TUI Airways

[BhxJack]

G-tuoa shouldn't be to far behind

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

Believe La Romana starts this Sunday?

 

[BhxJack]

La romana starts on Christmas eve

 

[Matt995]

TUI seem to have dropped Izmir for summer 2025, no Wednesday or Saturday flight, so leaves a new gap in the Wednesday schedule, Saturdays "gap" will be taken by the Reus rotation.

I think the SunExpress Izmir flights will be used instead by TUI.

The Summer TUI Dublin base was mean't to be 2 Fly4 B738s, but have now been replaced by Air Explore, so might we see Fly4 back at BHX again this Summer operating for TUI?

 

[BHX492]

TUI seem to have dropped Izmir for summer 2025, no Wednesday or Saturday flight, so leaves a new gap in the Wednesday schedule, Saturdays "gap" will be taken by the Reus rotation.

I think the SunExpress Izmir flights will be used instead by TUI.

The Summer TUI Dublin base was mean't to be 2 Fly4 B738s, but have now been replaced by Air Explore, so might we see Fly4 back at BHX again this Summer operating for TUI?

Fly4 is returning this summer with recruitment still on going with AAP and a focus on BHX this year , TUI was recruiting for Birmingham but ended the recruitment drive. Currently Ascend airways is staying at LGW with 6 aircraft (Was confirmed with me personally when i attended the assessment day a few months ago) but it all is subject to change.

 

[Matt995]

a few TUI updates for summer 2025.

The Rhodes flights on Wednesday and Sunday morning that don't appear to be bookable any more, are still actually operating, so guess they are sold out already!

Only 1 Fly4 Airlines B738 is now expected to be based on behalf of TUI at Birmingham (2 for East Midlands, the other 1 is going to Norwich)

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

Matt .Looking at a random date on 14/09
There’s a flight saying Other carrier with arrival 8.50am and departure at 9.50am.
Is this a possibility it’s Freebird airlines.

It’s not jet2 tui or easyjet and sun express.

 

[Matt995]

Matt .Looking at a random date on 14/09
There’s a flight saying Other carrier with arrival 8.50am and departure at 9.50am.
Is this a possibility it’s Freebird airlines.

It’s not jet2 tui or easyjet and sun express.

Yes, currently FreeBird A320 on Thursdays and Saturdays from Dalaman

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

TUI fly Belgium to withdraw Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner from Brussels operations

TUI Group has announced a strategic adjustment to its long-haul operations, which will see the withdrawal of the Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner from Brussels

www.aviation24.be

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

So with Melbourne removed for 2026
This leaves us with
Montego Bay
Cancun
Punta cana
La romana
Bridgetown

Could we see another long haul route?

@Matt995 thoughts

 

[Matt995]

Ant I don't expect any new long haul from TUI for next year, I presume the 787 will be used on extra short haul flying.

It makes no sense to send a 787 on long haul for 24 hours, only operating 2 flights, when in the same time frame it could do 4 or even 6 short haul rotations instead

600 passengers on long haul, or 1200 passengers at least on short haul? which flights will make more money for TUI I wonder?

 

[IanFarquharson]

https://www.gbnews.com/travel/tui-scrap-flights-america-florida-caribbean-costa-rica-saint-lucia
Tui confirm BHX-Orlando is axed and absorbed into MAN & LGW

 

[Brum X]

https://www.gbnews.com/travel/tui-scrap-flights-america-florida-caribbean-costa-rica-saint-lucia
Tui confirm BHX-Orlando is axed and absorbed into MAN & LGW

And the big question, if they can absorb Orlando into MAN/LGW, will they absorb all the other TUI long haul routes ?

They have recently closed the long haul base at Brussels, I fear BHX could be next ?

 

[nwoody2001]

And the big question, if they can absorb Orlando into MAN/LGW, will they absorb all the other TUI long haul routes ?

They have recently closed the long haul base at Brussels, I fear BHX could be next ?

The very fact that the BHX-MLB pax can be absorbed into the LGW/MAN-MLB FLIGHT without any additional capacity being added to either route suggests more about how poor MLB as a destination is performing…

The TUI long-haul routes from BHX in 2024…

BHX-BRIDGETOWN = 94.8%
BHX-CANCUN = 92.0%
BHX-LA ROMANA = 93.8%
BHX-MELBOURNE = 76.1%
BHX-MONTEGO BAY = 92.6%
BHX-PUNTA CANA = 86.8%
BHX-SINGAPORE = 84.3%

Not heard to see why the MLB Route was the one axed!

With TUI axing two routes from LGW do you also fear TUI will pull out of LGW also out of curiosity? BTW TUI Belgium only had 1x long-haul aircraft flying 3x weekly routes from BRU. The aircraft is being shifted to join the TUI Netherland fleet so very different to their UK business.

