Flybe

[Jerry]

Good news at least in the short term anyways.

 

[Jerry]

Flybe will add an extra 3 flights a week to the Edinburgh route with extra flights on Mondays, Thursdays and Fridays.
They will also add an extra flight a week to Amsterdam with an extra flight on Sundays.
https://www.exeter-airport.co.uk/more-edinburgh-and-amsterdam-flights/

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Flybe will add an extra 3 flights a week to the Edinburgh route with extra flights on Mondays, Thursdays and Fridays.
They will also add an extra flight a week to Amsterdam with an extra flight on Sundays.
https://www.exeter-airport.co.uk/more-edinburgh-and-amsterdam-flights/

Obviously good news but the timings on the double-daily days on the EDI are not geared for a day trip, particularly for business travellers.

Dep EXT 1030 and 1910 and arrive EDI at 1155 and 2035 respectively
Dep EDI 1220 and 2105 and arrive EXT at 1355 and 2240 respectively

I'm not sure whether last summer also saw some double daily flights. If not, I wonder where the aircraft are being sourced or whether other routes are being reduced.

 

[Jerry]

I'm not sure whether last summer also saw some double daily flights. If not, I wonder where the aircraft are being sourced or whether other routes are being reduced.

I don't think it was. I believe it's always been daily in the evening. A quick look at the schedule on a monday in July doesn't suggest anything dropped or cut. EXT has 4 1st wave departures, MAN, LCY, CDG and JER which i think it was last year. So they seem to have fitted them in somehow.

 

[Severn]

So as far as I can work out, Flybe had 3x DH8D and 1x E195 required for its schedule last summer. (However 4x DH8D were based with two aircraft operating half a schedule each meaning either there was a standby aircraft or the spare aircraft was heading into maintenance).

This summer there are 4x DH8D and 1x E195 required for the schedule, and a fifth DH8D will likely be based for the same reasons as above.

To give an idea of the schedule the DH8Ds operate, on a Monday in August, the 4x DH8D will operate the following routes:
4x MAN
2x EDI
2x CDG
1x DUB
1x NCL
1x BHD
1x EXT-JER-GCI-EXT
1x EXT-GCI-JER-EXT
1x EXT-LCY-AMS-EXT
1x EXT-AMS-LCY-EXT

1x GLA is operated by a GLA based DH8D
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On a Monday in August, the 1x E195 will operate the following schedule:
EXT-AGP-NWI-EXT-NWI-AGP-EXT

 

[TheLocalYokel]

https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/100-passengers-five-crew-evacuate-2592934

A Flybe Embraer E195 was evacuated at EXT this morning after a haze filled the cabin. 100 passengers and five crew left the aircraft that was about to depart for Alicante.

It was later reported that a problem with the air conditioning system might have been the reason for the haze.

A replacement aircraft was to be brought in to take the passengers to Alicante later in the day.

 

[Jerry]

Not exactly good PR for Flybe but then swearing in such a situation doesn't help! It also seems a case of one airport enforcing the rules and another not.
https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/mum-humiliated-having-put-dirty-2791417

 

[737 400]

Not exactly good PR for Flybe but then swearing in such a situation doesn't help! It also seems a case of one airport enforcing the rules and another not.
https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/mum-humiliated-having-put-dirty-2791417

Bottom line is that she has no one but herself to blame.
The small print/T&C's are there for a reason and if she had bothered to read those and act accordingly beforehand....

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Not exactly good PR for Flybe but then swearing in such a situation doesn't help! It also seems a case of one airport enforcing the rules and another not.
https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/mum-humiliated-having-put-dirty-2791417

Bottom line is that she has no one but herself to blame.
The small print/T&C's are there for a reason and if she had bothered to read those and act accordingly beforehand....

All we have in any detail is this woman's account. Almost certainly she has sanitised her part in the incident when giving her account to the press.

Too many people 'try it on' with things like overweight/oversized luggage and are the first to complain when they don't get away with it.

