Is it my imagination or do Ryanair pilots flying into LBA often do shorter final approaches than other airlines? As an example last night’s FR2447 flight from Malaga which flew directly over me in Batley only lined up with the runway over Kirkstall at around 1700 feet.
 
Is it my imagination or do Ryanair pilots flying into LBA often do shorter final approaches than other airlines? As an example last night’s FR2447 flight from Malaga which flew directly over me in Batley only lined up with the runway over Kirkstall at around 1700 feet.
On an evening they quite often "self position" without help from radar and usually aim for a 5 mile final.
 
I’ve noticed that the LBA-AGP Monday evening flight is not available for booking throughout September and October. This is the only “non-based” flight and I wonder if this is connected to the industrial action affecting some Spanish flight crews? Is it/will it be a cancelled flight? I’m fairly sure it was available a short time ago so there will be some advance bookings. The plane is used for an AGP/ORK rotation before the Leeds flight and that looks reduced too.
 
Ryanair updated LBA Winter 2021/2022 schedule.

3+ Based Boeing 737-800’s
15+ Routes Served
55+ Weekly rotations


Paris Beauvais = Looks to be axed as not on sale, it was planned to be 2x weekly
Dublin = 14x weekly = (3x daily Sat-Sun, 2x daily Mon-Tue, Fri & 1x Wed-Thu
Riga = Reduced from 3x to 2x weekly (Wed & Sun)
Vilnius = 3x weekly (Mon-Tue & Sun)
Gdansk = 3x weekly (Tue, Fri & Sun)
Krakow = 5x weekly (Mon-Thu & Sat)
Poznan = 2x weekly (Fri & Sun)
Warsaw Modlin = Reduced from 4x to 2x weekly = (Mon & Fri)
Wroclaw = 2x weekly (Tue & Sat)
Faro = 2x weekly (Mon & Fri)
Bratislava = 2x weekly (Fri & Sun)
Alicante = 6x weekly (Mon-Wed & Fri-Sun)
Fuerteventura = 2x weekly (Wed & Sat)
Arrecife = 3x weekly (Thu-Fri & Sun)
Malaga = 4x weekly (Mon, Wed, Fri & Sun)
Tenerife South = 3x weekly (Mon, Thu & Sat)

MONDAYS = +9
Based Aircraft 1
FR6453 = LBA 06:00 – FAO 09:00 / FR2502 = FAO 09:25 – LBA 12:25
FR6454 = LBA 13:25 – AGP 17:25 / FR6455 = AGP 18:00 – LBA 20:10
FR0456 = LBA 20:35 – DUB 21:30 / FR0457 = DUB 22:00 – LBA 23:00
Based Aircraft 2
FR6433 = LBA 07:25 – TFS 12:05 / FR6438 = TFS 12:40 – LBA 17:15
FR6462 = LBA 17:40 – VNO 22:25 / FR6463 = VNO 22:50 – LBA 23:50
Based Aircraft 3
FR5392 = LBA 07:35 – DUB 08:35 / FR5391 = DUB 09:00 – LBA 10:00
FR9089 = LBA 10:35 – ALC 14:20 / FR9088 = ALC 14:55 – LBA 16:40
------------------------------- Spare -------------------------------------
Non Based Aircraft
FR2333 = KRK 10:25 – LBA 12:00 / FR2332 = LBA 12:25 – KRK 15:50 (Operated by Buzz)
FR1932 = WMI 17:50 – LBA 19:20 / FR1933 = LBA 19:45 – WMI 23:05 (Operated by Buzz)

