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[oldendays]

The Conway was on the VC10 and some DC8s.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

Yes so fundamentally the problem all tracks back to the low ground clearance for the 737. Because they needed more efficient bigger fan engines the only way to do that was to move the engines further forwards and up. This led to handling issues which MCAS was installed to try and deal with. Boeing messed this part up by failing to ensure proper redundancy in sensors and logic checking between readings.

With the 737 MAX 10 the gear is actually longer in order to ensure tail clearance to give the same takeoff and landing handling as the other versions. There isn't any reason to believe the 10 would have any additional problems above other variants.

There is a very interesting YouTube video on the MAX10 gear. I'll try dig it out.

 

[rollo]

Avon was the Comet and Sud Carevalle the Conway VC10,707, DC8 and then the Spey for the Trident and BAC1-11. Then it became boring for a while giving them numbers and now its the Trent. Also many military application for the Avon and Spey.

Sorry to digress as this is Ryanair thread but hopefully Mr Aviador will not mind.

 

[Len Fish]

Runway clearance is no guarantee of less tail strikes. The 757, for example, which is miles away from the runway compared with the 757 is particularly susceptible and when loading/unloading the passengers the front rows have to be boarded first, and de-boarded last to prevent the aircraft tipping up onto its tail! As regards the Max I agree it will
eventually become highly successful and will be very safe given the fine tooth comb recertification it’s been dragged through.

 

[KARFA]

Runway clearance is no guarantee of less tail strikes. The 757, for example, which is miles away from the runway compared with the 757 is particularly susceptible and when loading/unloading the passengers the front rows have to be boarded first, and de-boarded last to prevent the aircraft tipping up onto its tail!

That’s a centre of gravity issue rather than a tail clearance issue. The neos are similarly susceptible due to weight distribution.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

Here is the video I found. 2 very interesting minutes.

 

[LBA4EVER]

Here is the video I found. 2 very interesting minutes.

Is that not just something else that could go wrong and once again its another system to overcome an old fuselage.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

Is that not just something else that could go wrong and once again its another system to overcome an old fuselage.

You and I share the same thoughts. I was wondering when I re watched it today; is this something else that could possible go wrong? I think the only thing that can go wrong with it, is tail strikes if it fails to extend. I have no doubt that it will all be built into the performance of the aircraft, V1 etc speeds and the rotation initially from the ground.

It begs the question however - why Boeing didn't build a brand new MoM aircraft to go against the A320 NEO. The A320 NEO already had the advantage to add bigger engines and extend the fuselage due to the high landing gear already in place on the CEO model. I suspect the NEO was eating away at Boeing and they knew it was easier to modify the 737 into a further version.

With them now having 4 generations of 737 is it time for Boeing to end it's love affair with the aircraft and build something new for the future?

This is now heading into a different direction away from Ryanair and LBA. Moderators please do the honours....

 

[a300boy]

The Conway was on the VC10 and some DC8s.

Pretty sure BA Boeing 707s also had conways too !

 

[Seasider]

I believe the designation was: B707.436.

 

[Wardair166]

Does anyone know as to whether LBA BTS is to continue. The destination is on the drop down list, but no flights showing??

 

[IanFarquharson]

Does anyone know as to whether LBA BTS is to continue. The destination is on the drop down list, but no flights showing??

LBA-BTS not on the App at all now

 

[lbaspotter]

Ryanair are to again vastly reducing the LBA flight schedule programme for 3 weeks during Janaury 2021 due to on-going the corona virus pandemic.

