Ryanair

[jw2k]

Hi, long-time lurker / first-time poster here. Anyone know why Ryanair flight FR4108 from Wroclaw has diverted to Manchester this evening? I thought I heard something loud flying overhead earlier (i.e. louder than usual - I'm used to the sound of planes flying over the house), had a look on ADS-B Exchange, and noticed that the flight tracked up to the airport but didn't actually land. I assumed that it was going to come back around for a second attempt but the LBA website said it had diverted to MAN (where it appears to have just landed).

 

[Aviador]

Hi, long-time lurker / first-time poster here. Anyone know why Ryanair flight FR4108 from Wroclaw has diverted to Manchester this evening? I thought I heard something loud flying overhead earlier (i.e. louder than usual - I'm used to the sound of planes flying over the house), had a look on ADS-B Exchange, and noticed that the flight tracked up to the airport but didn't actually land. I assumed that it was going to come back around for a second attempt but the LBA website said it had diverted to MAN (where it appears to have just landed).

I don't know the answer but I'm sure somebody will. Welcome to Forums4airports @jw2k

 

[Bigman]

I suppose they could do Shannon in those Tuesday and Friday gaps that lbaspotter has identified.

 

[White Heather]

I read elsewhere that the Wroclaw diverted due to a tech problem, although they didn't know what. A diversion to MAN would suggest that whatever it was, they needed a longer stopping distance?

 

[twevsmiff]

I read elsewhere that the Wroclaw diverted due to a tech problem, although they didn't know what. A diversion to MAN would suggest that whatever it was, they needed a longer stopping distance?

He overshot while on finals repurting flap problems.
As they could not be resolved following a little holding overhead, he diverted to Manchester to make use of the longer runway

 

[chrisd80]

Winter 2018/19 prices and schedule published today.

 

[White Heather]

Not LBA related, but Ryanair have announced today the complete closure of their Glasgow base, with 23 routes dropping to 3, and 300 job losses. Decisions like that, stated to be due to the affects of Brexit and Air Passenger Duty, just show that no airport can be completely secure when it comes to based airlines, particularly one that has, over the years, shown it is completely willing to up sticks and leave if they consider it necessary. It must be a huge blow to Glasgow who are losing out to their neighbours at Edinburgh. Lets hope that here, Ryanair are happy to continue and hopefully expand in the future, but there is no doubt that Brexit will have its impact on many airlines, and in turn, on many airports.

 

[Aviador]

And all the more twitchy when they keep announcing expansion from neighbouring Manchester airport. Although things like Brexit might have an effect on flights next year it's a little bit naughty to use Brexit as an excuse for the Glasgow base closure when they are increasing flights from Edinburgh and other UK airports.

 

[paully]

And all the more twitchy when they keep announcing expansion from neighbouring Manchester airport. Although things like Brexit might have an effect on flights next year it's a little bit naughty to use Brexit as an excuse for the Glasgow base closure when they are increasing flights from Edinburgh and other UK airports.

Usual smoke and mirrors but I would suspect that they are getting a better deal at Edinburgh and Prestwick and came up with this lame duck excuse to bin off Glasgow. Also, in their eyes, it keeps airport managers on their toes and focused on what Ryanair demands.

 

[White Heather]

Looking at it geographically, Ryanair have 3 current bases at Edinburgh, Glasgow and Prestwick, which are not so far apart, which may seem overkill. Logically you would expect Glasgow, as a major city, to keep its base - but it is the one in the middle, so perhaps an easy target, whilst Prestwick has been a Ryanair base for many years and better serves the South West of Scotland.

 

[rmac]

White Heather - you are correct. Prestwick was Ryanairs base for years but moved most routes to Glasgow. Edinburgh, being on the west side of the city is well placed to attract passengers from the central belt, even as far as Hamilton, Airdrie etc. Prestwick, though, is within good range of Glasgow itself, especially the west side but also Ayrshire and the west coast. In this scenario, if you want to reduce 3 bases to two then Glasgow is probably the best candidate.

