Road, Rail & Access Issues

[White Heather]

Like lbaspotter says, do the on-line survey and air your views. I got the distinct impression from the stuff handed out at the meeting and subsequent discussions that the 17 will run in addition to the 97, and not replace it. Sherburnflyer92...yes I understand your comments about rush hour traffic. No route this side of Leeds is easy at rush hour. It is not just about rush hour traffic though. Opening up new journey opportunities and links is always welcome.

Although the 97 bus doesn't serve LBA (unless you fancy the walk), just to clarify, the new 17 route will replace the 97 route, not run in addition to it. It is one or the other, not both.

 

[Aviador]

Flying Tiger are going all out to advertise their new services. Just received this poster sized leaflet through the door.

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[lbaspotter]

Just a head up warning. Anyone heading up to LBA from Leeds via A65/A658 the traffic is nose to tail slow moving between Radon Lights and Yeadon lights.

 

[lbaspotter]

Yorkshire Tiger have done a deal so that it will accept Transdev Harrogate's tickets on 747 Flyingtiger buses running to the airport from Harrogate and the area's around it including Knaresborough.

http://harrogatebus.co.uk/news.jsp?newsID=1975

FLYING FROM LEEDS BRADFORD AIRPORT? IT'S TIME TO GO ALL-INCLUSIVE

Leeds Bradford Airport opens up a world of amazing holiday destinations, right on our doorstep - from sunny Spain to the beaches in Bulgaria, the romance of Paris to the hustle & bustle of Berlin.

You're going all-inclusive for your holiday - so why not start with getting to the airport?

We're bringing your getaway closer to you by teaming up with our friends at Flying Tiger to bring you an incredible combined ticket deal if you're travelling from in and around Harrogate to the airport.

You can now buy a combined ticket on any Harrogate Bus Company Little Explorers bus from within our Harrogate Plus Zone and travel to the airport with your ticket using Yorkshire Tiger's 747.

The Harrogate Plus Zone covers the whole of Harrogate and Knaresborough, and extends all the way to Ripley and Harewood Bridge on the 36 and Wetherby on the 70 & 71.

There's no longer any need to fork out for extortionate parking charges at the airport - and prices are much, much cheaper than paying for a taxi.

Adult
Single £4
Return £6.80

Child
Single £1.50
Return £2

Group (up to 5 people)
Single £6
Return £9

Return tickets are valid for up to 28 days, so sit back, relax, and let us kickstart your holiday in style. Simply ask your driver for a ticket to the airport when you get onto the bus.

Follow and tweet us with your holiday pictures! Find us @harrogatebus.

 

[lbaspotter]

Yorkshire Tiger have done a deal so that it will accept Transdev Harrogate's tickets on 747 Flyingtiger buses running to the airport from Harrogate and the area's around it including Knaresborough.

http://harrogatebus.co.uk/news.jsp?newsID=1975

FLYING FROM LEEDS BRADFORD AIRPORT? IT'S TIME TO GO ALL-INCLUSIVE

Leeds Bradford Airport opens up a world of amazing holiday destinations, right on our doorstep - from sunny Spain to the beaches in Bulgaria, the romance of Paris to the hustle & bustle of Berlin.

You're going all-inclusive for your holiday - so why not start with getting to the airport?

We're bringing your getaway closer to you by teaming up with our friends at Flying Tiger to bring you an incredible combined ticket deal if you're travelling from in and around Harrogate to the airport.

You can now buy a combined ticket on any Harrogate Bus Company Little Explorers bus from within our Harrogate Plus Zone and travel to the airport with your ticket using Yorkshire Tiger's 747.

The Harrogate Plus Zone covers the whole of Harrogate and Knaresborough, and extends all the way to Ripley and Harewood Bridge on the 36 and Wetherby on the 70 & 71.

There's no longer any need to fork out for extortionate parking charges at the airport - and prices are much, much cheaper than paying for a taxi.

Adult
Single £4
Return £6.80

Child
Single £1.50
Return £2

Group (up to 5 people)
Single £6
Return £9

Return tickets are valid for up to 28 days, so sit back, relax, and let us kickstart your holiday in style. Simply ask your driver for a ticket to the airport when you get onto the bus.

Follow and tweet us with your holiday pictures! Find us @harrogatebus.

 

[White Heather]

Following previous discussions regarding bus changes in NW Leeds and in particular the 97 bus, I have had an email today from my councillor stating the proposal now is to retain the 97 route as it is, and it will operate every 20 minutes during the day. More interesting though is the current 19A route, to Tinshill, will be extended via Horsforth and Rawdon to Yeadon - presumably Morrisons. It won't go to the airport sadly but not too far away for anyone who fancies the walk.