Dublin = Last flight Sun, Jan 10th - Restarts Mon, Feb 1st = 5x weekly (Mon,Thu,Fri,Sat & Sun)
Riga = Last fligh Fri, Jan 8th - Restarts Fri, Feb 5th = 1x weekly (Fri)
Vilnius = Last flight Fri, Jan 8th - Restarts Mon, Feb 1st = 2x weekly (Mon & Fri)
Gdansk = Last flight Sun, Jan 10th - Restarts Fri, Feb 5th = 2x weekly (Fri & Sun)
Krakow = Continues to operate 1x weekly ( Fri) - Increases back to 3x weekly (Tue,Fri & Sun) Feb 2nd
Warsaw Modlin = Last flight Sun, Jan 10th - Restarts Mon, Feb 1st = 3x weekly (Mon,Fri & Sun)
Wroclaw = Continues to operate 1x weekly (Fri) - increases back to 2x weekly (Mon & Fri) Feb 1st
Alicante = Continues to operate 1x weekly (Fri) - Increases back to 3x weekly (Fri,Sat & Sun) Feb 5th
Arrecife = Last flight Sat, Jan 9th - Restarts Sat, Feb 6th = 1x weekly (Sat)
Malaga = Last Flight Fri, Jan 8th - Restarts Mon, Feb 1st = 2x weekly (Mon & Fri)
Tenerife South = Continues to operate 1x weekly (Sat)

Ryanair LBA schedule from January 11th to 31st 2021. = 4x weekly flights

Fridays
RYR9078 = ALC 07:05 - LBA 08:50 / RYR9079 = LBA 09:20 - ALC 13:00
RYR2333 = KRK 17:05 - LBA 18:35 / RYR2332 = LBA 19:00 - KRK 22:25
RYR4108 = WRO 17:55 - LBA 19:10 / RYR4107 = LBA 19:35 - WRO 22:40
Saturdays
RYR2493 = LBA 09:55 - TFS 14:35 / RYR2493 = TFS 15:10 - LBA 19:45

 

[JetRob]

Does anyone happen to know the passenger figures for the ALC flights. I can understand RYR are still offering a service getting passengers to and from ALC but correct me if I'm wrong but there won't be many people at all taking this flight in the current situation so I wonder how it can be beneficial for them.

The polish routes the same, can anyone let any light on those pax figures too?

 

[lbaspotter]

Does anyone happen to know the passenger figures for the ALC flights. I can understand RYR are still offering a service getting passengers to and from ALC but correct me if I'm wrong but there won't be many people at all taking this flight in the current situation so I wonder how it can be beneficial for them.

The polish routes the same, can anyone let any light on those pax figures too?

Just had a quick look on the Ryanair booking system. Here are the figures for the passengers whom have already pre allocated seats on the outbound Leeds/Bradford to Alicante (FR9079) flights in the lead up to Xmas. Please also take in to account they will be more passengers who are booked onto the flights whom haven’t reserved a seat yet.

Thu 17th = 68+
Fri 18th = 98+
Sat 20th = 85+
Sun 21st = 69+
Tue 23rd = 56+

 

[ZB757]

You've got to think ALC especially have a lot of ex-pats out there with families and themselves most likely too and from the region visiting, you've got a lot of people here with second homes who also need to visit and you've also got people who are willing to do the quarantine

 

[lbaspotter]

You've got to think ALC especially have a lot of ex-pats out there with families and themselves most likely too and from the region visiting, you've got a lot of people here with second homes who also need to visit and you've also got people who are willing to do the quarantine

And the fact Ryanair have the Leeds/Bradford -Alicante route to themselves will help boost the passenger numbers on them limited flights along with Leeds/Bradford - Malaga, seen as they have no competing service from Jet2.

 

[ZB757]

Indeed, wouldnt make sense for x2 carriers operating flights with 20/30pax each..

 

[LBA4EVER]

My parents are ones that need to fly out on the Ryanair ALC flight as they do have business to attend to out there with owning a property, but there afraid to fly at the moment due to covid and all the forms, tests required. if it turns out we might go into a 3rd lockdown before it happens I might fly with them. but yes its a useful sat service and very low fares!

 

[White Heather]

My parents are ones that need to fly out on the Ryanair ALC flight as they do have business to attend to out there with owning a property, but there afraid to fly at the moment due to covid and all the forms, tests required. if it turns out we might go into a 3rd lockdown before it happens I might fly with them. but yes its a useful sat service and very low fares!

A friend recently sent me a screen shot of the booking engine on the Ryanair site as he was booking a flight from Malaga to LBA in early January. The fare was 5 Euros. Not even a fiver for a 3 hour flight.