, I wrote to my director contact at LBA this morning and asked again if they can consider re-issuing the email to their mailing list and the PR team intend doing just that. However, the deadline for comments on the portal is now extended to 16th June.

 

[Aviador]

Saw one of the anti airport posters yesterday almost next to the Leeds Porche and Mini garages and the M621. Are they not missing the point?

 

[Bigman]

I hope you spray-painted over it!!

 

[White Heather]

Saw one of the anti airport posters yesterday almost next to the Leeds Porche and Mini garages and the M621. Are they not missing the point?

No doubt there for the entertainment if drivers queuing at the lights.

 

[LBA787]

I Apologise to anyone who may find the end of my previous message offensive. Too much sun yesterday, nothing to do with the beer...

Why has the closing date for comments been extended to the 16th?

 

[Len Fish]

I Apologise to anyone who may find the end of my previous message offensive. Too much sun yesterday, nothing to do with the beer...

Why has the closing date for comments been extended to the 16th?

Like all climate change supporters, Sobel completely ignores the economic repercussions of their draconian policies with absolutely no proposals as to how the wealth of Leeds, West Yorkshire and the UK, the wealth that puts food on the table, will be generated in the future. We’ve a perfect example now of what happens when the economy stalls. To damage it deliberately is akin to suicide.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

It's also idiots that clearly don't understand the plans. Apparently i'm missing the point as this is about airport expansion in a climate emergency. I'm waiting their response then i've corrected saying there is no plans to expand the apron. Why are these people so insistent on shutting down regional airports? It's not intelligent to have nearly 4 million passengers traveling over to MAN.

The same people that don't think Leeds its self has a road infrastructure problem/transport infrastructure problem.

 

[ls27]

If there are such adverts placed on the highway, I presume that they are unofficial. A complaint can be made by the viewer to the Highway Authority as they are not legal and can be removed under the 1963 Highways Act. The Highway Authorities are Leeds City Council for most roads in Leeds and Highways England for motorways.

 

[Aviador]

To whom it may concern
I am writing to submit my objection to the above application on the grounds that it will increase air
pollution, noise and destruction to a green space. We should not be increasing airport capacity at a
time when we are increasingly aware of the impact of air flight on carbon emissions, we need to
protect our planet!
I ask from the bottom of my heart, Please do not allow this to go ahead
Yours faithfully Polly Lees
Address omitted
Sent from my iPhone

The argument was lost with the closing comment "sent from an iPhone." They want other people to protect the environment but don't want to make their own sacrifices. If people are serious about changing the way they live for the environment things like iPhones have to go too along with internet access and all the other nicaties.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

The argument was lost with the closing comment "sent from an iPhone." They want other people to protect the environment but don't want to make their own sacrifices. If people are serious about changing the way they live for the environment things like iPhones have to go too along with internet access and all the other nicaties.

Absolutely.

I had a similar conversation a few months ago when the ER people were protesting about Bristol Airport expansion. The conversation with the young demonstrator (in his 20s) was civil and polite and I asked him why he and most of his fellow environmentalists were not also protesting about the increasing use of mobile phones and other digital communication apparatus given the amount of pollution their manufacture and use cause.

He affected to be unaware of this but did accept that he and most of his colleagues used mobile phones.

 

[Seasider]

People want to stop things that they don't agree with but carry on with the things they like. Don't seem to understand that people have opposite views.

 

[Britannia94]

Councillor questions whether airport expansion is still needed

A SHIPLEY councillor has joined the calls for the expansion of Leeds Bradford Airport to be put on hold - questioning if the current pandemic would…

www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk

Found this on T&A in regards to a local green councillor questioning the airport expansion. Swear the Green Party does anything to get itself in the spotlight, scared of missing out on something if not.

 

[Len Fish]

We’re going to need all the large infrastructure projects we can get to keep the economy going once all this is over. Most will be taxpayer funded, but here we are with a privately funded one and some local politicians still oppose it. They just don’t get it.

 

[Seasider]

The fact that it is using private capital is one argument the "antis" can't oppose - cost.

 

[Heathrowflyer]

There's no question in my mind the terminal development will be approved...private sector investments at times like this are gold dust. The issue I think that will be debated by the council prior to approval is the altered flying hours as a way of keeping the Greens happy.

 

[Aviador]

There's no question in my mind the terminal development will be approved...private sector investments at times like this are gold dust. The issue I think that will be debated by the council prior to approval is the altered flying hours as a way of keeping the Greens happy.

But without the adjustment to the hours we are back at the beginning. There's a reason why the new terminal isn't larger floor space. Without that additional daytime flying hours it might not be possible for the new terminal to be built. If the council were to look at limiting growth to 7m passengers until further carbon reductions are achieved that would be the best and reasonable outcome.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

There's no question in my mind the terminal development will be approved...private sector investments at times like this are gold dust. The issue I think that will be debated by the council prior to approval is the altered flying hours as a way of keeping the Greens happy.

Not the experience at Bristol Airport.Their latest expansion planning application was overwhelmingly rejected by the local authority planning committee earlier this year despite a recommendation to approve by the council's own professional planning officers. The BRS owners have ploughed around £400 million into expansion infrastructure this century and were ready to spend tens of millions more on the latest venture.

 

[Aviador]

Not the experience at Bristol Airport.Their latest expansion planning application was overwhelmingly rejected by the local authority planning committee earlier this year despite a recommendation to approve by the council's own professional planning officers. The BRS owners have ploughed around £400 million into expansion infrastructure this century and were ready to spend tens of millions more on the latest venture.

The difference there is Bristol was already substantially larger than LBA plus BRS wasn't in a position where the expansion had already been approved through other previous planning applications. This is what is unique about this application. The expansion was approved for the current terminal under Bridgepoint. The groundwork was done but the actual build was never completed. An additional planning application went in to alter the B Hall check In structure to make it more permanent. This is a building that is already in place but it is on a temporary but extended planning approval. Then finally, approval was given for the new arrivals facility to cope the projected passenger numbers of 7m. Again, some ground works have been carried out
Each development has technically started. The approval has already taken place. The new planning application basically replaces the old applications to build a more efficient terminal. This is not an application to further increase passenger numbers. The outcome is far from certain but I don't know how the council can stop it on the basis of calling it "expansion" when that expansion has already been approved?

 

[White Heather]

I suspect that with regard to the change in night time/day time flying defined hours, they could agree them but reduce substantially the permitted movements outside those hours. LBA probably wouldn't need anywhere near the permitted number of annual movements per annum they have now if 0600 to 0700 and 2300 to 2330 became daytime as most of the current night time movements are within those periods. They could probably reduce the permitted movements by 30 to 40% and make it work.
I totally agree that we cannot be compared to Bristol which already carried double the LBA passengers per year. Even with this terminal & the pre approved expansion to 7m we are still behind Bristol despite having a substantially larger population within the catchment area, which sort of sums LBA up really doesn't it?