British Airways Cityflyer

[Brum X]

Oh dear.

Ordinarily I wouldn't be too concerned, a couple of weekly E190 flights aren't going to do too much damage but the airport made rather a big deal out of BA returning, yet in true BHX style they're gone again in the blink of an eye. Should be a good one for the media to get hold of.

Perhaps the biggest surprise is the fact that they lasted two seasons at BHX rather than the usual one.

Just when are things going to change

When we get an airline called EASYJET

THATS WHEN

 

[TheLocalYokel]

When we get an airline called EASYJET

THATS WHEN

Even with easyJet there are cons. easyJet is now so big at Bristol that there is little doubt it is frightening off other ailrines. If easyJet pulled out of BRS or cut back drastically the airport would be up S*** Creek without any sort of paddle. Next summer they are anticipating handling 5.2 million of BRS's anticipated 9 million passengers.

 

[Ray Finkle]

When we get an airline called EASYJET

THATS WHEN

I've still not got an answer to the question as to why almost every major airport in the UK can play host to a growing easyjet and/or Ryanair base but Birmingham can't, or won't?

 

[Brum X]

I've still not got an answer to the question as to why almost every major airport in the UK can play host to a growing easyjet and/or Ryanair base but Birmingham can't, or won't?

Welcome to Birmingham Stubborn Airport

 

[JF57]

Jet2 seem happy enough and growing well so something must be right for them and not Ryanair / Easyjet

 

[Ray Finkle]

Credit to The Local Yokel for this posted on the Bristol Forum.

Make of it what you will.

A BA spokesman said that the airline is not resuming its flight programme at BRS and BHX next summer, "due to the complexity and cost of operating from airports where we have no crew bases".

He went on to say, "This doesn’t mean we are withdrawing from these airports permanently. We will continue to review alternative ways of operating from both Bristol and Birmingham airports in the future.”

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/british-airways-cancels-flights-bristol-2073985

 

[Brum X]

And BA base crew in MAN and STN ?

 

[58terminus]

We will continue to review alternative ways of operating from both Bristol and Birmingham airports in the future.”

What is the alternative way of operating from an airport without using aircraft with crews? Looking forward to seeing their solution.

 

[Ray Finkle]

MAN has a LCY positioning flight which may well be used to ferry crews and STN is less than an hour up the M11. Google Maps shows LCY to BHX as 2 hr 20 min by road and that is in favourable traffic conditions.

To make Birmingham a success it looks to be permanent based aircraft or nothing. There is plenty of potential for a base but my bet is with nothing

 

[Jerry]

To make Birmingham a success it looks to be permanent based aircraft or nothing. There is plenty of potential for a base but my bet is with nothing

They could do the same as MAN and fly the aircraft in from LCY to operate a BHX schedule?

 

[mullion]

They actually sell seats on the LCY/MAN sector and are doing very well, so even the positioning flight makes money

 

[Jerry]

I do wonder if they'll now focus their weekend ops on MAN and maybe even STN and EDI as well.

 

[KARFA]

They actually sell seats on the LCY/MAN sector and are doing very well, so even the positioning flight makes money

does it? how do you know that? How does an airline these days make money from, at best, 60% load?

https://forums4airports.com/threads/2724/post-150617
https://forums4airports.com/threads/2724/post-150619

 

[mullion]

I didn`t say it made a profit but what I did say was it it is making money which it wouldn`t do if it was empty and also remember it isn`t sold as a low cost flight.

 

[KARFA]

I didn`t say it made a profit but what I did say was it it is making money which it wouldn`t do if it was empty and also remember it isn`t sold as a low cost flight.

It does cost money to run the service onboard though, costs not incurred if they chose just to run it as a no revenue positioning flight.

Lowest basic price one way MAN-LCY is £50 of which £27 is taxes and airport charges. Base fare is £22. How much more low cost do you think it could be?

 

[mullion]

We can always talk lowest base fare but not everybody pays that do they and anything over zero is a plus because cabin crew
, fuel cost etc will already be there because they are positioning

 

[Bhx_fifteen]

They're back!

BRITISH AIRWAYS EXTENDS ITS UK DESTINATIONS THIS WINTER

• Brand new Birmingham route launches

Belfast, Thursday 9 September 2021 – British Airways is extending three of its newest domestic routes – Exeter, Glasgow and Leeds from Belfast this Winter season. Customers will also be able to book direct to Birmingham as the airline further extends its UK network. Customers can book on BA.com from today with travel between 31 October 2021 and 26 March 2022.