 

[Brum X]

The very fact that the BHX-MLB pax can be absorbed into the LGW/MAN-MLB FLIGHT without any additional capacity being added to either route suggests more about how poor MLB as a destination is performing…

The TUI long-haul routes from BHX in 2024…

BHX-BRIDGETOWN = 94.8%
BHX-CANCUN = 92.0%
BHX-LA ROMANA = 93.8%
BHX-MELBOURNE = 76.1%
BHX-MONTEGO BAY = 92.6%
BHX-PUNTA CANA = 86.8%
BHX-SINGAPORE = 84.3%

Not heard to see why the MLB Route was the one axed!

With TUI axing two routes from LGW do you also fear TUI will pull out of LGW also out of curiosity? BTW TUI Belgium only had 1x long-haul aircraft flying 3x weekly routes from BRU. The aircraft is being shifted to join the TUI Netherland fleet so very different to their UK business.

I hope you are right Woody, yes as you have pointed out Orlando appears to be the odd one out, however it may also have got heads thinking at TUI HQ about BHX's future role in the long haul program. Of course they will never shut LGW before BHX but we all know if changes were to be made to the long haul program which airport would be effected first ?

 

[nwoody2001]

I hope you are right Woody, yes as you have pointed out Orlando appears to be the odd one out, however it may also have got heads thinking at TUI HQ about BHX's future role in the long haul program. Of course they will never shut LGW before BHX but we all know if changes were to be made to the long haul program which airport would be effected first ?

Which airports would be effected first? How about:

• Belfast
• Newcastle
• Glasgow

....to name a few UK TUI long-haul routes that have TUI operations that are a fraction of the size of those at BHX!

I'm not suggesting that TUI would pull out of LGW before BHX, im not even suggesting TUI is puling out of anywhere, that was you. I'm just challenging your logic...

BrumX: TUI are cancelling 1x route from BHX, maybe it will get "heads thinking at TUI HQ about BHX's future role in the long haul program"

Nwoody2001: OK, they are cancelling 2x routes from LGW. If you are correct, surely cancelling 2x routes will get "heads thinking at TUI HQ about LGW's future role in the long haul program"

As of 2023 (I cant find 2024 data but) BHX is TUI's 3rd largest base in the UK out of 19, and represents 16% of all TUI flights.

As of the Summer'23 schedule:

1: MAN 1,215k Seats (+13%)
2: LGW 1,033k Seats (+10%)
3: BHX 772k Seats (+23%)
4. BRS 354k Seats (+9%)
5. EMA 321k Seats (+48%)

TUI serves 19 UK airports in S23 with 404 routes; #1 base is Manchester; Spain, Turkey are top getaways - Air Service One

TUI serves 19 UK airports in S23 with 404 routes; Manchester is its number one airport; it is most dominant at Cardiff

airserviceone.com

Now aviation is an unpredictable beast and no one can know the future, but can we not panic and catastrophise that TUI my consider pulling out their long-haul routes from BHX because they can 1 out of 7 of our long-haul routes!

 

[Matt995]

TUIs long haul for the majority of this summer, is only from 5 UK airports, Manchester, Gatwick, Birmingham, Newcastle & Glasgow, with a few extra long haul flights from Belfast & Dublin, June & July peak season only.

