Route Development & Rumours

[Brum X]

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I hope Qatar start but cant see it. With 2 daily in MAN with A330S at the moment but would be nice to see an other B787 in BHX

Now, Now, who seriously thought AA would be at BHX next year, i gave it a 0% chance if im being honest, even Mr Kehoe in a recent report confirmed that the USA was pretty much covered by London and Manchester, never say never. :good:

 

[Ray Finkle]

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I'm also hoping this means Qatar isn't an impossibility. Fingers firmly crossed for that one.

Good point. I still can't work out whether there is some hope for the future with this one or whether it is completely dead :dunno:

 

[thunderchild]

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Good point. I still can't work out whether there is some hope for the future with this one or whether it is completely dead :dunno:

With a oneworld presence there might be a glimmer of hope.

 

[thunderchild]

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Report on another forum of Vueling launching BCN-BHX next summer; Belfast has just been confirmed so watch this space.

 

[Ray Finkle]

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There's an article on the Vueling website which seems to confirm BHX. I'm at work at the moment so can't link to it.

Good news

 

[Brum X]

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A mini BOOM at BHX, lets all enjoy. We have been waiting for announcements like these during the last 12 months and our patience is being rewarded, LOL


So far in 2015, new airlines to BHX include American Airlines, Icelandair and Vueling.

Who will be next ?????

 

[Ray Finkle]

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A bit more capacity going East would be welcomed, whether that be a third flight from Emirates or a new airline such as Qatar, add to that a weekly Cuba and Las Vegas and I'd be very happy indeed

I think there could be more from Flybe during November so I'm hoping there's something good for BHX.


As it stands long haul for summer 2015 consists of:

Orlando Sanford weekly
Montego Bay weekly
Cancun 2x weekly
New York - Newark 7x weekly
New York - JFK 7x weekly
Toronto weekly
Islamabad 3/4x weekly
Delhi 7x weekly
Dubai 14x weekly
Beijing TBC

Totaling 43/44 departures. Depending on your definition of long haul at 6 hours 30 mins you could possibly add Ashgabat to that list adding another four weekly flights.

The Beijing charters should hopefully return next summer, possibly for a longer run.

So with up to 7/8 long haul departures a day it must be a BHX long haul record? If not it must be very close?

Hats off to Mr Kehoe and his team :hatsoff:

 

[User0001]

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Has the Delhi increase been confirmed yet? Even though Air India are now at BHX, I still don't fully trust them until they are 'on the deck'.

Its also worth noting, that, as far as Summer 2015 and the UK regional market is concerned, its not over until at least January. I believe there may still be a few more surprises to come long haul wise......

 

[Brum X]

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Just seen this:


http://www.anna.aero/2014/11/05/turkish ... 4-86869353

 

[thunderchild]

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Paul Kehoe discusses American Airlines and Vueling;

http://www.birminghampost.co.uk/busines ... pe-8060220

Interesting read although I'm not at all convinced that these new routes could pave the way for British Airways to return.

 

[Brummiegem]

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No,I don't see BAW having a physical presence @BHX at all.However,going from zero OneWorld airlines to 2 in a matter of days is the biggest boost to the airport.Just having BAW in the flight code may or may not have a positive effect when booking for a customer but it is the wider world connections that will be the magnet.
As ever we will find out in time if this is a turning point or a false dawn,but it does open up new oppertunities and something that can be built on.

 

[thunderchild]

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Not wanting to split hairs but Vueling isn't a oneworld member, despite being owned by IAG. However I do take your point and given the comments that Willie Walsh made a while back about expansion at Heathrow being a lost cause perhaps, just perhaps, the penny is starting to drop and airlines are starting to see that there is some potential outside of Heathrow! Given the right of kind of marketing and support there are several short/long haul routes that I'm sure could be successfully served from BHX.

I'd like to think that AA and Vueling is just the start; historically however BHX has always given with one hand and taken away with another. But having three new airlines starting up in the same year isn't something we've seen for a long while so lets think positive.