 

[Bigman]

Prestwick = own railway station / Edinburgh = tram station and rail parkway station / Glasgow = buses. Glasgow has always been the poor relation when it comes to public transport. Just like LBA when compared to MAN and LPL.

 

[Tarn Spotter]

Todays Sun in Scotland is stating that 100 jobs at risk out of the 300 employed at present as not all routes are being removed.
MOL is very unhappy about our vote to leave and I am sure this move is related to his application for a domestic licence. He obviously not had a word with Mr Barnier, who has even left the remain leaning BBC non plussed with his insane Irish border plans, for a change I agree with the BBC, putting forward an unworkable plan, infers you don't want a deal.
Its one thing MOL being rude to his passengers, but putting up two figures to his british shareholders not wise as the CAA badly bitten by the Monarch financial chaos and have to be worried who will replace the British shareholders if we are forced to sell our Ryanair shares as no longer E.U. citizens.
The CAA has also to be worried about the pilot rosta situation and other aspects of their operation.

 

[Aviador]

Todays Sun in Scotland is stating that 100 jobs at risk out of the 300 employed at present as not all routes are being removed.

If that's true, hopefully those who's jobs are at risk will be able to relocate to Edinburgh.

MOL is very unhappy about our vote to leave and I am sure this move is related to his application for a domestic licence

Please, don't talk like the entire nation voted for this. Neither Remain or Leave had more than 17m votes. It was a sad day for democracy when a decision was made by just small percentage of the 70 million population.

He obviously not had a word with Mr Barnier, who has even left the remain leaning BBC non plussed with his insane Irish border plans, for a change I agree with the BBC, putting forward an unworkable plan, infers you don't want a deal.

At least Mr Barnier has been sensitive to the Northern Ireland peace process unlike buffoon Boris.

Its one thing MOL being rude to his passengers, but putting up two figures to his british shareholders not wise as the CAA badly bitten by the Monarch financial chaos and have to be worried who will replace the British shareholders if we are forced to sell our Ryanair shares as no longer E.U. citizens.

Neither you or I know if there was an ulterior motive for the move to close the Glasgow base. It will have been a business move and business is business.

The CAA has also to be worried about the pilot rosta situation and other aspects of their operation.

Do we know this, is that from the horses mouth?

In addition, please can you not use the individual airport forums for discussing politics. We have a specific thread for discussions of this nature where you can discuss it to your hearts content. I have very strong views on Brexit and I have left the subject well alone in the main forums and I would suggest you do the same.

https://www.forums4airports.com/threads/4302/

 

[a300boy]

They have four B737 bays at Prestwick for heavy maintenance.
The deputy head of maintenance is a Cookridge Leeds man who is also ex Dan-Air

 

[lbaspotter]

Ryanair winter 2018/19 LBA flight schedule.

It works out at an average of 54x weekly rotations with some extra flights operated over the xmas and new years period while other flights are either re-scheduled or cancelled.

Mondays
Based AC1:
FR2446 = LBA 06:20 – AGP 10:25 / FR2447 = AGP 11:00 – LBA 13:10
FR4107 = LBA 14:05 – WRO 17:20 / FR4108 = WRO 17:45 – LBA 19:00 (Non Op 24/12)
FR0157 = LBA 19:25 – DUB 20:30 / FR0156 = DUB 20:55 – LBA 21:55 (Non Op 24/12 & 31/12)
Based AC2:
FR1503 = LBA 06:25 – GDN 09:40 / FR1504 = GDN 10:50 – LBA 11:30 (Ops 31/12 only)
FR0153 = LBA 06:30 – DUB 07:35 / FR0152 = DUB 08:00 – LBA 09:05 (Non Op 31/12)
FR1503 = LBA 09:30 – GDN 12:45 / FR1504 = GDN 13:10 – LBA 14:35 (Non Op 31/12)
FR9079 = LBA 12:20 – ALC 16:10 / FR9078 = ALC 16:45 – LBA 18:45 (Ops 31/12 only)
FR9079 = LBA 15:25 – ALC 19:15 / FR9078 = ALC 19:50 – LBA 21:50 (Non Op 24/12 & 31/12)
Based AC3:
FR2503 = LBA 07:00 – FAO 10:05 / FR2504 = FAO 10:30 – LBA 13:35
FR5041 = LBA 14:30 – BTS 17:55 / FR5042 = BTS 18:20 – LBA 19:55 (Non Op 24/12 & 31/12)