 

[Aviador]

Following previous discussions regarding bus changes in NW Leeds and in particular the 97 bus, I have had an email today from my councillor stating the proposal now is to retain the 97 route as it is, and it will operate every 20 minutes during the day. More interesting though is the current 19A route, to Tinshill, will be extended via Horsforth and Rawdon to Yeadon - presumably Morrisons. It won't go to the airport sadly but not too far away for anyone who fancies the walk.

I read it was to assist users of the Trinity & All Saints campus in Horsforth. The airport always seems to get forgot during these bus route reviews?

 

[lbaspotter]

Problem been the airport won't allow other competing local bus services (eg 19A, 33A, 97) operated by the likes of First bus onto the airport property.
This is due to its private deals with Metro, The West Yorkshire combined authority which sees the airport pumping money into Yorkshire Tiger (737, 747, 757) and Transdev (967) services as part of its transport plan.

 

[lbaspotter]

The outcome of the North West bus review by First Leeds has now been fully published on its website.

For further details see: https://www.firstgroup.com/leeds/more/outcome-nw-leeds-consultation

 

[White Heather]

• The airport doesn't have any particular love affair with any bus company but yes, it obviously puts money into those operating into the terminal and which bus company that is, is determined by tender. Next time, it could be First Bus again. It will be down to them to put in a tender that beats the opposition and delivers the required service, which hasn't always been the case in the past, irrespective of who operates there.

 

[Bigman]

Looks like they finally listened to the likes of me who suggested changes around Rawdon after all!!!

 

[lbaspotter]

Looks like they finally listened to the likes of me who suggested changes around Rawdon after all!!!

From what I've heard and not confirmed by anyone the MON-SAT (Peak daytime only) 19A route is going to take even longer to get into Leeds than current 97 service. Especially with it been routed around Rawdon Crossroads A65/A658 Junction instead of going up Canada Hill. Also been told that is going to turn around at Yeadon Harper Lane (Morrison's) and may or may not go down town street..

 

[Bigman]

Re the 19A. It is not just about people getting into Leeds any quicker. It is more about residents on Town Street in Rawdon actually being able to get to the Health Centre, Dentist, Library, Sainsburys and the shops around Rawdon Crossroads. A direct bus to Horsforth station will be a big bonus!!

 

[lbaspotter]

Haha. Even though its nothing to do with the airport I'll have me last comment

Will be interesting to see the new revised timetable for the 19A. Lets hope it dose not will run either 5 mins before a no97 or 5 mins after. Also if journeys continue to run half empty between Horsforth and Yeadon (especially now with an increase from 3 to 5 buses an hour) it i'll give First Leeds a good reason to make changes yet again further down line, reason been due to low passenger usage and complaints.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

I just don't get it and completely with you lbapsotter. It is way of simply saying 'not enough people use it, complaints are high so what we shall do is cancel the service'.

If they were thinking about the students; then surely it would be better to launch a new university service from Trinity to Leeds, and make the 97 journeys limited stopping.

 

[lbaspotter]

See off site Car Park provider Purple Parking went bust last week. By all accounts several returning passenger from Leeds/Bradford had problems retrieving the cars.. Good news is that all staff have kept there jobs as the been TUPE over to Holiday Extras after the bough the companies online assets EG Website and branding.

Source: http://www.thebusinessdesk.com/york...ail&utm_campaign=Yorkshire_6th_Nov_2017_Daily

 

[Seasider]

Picking up on what has been said in the Ryanair thread, people tend to exagerate timings etc to suit their own agenda. They will use the quickest time to travel to their preferred airport and the slowest to the alternative airport. It shows how different we all are.

 

[Bigman]

An interesting statistic. The September 2017 passenger figures show a running total of 27,643,000 for Manchester. The ORR stats released last week show that 4,241,292 people used Manchester Airport Railway station. That is just 15% of the airport passenger figures. Just goes to show that rail transport is still the poor relation.

 

[Tarn Spotter]

Do the airport ra8ilway station figures include the Metrolink, I and I am sure a great many folk living in the greater manchester area use this service in to the airport.

 

[Bigman]

More less advantageous news for LBA. Details of the forthcoming May 2018 rail timetable changes are now being released, so details of the new through Leeds-Bradford Interchange-Manchester Airport service are now available. For instance, there is a weekday train that leaves Bradford Interchange at 07:41 and arrives at Manchester Airport at 09:18.

This therefore gives direct train services from Bradford to Manchester Airport for the first time (and not on those TransPennine sardine tins either), which makes the 737/747 bus journeys to LBA even less appealing than they are now.

You could also argue that this makes New Pudsey a handy park-and-ride station for Manchester Airport.

Digressing slightly, both Leeds and Bradford get direct rail services to Warrington and Chester for the first time in donkeys years. In fact, Hebden Bridge comes out of this particularly well as they get new regular trains to Manchester Airport, Warrington, Chester, Wigan and Southport.

Oh for a station at LBA!!!