Flights between Belfast and Birmingham will operate twice daily, increasing to three times a day on Thursday and Friday. Flights from Belfast to Exeter, Glasgow and Leeds will increase compared to the Summer season at 4, 13 and 10 a week respectively.

Katy Best, Commercial Director at Belfast City Airport, added: “British Airways has a longstanding presence at Belfast City Airport, and its introduction of regional services earlier this year has been strongly welcomed by our passengers who know and enjoy the excellent BA product.

“This latest increase in frequency is superb news for those who want to plan ahead and book winter staycations or weekend breaks in Birmingham, Exeter, Glasgow or Leeds. The convenient flight times will also be attractive to business travellers who avail of can same day returns.”

Full schedule

Route	Departure and arrival time	Schedule	Flight No	Route	Departure time	Schedule	Flight No
BHD – BHX	06.50 – 07.55	Monday to Friday	BA7321	BHX – BHD	08.30 – 09.35	Monday to Friday	BA7320
BHD – BHX	10.10 – 11.15	Monday and Saturday	BA7323	BHX – BHD	11.50 – 12.55	Monday and Saturday	BA7323
BHD – BHX	14.45 – 15.50	Thursday, Friday and Sunday	BA7323	BHX – BHD	16.25 – 17.30	Thursday, Friday and Sunday	BA7323
BHD – BHX	15.50 – 16.55	Tuesday and Wednesday	BA7323	BHX – BHD	17.30 – 18.35	Tuesday and Wednesday	BA7323
BHD – BHX	18.10 – 19.15	Monday, Thursday, Friday and Sunday	BA7325	BHX – BHD	19.50 – 20.55	Monday, Thursday, Friday and Sunday	BA7324

Full Article: https://mediacentre.britishairways.com/pressrelease/details/86/New-routes_399/13371?ref=email

 

[CM.]

Sean M has posted on twitter about the new Belfast City route.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1435900814665699332

 

[Bhx_fifteen]

They're back!

BRITISH AIRWAYS EXTENDS ITS UK DESTINATIONS THIS WINTER

• Brand new Birmingham route launches

Belfast, Thursday 9 September 2021 – British Airways is extending three of its newest domestic routes – Exeter, Glasgow and Leeds from Belfast this Winter season. Customers will also be able to book direct to Birmingham as the airline further extends its UK network. Customers can book on BA.com from today with travel between 31 October 2021 and 26 March 2022.

Flights between Belfast and Birmingham will operate twice daily, increasing to three times a day on Thursday and Friday. Flights from Belfast to Exeter, Glasgow and Leeds will increase compared to the Summer season at 4, 13 and 10 a week respectively.

Katy Best, Commercial Director at Belfast City Airport, added: “British Airways has a longstanding presence at Belfast City Airport, and its introduction of regional services earlier this year has been strongly welcomed by our passengers who know and enjoy the excellent BA product.

“This latest increase in frequency is superb news for those who want to plan ahead and book winter staycations or weekend breaks in Birmingham, Exeter, Glasgow or Leeds. The convenient flight times will also be attractive to business travellers who avail of can same day returns.”

Full schedule

Route	Departure and arrival time	Schedule	Flight No	Route	Departure time	Schedule	Flight No
BHD – BHX	06.50 – 07.55	Monday to Friday	BA7321	BHX – BHD	08.30 – 09.35	Monday to Friday	BA7320
BHD – BHX	10.10 – 11.15	Monday and Saturday	BA7323	BHX – BHD	11.50 – 12.55	Monday and Saturday	BA7323
BHD – BHX	14.45 – 15.50	Thursday, Friday and Sunday	BA7323	BHX – BHD	16.25 – 17.30	Thursday, Friday and Sunday	BA7323
BHD – BHX	15.50 – 16.55	Tuesday and Wednesday	BA7323	BHX – BHD	17.30 – 18.35	Tuesday and Wednesday	BA7323
BHD – BHX	18.10 – 19.15	Monday, Thursday, Friday and Sunday	BA7325	BHX – BHD	19.50 – 20.55	Monday, Thursday, Friday and Sunday	BA7324

Full Article: https://mediacentre.britishairways.com/pressrelease/details/86/New-routes_399/13371?ref=email

Last time they dropped by in 2017 (to Florence, Ibiza, Malaga & Palma), we had 1x weekly flight per destination, i.e. 4x weekly BACF flights.
Now, we just have 1x new route, to Belfast-City, but with 16x weekly BACF flights in total, so four times as many seats as before (2x daily flights Mon, Tue, Wed, Sat, Sun, 3x daily Thu, Fri).

Very exciting IMO! I, for one, look forward to seeing the flag returning to BHX

 

[Karl C]

Someone needs to eat their hat!!