Tuesdays
Based AC1:
FR0153 = LBA 06:30 – DUB 07:35 / FR0152 = DUB 08:00 – LBA 09:05 (Non Op 25/12 & 01/01)
FR2332 = LBA 09:30 – KRK 13:00 / FR2333 = KRK 13:25 – LBA 15:05 (Non Op 25/12)
FR5043 = LBA 16:05 – VNO 20:55 / FR5044 = VNO 21:20 – LBA 22:15 (Non Op 25/12)
Based AC2:
FR2492 = LBA 12:00 – TFS 16:40 / FR2493 = TFS 17:15 – LBA 21:50 (Non Op 25/12)
Based AC3:
FR2326 = LBA 05:45 – PMI 09:25 / FR2327 = PMI 10:00 – LBA 11:50 (Ops 30/10 only)
FR2322 = LBA 12:40 – MJV 16:40 / FR2323 = MJV 17:05 – LBA 19:00 (Non Op 25/12)
FR0157 = LBA 19:25 – DUB 20:30 / FR0156 = DUB 20:55 – LBA 21:55 (Non Op 25/12)
Non Based:
FR2047 = ACE 11:30 – LBA 15:50 / FR2048 = LBA 16:15 – ACE 20:35 (Non Op 25/12)

Wednesdays
Based AC1:
FR0153 = LBA 06:30 – DUB 07:35 / FR0152 = DUB 08:00 – LBA 09:05 (Non Op 26/12)
FR2326 = LBA 09:30 – PMI 13:10 / FR2327 = PMI 13:45 – LBA 15:35 (Ops 31/10 only)
FR0153 = LBA 12:25 – DUB 13:30 / FR0152 = DUB 13:55 – LBA 15:00 (Ops 26/12 only)
FR2203 = LBA 16:25 – WMI 20:15 / FR2204 = WMI 20:15 – LBA 21:55
Based AC2:
FR2448 = LBA 07:00 – MLA 11:30 / FR2449 = MLA 11:55 – LBA 14:30 (Non Op 26/12)
FR2448 = LBA 08:05 – MLA 12:35 / FR2449 = MLA 13:00 – LBA 15:35 (Ops 26/12 only)
FR2446 = LBA 15:25 – AGP 19:30 / FR2447 = AGP 20:05 – LBA 22:15
Based AC3:
FR1584 = LBA 07:05 – FUE 11:30 / FR1585 = FUE 12:05 – LBA 16:30 (Non Op 26/12)
FR1584 = LBA 09:10 – FUE 13:35 / FR1585 = FUE 14:10 – LBA 18:35 (Ops 26/12 only)
FR0157 = LBA 19:25 – DUB 20:30 / FR0156 = DUB 20:55 – LBA 21:55
Non Based:
FR9078 = ALC 15:05 – LBA 17:05 / FR9079 = LBA 17:30 – ALC 21:20 (Non Op 26/12)
FR9078 = ALC 16:25 – LBA 18:25 / FR9079 = LBA 18:50 – ALC 22:40 (Ops 26/12 only)