August 2025 long haul departures:-

UK Airport	Origin	Flight No.	Dept.	Arr.		A/C		M	Tu	W	Th	F	Sa	Su		Flight Time	Turn Around a/c or Terminal
Birmingham	Cancun	TOM 534	09:45	13:50​		788		.	.	.	.	.	Sa	.		10:05
Birmingham	Cancun	TOM 204	11:35	15:40​		789		.	.	W	.	.	.	.		10:05
Birmingham	Cancun	TOM 242	11:40	15:45​		788		.	.	.	.	.	.	Su		10:05
Birmingham	Montego Bay	TOM 854	09:55	13:30​		789		.	.	.	.	.	Sa	.		09:35
Birmingham	Montego Bay	TOM 636	10:40	14:15​		789		.	Tu	.	.	.	.	.		09:35
Birmingham	Orlando Melbourne	TOM 664	10:00	13:55​		788		.	.	.	Th	.	.	.		08:55
Birmingham	Punta Cana	TOM 566	11:00	14:50​		788		M	.	.	.	.	.	.		08:50
Birmingham	Punta Cana	TOM 568	11:20	15:10​		789		.	.	.	.	F	.	.		08:50
Gatwick	Cancun	TOM 92	09:40	14:00​		789		.	.	.	Th	.	.	.		10:20
Gatwick	Cancun	TOM 48	09:45	14:05​		789		.	Tu	.	.	.	.	.		10:20
Gatwick	Cancun	TOM 64	10:00	14:20​		788		.	.	.	.	F	.	.		10:20
Gatwick	Cancun	TOM 22	10:05	14:25​		788		.	.	.	.	.	.	Su		10:20
Gatwick	Cancun	TOM 38	10:10	14:35​		788		M	.	.	.	.	.	.		10:25
Gatwick	Montego Bay	TOM 044	09:25	13:10​		789		M	.	.	.	.	.	.		09:45
Gatwick	Montego Bay	TOM 052	10:20	14:05​		789		.	.	.	.	F	.	.		09:45
Gatwick	Montego Bay	TOM 036	10:50	14:35​		789		.	.	.	Th	.	.	.		09:45
Gatwick	Orlando Melbourne	TOM 016	09:20	13:25​		789		.	.	.	.	.	.	Su		09:05
Gatwick	Orlando Melbourne	TOM 070	10:10	14:15​		788		.	.	W	.	.	.	.		09:05
Gatwick	Punta Cana	TOM 054	10:30	14:20​		789		.	.	.	.	.	.	Su		08:50
Gatwick	Punta Cana	TOM 074	10:30	14:20​		788		.	.	.	Th	.	.	.		08:50
Gatwick	Punta Cana	TOM 084	10:30	14:20​		789		.	.	W	.	.	.	.		08:50
Gatwick	Punta Cana	TOM 056	11:05	14:55​		788		.	.	.	.	.	Sa	.		08:50
Glasgow	Cancun	TOM 620	09:05	12:55​		788		.	.	.	.	.	Sa	.		09:50
Glasgow	Cancun	TOM 684	10:05	13:55​		788		.	.	W	.	.	.	.		09:50
Glasgow	Orlando Melbourne	TOM 742	10:25	14:05​		788		.	.	.	.	F	.	.		08:40
Glasgow	Orlando Melbourne	TOM 644	11:50	15:30​		788		.	Tu	.	.	.	.	.		08:40	Fortnightly
Manchester	Cancun	TOM 172	09:55	14:05​		789		.	.	W	.	.	.	.		10:10
Manchester	Cancun	TOM 142	10:10	14:20​		789		.	.	.	Th	.	.	.		10:10
Manchester	Cancun	TOM 146	10:20	14:30​		789		.	.	.	.	F	.	.		10:10
Manchester	Cancun	TOM 148	10:20	14:30​		789		.	Tu	.	.	.	.	.		10:10
Manchester	Cancun	TOM 192	11:00	15:10​		789		M	.	.	.	.	.	.		10:10
Manchester	Cancun	TOM 182	11:30	15:35​		789		.	.	.	.	.	.	Su		10:05
Manchester	Cancun	TOM 154	12:00	16:15​		789		.	.	.	.	.	Sa	.		10:15
Manchester	Montego Bay	TOM 138	09:00	12:40​		789		.	.	W	.	.	.	.		09:40
Manchester	Montego Bay	TOM 114	11:00	14:40​		789		.	.	.	.	.	.	Su		09:40
Manchester	Orlando Melbourne	TOM 108	09:30	13:25​		789		.	.	.	.	.	Sa	.		08:55
Manchester	Orlando Melbourne	TOM 102	11:25	15:20​		789		.	Tu	.	.	.	.	.		08:55
Manchester	Punta Cana	TOM 118	09:50	13:30​		789		.	Tu	.	.	.	.	.		08:40
Manchester	Punta Cana	TOM 156	10:50	14:30​		789		.	.	.	.	F	.	.		08:40
Manchester	Punta Cana	TOM 168	11:30	15:10​		789		M	.	.	.	.	.	.		08:40
Manchester	Punta Cana	TOM 188	11:50	15:30​		789		.	.	.	Th	.	.	.		08:40
Newcastle	Cancun	TOM 726	10:30	14:35​		788		M	.	.	.	.	.	.		10:05
Newcastle	Cancun	TOM 524	11:30	15:35​		788		.	.	.	.	F	.	.		10:05
Newcastle	Orlando Melbourne	TOM 848	10:15	14:00​		788		.	Tu	.	.	.	.	.		08:45	Fortnightly
Newcastle	Orlando Melbourne	TOM 754	10:55	14:40​		788		.	.	.	.	.	Sa	.		08:45

only 4 long haul destinations served this summer, Cancun, Montego Bay, Orlando & Punta Cana

Their long haul routes are shrinking every year, and I presume they can make more money now on flying the 787s to 2 short haul destinations every day, rather than long haul.

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

Dunno if I’m going ballooney here but I think Tui airways are making changes to it’s Birmingham schedule.some dates not showing.Can some one please confirm and clarify please

 

[Matt995]

the following TUI flights for summer 2025 should be operated by Fly4Airlines, one B738 to be based:-

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

Hi Matt.I just want to know if there’s any changes to the Tui schedule.As I noticed a few dates missing from the schedule for some routes?