TUESDAYS = +7
Based Aircraft 1
FR6462 = LBA 06:00 – VNO 10:45 / FR6463 = VNO 11:10 – LBA 12:10
FR9089 = LBA 13:05 – ALC 16:50 / FR9088 = ALC 17:25 – LBA 19:10
FR5392 = LBA 21:30 – DUB 22:30 / FR5391 = DUB 22:55 – LBA 23:55
Based Aircraft 2
FR0456 = LBA 06:50 – DUB 07:50 / FR0457 = DUB 08:25 – LBA 09:25
FR4107 = LBA 09:50 – WRO 12:55 / FR4108 = WRO 13:20 – LBA 14:35
FR2332 = LBA 15:40 – KRK 19:05 / FR2333 = KRK 19:30 – LBA 21:05
Based Aircraft 3
------------------------------- Spare -------------------------------------
------------------------------- Spare -------------------------------------
Non Based Aircraft
FR3283 = GDN 14:40 – LBA 16:05 / FR3286 = LBA 16:30 – GDN 19:40 (Operated by Buzz)

WEDNESDAYS = +6
Based Aircraft 1
FR2332 = LBA 06:00 – KRK 09:25 / FR2333 = KRK 09:50 – LBA 11:25
FR6441 = LBA 12:10 – FUE 16:30 / FR6448 = FUE 17:05 – LBA 21:25
Based Aircraft 2
FR6439 = LBA 06:45 – RIX 11:25 / FR6440 = RIX 11:50 – LBA 12:45
FR6454 = LBA 13:40 – AGP 17:40 / FR6455 = AGP 18:15 – LBA 20:25
FR0157 = LBA 20:50 – DUB 21:45 / FR0156 = DUB 22:15 – LBA 23:15
Based Aircraft 3
------------------------------- Spare -------------------------------------
------------------------------- Spare -------------------------------------
Non Based Aircraft
FR9078 = ALC 17:05 – LBA 18:55 / FR9079 = LBA 19:20 – ALC 23:05

THURSDAYS = +4
Based Aircraft 1
FR6433 = LBA 06:15 – TFS 10:55 / FR6438 = TFS 11:30 – LBA 16:05
FR2332 = LBA 17:10 – KRK 20:35 / FR2333 = KRK 21:00 – LBA 22:35
Based Aircraft 2
FR6449 = LBA 07:55 – ACE 12:15 / FR6450 = ACE 12:50 – LBA 17:10
FR0157 = LBA 20:35 – DUB 21:35 / FR0156 = DUB 22:05 – LBA 23:05
Based Aircraft 3
------------------------------- Spare -------------------------------------
------------------------------- Spare -------------------------------------

FRIDAYS = +10
Based Aircraft 1
FR1933 = LBA 06:00 – WMI 09:20 / FR1932 = WMI 09:45 – LBA 11:15
FR0456 = LBA 13:50 – DUB 14:50 / FR0457 = DUB 15:15 – LBA 16:15
FR6454 = LBA 17:05 – AGP 21:05 / FR6455 = AGP 21:40 – LBA 23:50
Based Aircraft 2
FR6453 = LBA 07:00 – FAO 10:00 / FR2505 = FAO 10:25 – LBA 13:25
FR5041 = LBA 15:40 – BTS 19:05 / FR5042 = BTS 19:30 – LBA 21:00
FR5392 = LBA 21:25 – DUB 22:25 / FR5391 = DUB 22:50 – LBA 23:50
Based Aircraft 3
FR6449 = LBA 07:25 – ACE 11:45 / FR6450 = ACE 12:20 – LBA 16:40
FR9089 = LBA 17:40 – ALC 21:25 / FR9088 = ALC 22:00 – LBA 23:50
Non Based Aircraft
FR7944 = POZ 12:05 – LBA 13:20 / FR7945 = LBA 13:45 – POZ 17:00 (Operated by Buzz)
FR3283 = GDN 15:15 – LBA 16:40 / FR3286 = LBA 17:05 – GDN 20:15 (Operated by Buzz)