Thursdays
Based AC1:
FR2048 = LBA 06:10 – ACE 10:30 / FR2047 = ACE 11:05 – LBA 15:25
FR2203 = LBA 16:25 – WMI 19:50 / FR2204 = WMI 20:15 – LBA 21:55 (Ops 20/12, 27/12 & 03/01 only)
Based AC2:
FR0153 = LBA 06:30 – DUB 07:35 / FR0152 = DUB 08:00 – LBA 09:05
FR2332 = LBA 09:30 – KRK 13:00 / FR2333 = KRK 13:25 – LBA 15:05
FR2482 = LBA 16:00 – RIX 20:40 / FR2483 = RIX 21:05 – LBA 22:05
Based AC3:
FR2492 = LBA 06:40 – TFS 11:20 / FR2493 = TFS 11:55 – LBA 16:30
FR0157 = LBA 19:25 – DUB 20:30 / FR0156 = DUB 20:55 – LBA 21:55
Non Based:
FR2535 = LPA 11:30 – LBA 16:00 / FR2536 = LBA 16:25 – LPA 20:55 (Non Op 20/12, 27/12 & 03/01)
FR2535 = LPA 13:45 – LBA 18:15 / FR2536 = LBA 18:40 – LPA 23:10 (Ops 20/12, 27/12 & 03/01 only)
FR9078 = ALC 15:05 – LBA 17:05 / FR9079 = LBA 17:30 – ALC 21:20

Fridays
Based AC1:
FR5041 = LBA 06:05 – BTS 09:30 / FR5042 = BTS 09:55 – LBA 11:30
FR2446 = LBA 12:20 – AGP 16:25 / FR2447 = AGP 17:00 – LBA 19:10
FR0157 = LBA 19:35 – DUB 20:40 / FR0156 = DUB 21:05 – LBA 22:05
Based AC2:
FR0153 = LBA 06:30 – DUB 07:35 / FR0152 = DUB 08:00 – LBA 09:05
FR1503 = LBA 09:30 – GDN 12:45 / FR1504 = GDN 13:10 – LBA 14:35
FR5043 = LBA 16:05 – VNO 20:55 / FR5044 = VNO 21:20 – LBA 22:15
Based AC3:
FR2503 = LBA 07:00 – FAO 10:05 / FR2504 = FAO 10:30 – LBA 13:35
FR9079 = LBA 15:25 – ALC 19:15 / FR9078 = ALC 19:50 – LBA 21:50
Non Based:
FR2333 = KRK 10:35 – LBA 12:15 / FR2332 = LBA 12:40 – KRK 16:10 (Ops 21/12, 28/12 & 04/01 only)
FR4108 = WRO 17:15 – LBA 18:30 / FR4107 = LBA 18:55 – WRO 22:10

Saturdays
Based AC1:
FR9079 = LBA 06:30 – ALC 10:20 / FR9078 = ALC 10:55 – LBA 12:55
FR2048 = LBA 13:45 – ACE 18:05 / FR2047 = ACE 18:50 – LBA 23:10
Based AC2:
FR0153 = LBA 06:30 – DUB 07:35 / FR0152 = DUB 08:00 – LBA 09:05
FR2322 = LBA 09:35 – MJV 13:35 / FR2323 = MJV 14:00 – LBA 15:55
FR2332 = LBA 16:55 – KRK 20:25 / FR2333 = KRK 20:50 – LBA 22:30
Based AC3:
FR2492 = LBA 06:40 – TFS 11:20 / FR2493 = TFS 11:55 – LBA 16:30
FR0157 = LBA 19:25 – DUB 20:30 / FR0156 = DUB 20:55 – LBA 21:55

Sundays
Based AC1:
FR2482 = LBA 06:30 – RIX 11:10 / FR2483 = RIX 11:35 – LBA 12:35
FR2332 = LBA 13:25 – KRK 16:55 / FR2333 = KRK 17:20 – LBA 19:00
FR0157 = LBA 19:25 – DUB 20:30 / FR0156 = DUB 20:55 – LBA 21:55
Based AC2:
FR1503 = LBA 06:50 – GDN 10:05 / FR1504 = GDN 10:30 – LBA 11:55
FR1584 = LBA 12:45 – FUE 17:10 / FR1585 = FUE 17:45 – LBA 22:10
Based AC3:
FR2448 = LBA 07:00 – MLA 11:30 / FR2449 = MLA 11:55 – LBA 14:30
FR2203 = LBA 16:10 – WMI 19:35 / FR2204 = WMI 20:00 – LBA 21:40
Non Based:
FR2535 = LPA 11:30 – LBA 16:00 / FR2536 = LBA 16:25 – LPA 20:55
FR2493 = TFS 11:45 – LBA 16:20 / FR2492 = LBA 16:45 – TFS 21:25 (Ops 23/12, 30/12 & 06/01 Only)

 

[lbaspotter]

Ryanair Baggage rule changes from November 1st 2018.