 

[Jerry]

Flybe have dropped the London City flight on Saturdays due to insufficient demand. The route will continue to operate 6 weekly.

Flybe's Saturday flights from Exeter to London stop tomorrow

They have said it's because customer demand hasn't been high enough

www.cornwalllive.com

 

[Silvercity]

Flybe have dropped the London City flight on Saturdays due to insufficient demand. The route will continue to operate 6 weekly.

Flybe's Saturday flights from Exeter to London stop tomorrow

They have said it's because customer demand hasn't been high enough

www.cornwalllive.com

How do you think things will pan out at Exeter in the future with the new 'flybe /.virgin' ?

 

[Jerry]

How do you think things will pan out at Exeter in the future with the new 'flybe /.virgin' ?

I think it depends on whether the hq stays there or not. If it gets moved I could see Exeter going like Cardiff and being operated by non based aircraft and the crew base being closed.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Apart from being Flybe's headquarters Exeter is also the site of Flybe's training academy and engineering base. If the whole lot was lost to Exeter it would be a considerable blow to the local economy as this newspaper report indicates, published at the time Flybe was first put up for sale.

Flybe must stay in Exeter, say business bosses

Airline Flybe employs 1,000 people in Exeter and is up for sale

www.devonlive.com

 

[superking]

I used to work with a guy who has a son that works for flybe in Exeter.Word from him is the only thing that will change will be the routes due to some routes not viable with turbo prop aircraft.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

I used to work with a guy who has a son that works for flybe in Exeter.Word from him is the only thing that will change will be the routes due to some routes not viable with turbo prop aircraft.

Ryanair has taken on some of the sun routes.

 

[superking]

More than likely that's why Ryanair turned up in Exeter as they could see how things were going.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

More than likely that's why Ryanair turned up in Exeter as they could see how things were going.

I don't know whether Ryanair would have been that bothered about Flybe if they'd wanted to go into EXT earlier. EXT might have been apprehensive if Ryanair had taken on a vibrant Flybe given the latter's importance to EXT. However, with Flybe's decline Ryanair might work out well for both parties as there is no certainty that previous EXT-Flybe relationships would endure under Flybe's new owners.

When easyJet decided to operate on some Flybe routes from BRS in the early 'noughties' they didn't wait until Flybe might be pulling out; they just went ahead with the result that Flybe could not compete and withdrew its own routes.

 

[Jerry]

I used to work with a guy who has a son that works for flybe in Exeter.Word from him is the only thing that will change will be the routes due to some routes not viable with turbo prop aircraft.

I think it depends on how much independence Flybe gets essentially from Virgin and whether the operational side and training gets taken over by Virgin. The engineering side isn't dependant on that and can stand independently and operate as an MRO business.

 

[Flybeboy]

Understand things will stay same, with some fine tuneing etc etc, like lcy route. They want to conect more from heathrow, manchester so see more there. Talk at exeter is lcy could be replaced with flights to heathrow but this might hit manchester flights, which are one of the best supported in the company. Flybe are trying to get extra slotts at amsterdam for exeter, as now only 8 per week. Their is also empty times on a tues, wed evening. So they need to fill them. Newquay has now got 2x w leeds service plus manchester is going twice dailey in winter, maybe exeter could get a leeds service again. There is still room in the shed to do a norwich service on a dash8 3x week, it seem to be used quite well and they got a pso from it..ryanair have taken over some routes but i understand their will be more coming, with flybes old routes to pmi, faro and new ones to barca, ten, paphos being talked about in the crew room,

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Thank you for all that. You seem to be well versed. I don't know if your user name indicates an affiliation. I'm just thinking aloud - no need to answer that point.

EXT and Flybe past loyalty aside, it would be a good thing for EXT in my opinion for Ryanair to assume a greater role. The almost total reliance on Flybe for scheduled routes in the past was never ideal from my perspective.

Have I read you correctly? Are you saying that EXT-NWI is/was a PSO route? I can't remember that.