SATURDAYS = +8
Based Aircraft 1
FR0456 = LBA 06:00 – DUB 07:00 / FR0152 = DUB 07:25 – LBA 08:25
------------------------------- Spare -------------------------------------
FR0157 = LBA 14:50 – DUB 15:50 / FR0156 = DUB 16:15 – LBA 17:15
FR9089 = LBA 17:40 – ALC 21:25 / FR9088 = ALC 22:00 – LBA 23:50
Based Aircraft 2
FR6441 = LBA 06:05 – FUE 10:25 / FR6448 = FUE 11:05 – LBA 15:25
FR4107 = LBA 16:20 – WRO 19:25 / FR4108 = WRO 19:50 – LBA 21:05
FR5392 = LBA 21:30 – DUB 22:30 / FR5391 = DUB 22:55 – LBA 23:55
Based Aircraft 3
FR6433 = LBA 06:30 – TFS 11:10 / FR6438 = TFS 11:45 – LBA 16:20
FR2332 = LBA 17:25 – KRK 20:50 / FR2333 = KRK 21:15 – LBA 22:50

SUNDAYS = +11

Based Aircraft 1
FR6462 = LBA 06:15 – VNO 11:00 / FR6463 = VNO 11:25 – LBA 12:25
FR0456 = LBA 12:55 – DUB 13:55 / FR0156 = DUB 14:20 – LBA 15:20
FR5041 = LBA 16:20 – BTS 19:45 / FR5042 = BTS 20:25 – LBA 21:55
Based Aircraft 2
FR6439 = LBA 06:30 – RIX 11:10 / FR6440 = RIX 11:35 – LBA 12:30
FR6454 = LBA 13:20 – AGP 17:20 / FR6455 = AGP 17:55 – LBA 20:05
FR0157 = LBA 20:45 – DUB 21:45 / FR0156 = DUB 22:15 – LBA 23:15
Based Aircraft 3
FR9089 = LBA 06:40 – ALC 10:25 / FR9088 = ALC 11:00 – LBA 12:50
FR6449 = LBA 13:40 – ACE 18:00 / FR6450 = ACE 18:35 – LBA 22:55
Non Based Aircraft
FR5391 = DUB 06:10 – LBA 07:10 / FR5392 = LBA 07:35 – DUB 08:35
FR3283 = GDN 07:05 – LBA 08:30 / FR3286 = LBA 08:55 – GDN 12:05 (Operated by Buzz)
FR7944 = POZ 17:15 – LBA 18:30 / FR7945 = LBA 18:55 – POZ 22:10 (Operated by Buzz)
 
Ryanair breakdown truck Learjet M-ABJA took off from LBA around 10 minutes ago and it can’t be coincidence that the Ryanair flight to Malaga FR2446 operated by 738 EI-DHE has just left LBA over eight hours late.
 
With 137 Max200’s on order could we see additional based aircraft or two at LBA? Plenty of routes available and all the Eastern Europe stuff from DSA if it shuts.

Plus another order soon as replacements of 800’s. I can either see more Max200’s, bigger aircraft and Max9 or the A320/1NEO.

Also need to add that Ryanair UK will swell post December 2022 something today to do with the Brexit arrangements. It's to do with the licensing of Pilots.
 
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Ryanair have added the following 18+ extra rotations during the Christmas & New Years festive period.


Tuesday 20th, 27th Dec & Jan 3rd
FR0157 = LBA 16:50 – DUB 17:50 / FR0156 = DUB 18:15 – LBA 19:15

Wednesday’s 21st, 28th Dec & Jan 4th
FR0157 = LBA 18:00 – DUB 19:00 / FR0156 = DUB 19:30 – LBA 20:30
FR6433 = LBA 06:05 – TFS 10:45 / FR6438 = TFS 11:40 – LBA 16:20

Thursday’s 22nd, 29th Dec & Jan 5th
FR9089 = LBA 16:10 – ALC 19:55 / FR9088 = ALC 20:30 – LBA 22:20
FR6441 = LBA 06:05 – FUE 10:25 / FR6448 = FUE 11:00 – LBA 15:20

Friday’s 23rd, 30th Dec & Jan 6th
FR2333 = KRK 10:25 – LBA 12:00 / FR2332 = LBA 12:25 – KRK 15:50 Operated by Buzz
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And here's how Ryanair's fully updated Leeds/Bradford Winter 2022/2023 Schedule looks.