Been in the news all morning that Ryanair are to end the free gate bag policy where bags are tagged at the gate if priority has not been paid.
Passengers will have to pay between £6-8 to take a 10kg bag into the cabin, or £8-10 to check in a 10kg cabin sized bag at check-in.
Passengers whom don't pay can only take a small bag with them for the flight which will have to be placed under the seat in front of them.

Source: https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/...ll-cut-check-bag-fees-reduce-boarding-delays/

New Bag Policy From November Will Cut Check Bag Fees & Reduce Boarding Delays
23 Aug 2018

Only Priority Customers Can Bring Two Free Carry-On Bags

Non-Priority Customers Can Bring One Free (Small) Carry-On Bag

(60% Of All Ryanair Customers Not Affected)

Ryanair today (23 Aug) announced plans to cut check bag fees by introducing a lower cost €/£8 x10kg check bag service (currently €/£25 x20kg) and reduce the volume of free 2ndgate bags which has been causing flight delays, from 1 Nov next as follows:

– Priority Boarding customers (currently 30%) can continue to bring 2 free carry-on bags (1 x 10kg wheelie bag and 1 small bag).

– Non-priority customers can only bring 1 free (small) carry-on bag from 1 Nov.

– If non-priority customers want to bring a 2nd bigger (wheelie) bag they can buy a lower cost 10kg check bag for €/£8 at time of booking (currently a 20kg bag costs €/£25). This 10kg wheelie bag must be checked in at the airport bag drop desk.

– All customers with checked bags can now switch from the €/£25 x20kg bag to the cheaper €/£8 x10kg checked bag.

– The new policy will go live at boarding gates on/after 1 November 2018 and for all bookings made on/after 1 September 2018.

60% of Ryanair customers will be unaffected by this bag policy change, since 30% of customers already buy Priority Boarding and 30% already travel with only 1 free (small) carry-on bag. Ryanair expects that of the remaining 40% of (non-priority) customers affected by this new policy, most will either switch to priority boarding or will switch to traveling with 1 free (small) carry-on bag only, and others will buy the lower cost 10kg check bag.

Ryanair’s Kenny Jacobs said:
“From November 2018, we are introducing a new lower cost 10kg checked bag and changing our carry-on bag policy to eliminate boarding/flight delays. Priority Boarding customers will continue to enjoy two free carry-on bags. All other (non-priority) customers will be allowed one free (small) carry-on bag, and those who wish to check in a second bigger 10kg bag can do from €/£8 at the time of booking.

This new policy will speed up the boarding and cut flight delays. 60% of customers will be unaffected by these changes and we expect that the other 40% will either choose to buy Priority Boarding or a 10kg check bag or will choose to travel with only one (free) small bag as 30% already do so today.”

 

[Tarn Spotter]

What I have seen under the maximum 90 cases on board rule, when we go for our hold luggage the belt is full of cabin luggage, whereas, before only a dozen cases at the most would come down the belt.
What is Ryanair going to do if more then 90 priority bookings taken, they stated at the last rule change, the time taken after 90 passengers had tried to load cabin luggage delayed the flight, that was the reason for the change.
I have to imagine the cost of handling a 100 cabin cases in the hold now too much and passengers must pay.
Really better just to make a charge for cabin luggage and cut out all the mess the staff has to sort out at loading.

 

[Jerry]

Really better just to make a charge for cabin luggage and cut out all the mess the staff has to sort out at loading.

I'd have thought that is what they want to do but may be reluctant to do it because none of their competitors do it and they don't want to be the first.

 

[Britannia94]

Correct me if I am wrong but I think Wow air already do something similar along these lines. They allow you to take a small item of luggage into the cabin for free but if you want to take a trolley case you need to pay. I think it’s wow air, or is it wizzair?