 

[Brummiegem]

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Thunderchild you are correct in stating that Vuelling is not a member of OneWorld,but it does code share with other IAG members,which basically is the point I was making.I admit it maybe stretching the code-share thing a little but I am sure you can see where I am coming from.
While on this subject if successful I wonder if Vuelling would consider opening further routes,or even maybe seeing IBE return.I would love to see some of the other Spanish cities served such as Bilbao or Seville.Maybe even Malaga as I don't think you can have too many operators to some of the resorts as they will always be used!!

 

[Ray Finkle]

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I agree having a BA flight code on this should be a big advantage, I'm sure there must be many BA frequent flyers in the Greater Birmingham area that would be interested, but they must be told first. Incidentally I've noticed this still isn't bookable on the BA website whereas AA flights from other airports are, this is something which needs sorting asap.

I don't reckon we'll see BA back at BHX either but I think Mr Kehoe may be using a few complimentary words to try and get more Oneworld connections in the future. Iberia to Madrid would be very welcome for the connections across Africa and South America.

I'd like to think that AA and Vueling is just the start; historically however BHX has always given with one hand and taken away with another. But having three new airlines starting up in the same year isn't something we've seen for a long while so lets think positive.

That's how I feel, close to a record breaking year, Air India about to go daily and American Airlines, Icelandair and Vueling all due next year but I still can't get excited as I'm just waiting for the bad news :s_sorry

 

[User0001]

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The only way you will see BA 'metal' at BHX is either in the form of citiflyer charters (that they run at weekends from a few airports), or, as a long shot, Sun Air to Scandinavia (however, as someone on the inside, I can tell you their yield requirement is eye watering, so BHX would have to prove itself quite a lot).

Unless there is a rapid change of policy overnight, then you will not see BA 'proper' at BHX (unless on a diversion). The fact is LHR is too close to run a service, and with HS2 on the way, the likelihood decreases even more. Willie Walsh has even said that MAN will get cut if HS2 proves a viable alternative. With the rise of low cost carriers, BA will not hub in the regions again, which would be a precursor to long haul etc.

In terms of the article, its quite a strange one, as Kehoe seems to be talking as if its BA who have announced the flights, and not AA/VY. Really weird use of words there.

Lastly, this is not the first time BA have codeshare at BHX since they left. They had their code on many MAN/BHX flights via Flybe after Connect was sold, and it was only when the last remained shares BA held in Flybe that the codes were dropped. The codeshares mainly covered German destinations IIRC.

 

[andrew.clarkson]

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Hi there ray and all, are there any other rumours of any other airlines trying to agree on flying out of bhx at all yet, Andyc

 

[Brum X]

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Hi there ray and all, are there any other rumours of any other airlines trying to agree on flying out of bhx at all yet, Andyc

This is BHX my friend, it will be quiet now for a few weeks or maybe months (Hopefully not) we have just had 2 new airlines come to the airport in 1 week.

But seriously, no i havent. Obviously EK is still doing the rounds, will they, wont they. A380 or a third daily. If im being honest if they dont hurry, i get a sneeky feeling another airline from down there will get a foot hold into BHX. I dont think that is a bad idea if im being honest. Why should Emirates have it all to themselves just like AA have stolen UA dominance at BHX ??????

Ive noticed Ethihad are bring 777s into MAN next year so that shows growth there and they have always said growth at MAN is first before considering BHX ?????

 

[User0001]

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Etihad have been using B777's at MAN for months and months, im not quite sure why airlineroute is just picking up on the news now.

 

[Brum X]

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Etihad have been using B777's at MAN for months and months, im not quite sure why airlineroute is just picking up on the news now.

Well the quicker they use there 777s at MAN, maybe they will expand elsewhere, aka BHX.

Qatar or Etihad at BHX ????

Which one (And only one, dont be greedy) would you most like at BHX after Emirates ???

 

[Ray Finkle]

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I'd choose Qatar, only because that's the only one with any chance of happening.

Hi there ray and all, are there any other rumours of any other airlines trying to agree on flying out of bhx at all yet, Andyc

There's always lots of rumours but most are nothing more than a spotters wishlist so I tend to ignore them.