3+ Based Boeing 737-800’s
15+ Routes Served
53+ Weekly rotations
18+ Extra departures for Christmas & New Years added

Dublin = 13x weekly = (3x daily Sat-Sun, 2x daily Tue, Fri & 1x Mon, Wed-Thu)
Riga = 2x weekly (Wed & Sun)
Vilnius = 2x weekly (Tue & Sun)
Gdansk = 3x weekly (Tue, Fri & Sun)
Krakow = 5x weekly (Mon-Thu & Sat)
Poznan = 2x weekly (Fri & Sun)
Warsaw Modlin = 2x weekly = (Mon & Fri)
Wroclaw = 2x weekly (Tue & Sat)
Faro = 2x weekly (Mon & Fri)
Bratislava = 2x weekly (Fri & Sun)
Alicante = 6x weekly (Mon-Wed & Fri-Sun)
Fuerteventura = 2x weekly (Wed & Sat)
Arrecife = 3x weekly (Thu-Fri & Sun)
Malaga = 4x weekly (Mon, Wed, Fri & Sun)
Tenerife South = 3x weekly (Mon, Thu & Sat)

MONDAYS
Based Aircraft 1
FR6453 = LBA 06:00 – FAO 09:00 / FR2502 = FAO 09:25 – LBA 12:25
FR6454 = LBA 13:25 – AGP 17:25 / FR6455 = AGP 18:00 – LBA 20:10
Based Aircraft 2
FR6433 = LBA 07:25 – TFS 12:05 / FR6438 = TFS 12:40 – LBA 17:15
Based Aircraft 3
FR5392 = LBA 07:35 – DUB 08:35 / FR5391 = DUB 09:00 – LBA 10:00
FR9089 = LBA 10:35 – ALC 14:20 / FR9088 = ALC 14:55 – LBA 16:45
Non Based Aircraft
FR2333 = KRK 10:25 – LBA 12:00 / FR2332 = LBA 12:25 – KRK 15:50 Operated by Buzz
FR1932 = WMI 17:50 – LBA 19:20 / FR1933 = LBA 19:45 – WMI 23:05 Operated by Buzz

TUESDAYS
Based Aircraft 1
FR6462 = LBA 06:00 – VNO 10:45 / FR6463 = VNO 11:10 – LBA 12:10
FR9089 = LBA 13:05 – ALC 16:50 / FR9088 = ALC 17:25 – LBA 19:15
FR5392 = LBA 20:10 – DUB 21:10 / FR5391 = DUB 21:35 – LBA 22:35
Based Aircraft 2
FR0456 = LBA 06:50 – DUB 07:50 / FR0457 = DUB 08:25 – LBA 09:25
FR4107 = LBA 09:50 – WRO 12:55 / FR4108 = WRO 13:20 – LBA 14:35
FR0157 = LBA 16:50 – DUB 17:50 / FR0156 = DUB 18:15 – LBA 19:15 Ops 20/12-03/01
Based Aircraft 3
FR2332 = LBA 15:40 – KRK 19:05 / FR2333 = KRK 19:30 – LBA 21:05
Non Based Aircraft
FR3283 = GDN 14:40 – LBA 16:05 / FR3286 = LBA 16:30 – GDN 19:40 Operated by Buzz

WEDNESDAYS
Based Aircraft 1
FR2332 = LBA 06:00 – KRK 09:25 / FR2333 = KRK 09:50 – LBA 11:25
FR6441 = LBA 12:10 – FUE 16:30 / FR6448 = FUE 17:05 – LBA 21:25
Based Aircraft 2
FR6439 = LBA 06:05 – RIX 10:45 / FR6440 = RIX 11:10 – LBA 12:05
FR6454 = LBA 12:55 – AGP 16:55 / FR6455 = AGP 17:30 – LBA 19:40
FR0157 = LBA 20:05 – DUB 21:05 / FR0156 = DUB 21:30 – LBA 22:30
Based Aircraft 3
FR6433 = LBA 06:05 – TFS 10:45 / FR6438 = TFS 11:40 – LBA 16:20 Ops 21/12-04/01
FR0157 = LBA 18:00 – DUB 19:00 / FR0156 = DUB 19:30 – LBA 20:30 Ops 21/12-04/01
Non Based Aircraft
FR9078 = ALC 17:05 – LBA 18:55 / FR9079 = LBA 19:20 – ALC 23:05

THURSDAYS
Based Aircraft 1
FR6433 = LBA 06:15 – TFS 10:55 / FR6438 = TFS 11:30 – LBA 16:05
FR2332 = LBA 17:10 – KRK 20:35 / FR2333 = KRK 21:00 – LBA 22:35
Based Aircraft 2
FR6449 = LBA 07:55 – ACE 12:15 / FR6450 = ACE 12:50 – LBA 17:10
FR0157 = LBA 19:50 – DUB 20:50 / FR0156 = DUB 21:20 – LBA 22:20
Based Aircraft 3
FR6441 = LBA 06:05 – FUE 10:25 / FR6448 = FUE 11:00 – LBA 15:20 Ops 22/12-05/01
FR9089 = LBA 16:10 – ALC 19:55 / FR9088 = ALC 20:30 – LBA 22:20 Ops 22/12-05/01

FRIDAYS
Based Aircraft 1
FR1933 = LBA 06:00 – WMI 09:20 / FR1932 = WMI 09:45 – LBA 11:15
FR0456 = LBA 12:30 – DUB 13:30 / FR0457 = DUB 14:00 – LBA 15:00
FR6454 = LBA 15:45 – AGP 19:45 / FR6455 = AGP 20:20 – LBA 22:30
Based Aircraft 2
FR6449 = LBA 06:15 – ACE 10:35 / FR6450 = ACE 11:10 – LBA 15:30
FR9089 = LBA 16:20 – ALC 20:05 / FR9088 = ALC 20:40 – LBA 22:30
Based Aircraft 3
FR6453 = LBA 07:00 – FAO 10:00 / FR2505 = FAO 10:25 – LBA 13:25
FR5041 = LBA 14:20 – BTS 17:45 / FR5042 = BTS 18:10 – LBA 19:40
FR5392 = LBA 20:10 – DUB 21:10 / FR5391 = DUB 21:35 – LBA 22:35
Non Based Aircraft
FR2333 = KRK 10:25 – LBA 12:00 / FR2332 = LBA 12:25 – KRK 15:50 Ops 23/12-06/01 Operated by Buzz
FR7944 = POZ 12:05 – LBA 13:20 / FR7945 = LBA 13:45 – POZ 17:00 Operated by Buzz
FR3283 = GDN 15:15 – LBA 16:40 / FR3286 = LBA 17:05 – GDN 20:15 Operated by Buzz

SATURDAYS
Based Aircraft 1
FR0456 = LBA 06:00 – DUB 07:00 / FR0152 = DUB 07:25 – LBA 08:25
FR0157 = LBA 14:50 – DUB 15:50 / FR0156 = DUB 16:15 – LBA 17:15 Non op 24/12-31/12
FR9089 = LBA 17:40 – ALC 21:25 / FR9088 = ALC 22:00 – LBA 23:50 Non op 24/12-31/12
FR9089 = LBA 08:50 – ALC 12:35 / FR9088 = ALC 13:10 – LBA 15:00 Ops 24/12
FR0157 = LBA 15:45 – DUB 16:40 / FR0156 = DUB 17:05 – LBA 18:10 Ops 24/12
FR0157 = LBA 12:25 – DUB 13:25 / FR0156 = DUB 13:50 – LBA 14:50 Ops 31/12
FR0157 = LBA 15:15 – ALC 19:00 / FR0156 = DUB 19:35 – LBA 21:25 Ops 31/12
Based Aircraft 2
FR6441 = LBA 06:05 – FUE 10:25 / FR6448 = FUE 11:05 – LBA 15:25
FR4107 = LBA 16:10 – WRO 19:15 / FR4108 = WRO 19:40 – LBA 20:55 Non op 24/12
FR5392 = LBA 21:30 – DUB 22:30 / FR5391 = DUB 22:55 – LBA 23:55 Non op 24/12-31/12
Based Aircraft 3
FR6433 = LBA 06:30 – TFS 11:10 / FR6438 = TFS 11:45 – LBA 16:20
FR2332 = LBA 17:25 – KRK 20:50 / FR2333 = KRK 21:15 – LBA 22:50 Non op 24/12

SUNDAYS
Based Aircraft 1
FR6462 = LBA 06:15 – VNO 11:00 / FR6463 = VNO 11:25 – LBA 12:25 Non op 25/12
FR0456 = LBA 12:55 – DUB 13:55 / FR0156 = DUB 14:20 – LBA 15:20 Non op 25/12
FR5041 = LBA 16:20 – BTS 19:45 / FR5042 = BTS 20:25 – LBA 21:55 Non op 25/12
Based Aircraft 2
FR6439 = LBA 06:30 – RIX 11:10 / FR6440 = RIX 11:35 – LBA 12:30 Non op 25/12
FR6454 = LBA 13:20 – AGP 17:20 / FR6455 = AGP 17:55 – LBA 20:05 Non op 25/12
FR0157 = LBA 20:45 – DUB 21:45 / FR0156 = DUB 22:15 – LBA 23:15 Non op 25/12
Based Aircraft 3
FR9089 = LBA 06:40 – ALC 10:25 / FR9088 = ALC 11:00 – LBA 12:50 Non op 25/12
FR6449 = LBA 13:40 – ACE 18:00 / FR6450 = ACE 18:35 – LBA 22:55 Non op 25/12
Non Based Aircraft
FR5391 = DUB 06:10 – LBA 07:10 / FR5392 = LBA 07:35 – DUB 08:35 Non op 25/12-01/01
FR3283 = GDN 07:05 – LBA 08:30 / FR3286 = LBA 08:55 – GDN 12:05 Non op 25/12 Operated by Buzz
FR7944 = POZ 17:15 – LBA 18:30 / FR7945 = LBA 18:55 – POZ 22:10 Non op 25/12 Operated by Buzz
 
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Appears they have still not reacted to Wizz (In a reduction or increased flying) I'm sure they will be watching carefully though.
Let's not forget though that as far as the Eastern European routes are concerned, the LBA catchment area has just grown substantially. Pax from South Yorkshire and beyond will now be looking at LBA options rather than mainly DSA/Wizz. So there's a bigger market and it's now a straight fight between Ryanair and Wizz. There's enough pax out there for both to operate with existing loads. The issue is, will one airline encroach on the other and pinch pax? Fares and timings will be critical.
 
Think they'll have got one eye on it for sure. What affect on Yield/Revenue/Profit will Wizz have on their routes if any?

Gotta remember also; Wizz Air timings are unattractive on the whole if your wanting to do a round trip with them to for example Krakow. Going from Leeds are excellent, competitive with Jet2, but returning I'd be much more inclined to use Jet2/Ryanair with a better late morning/mid afternoon timed flight. Or even evening.
 
What they will pick up however @Ap1995 is the tourism market as a side business. Especially from a wealthier catchment.

I've looked at Cluj Noproca - looks very interesting visit for a couple of days. It's a shame those timings are so god damn awful.

Let's not forget though that as far as the Eastern European routes are concerned, the LBA catchment area has just grown substantially. Pax from South Yorkshire and beyond will now be looking at LBA options rather than mainly DSA/Wizz. So there's a bigger market and it's now a straight fight between Ryanair and Wizz. There's enough pax out there for both to operate with existing loads. The issue is, will one airline encroach on the other and pinch pax? Fares and timings will be critical.

Or the East Midlands option with Ryanair? With DSA shutting LBA's main rival now is EMA. Especially for the South Yorkshire market where it's neither here or there in commute time. With EMA you're off the motorway, into a car park and in check in. With LBA you've got another 30 minutes.
 

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