ACL Birmingham Slot Allocation

[Nethercote2019]

Airlines also play 1 airport against another to get a better deal & apply for slots they have no intention of operating

 

[JENNYJET]

I suspect that compilers of such lists have to pay fees to obtain information, covering legals, embargoed and copyrights etc., and need to recover their costs by charging end user.

I may of course be incorrect, it is however my interpretation that nothing is free in this world.

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

ACL for winter 2023 has been announced.

Tbh from my perspective is that it’s just EasyJet and fly play are asking for slots.

Ryanair are wanting Seville and Valencia .

Really disappointing.

 

[IanFarquharson]

ACL for winter 2023 has been announced.

Tbh from my perspective is that it’s just EasyJet and fly play are asking for slots.

Ryanair are wanting Seville and Valencia .

Really disappointing.

Double daily Qatar
Daily Play
New Ryanair routes to Seville and Valencia

 

[JENNYJET]

Aircraft availability to service routes comes to my mind, Boeing and Airbus have delivery issues related to supply chain problems. Ryanair seems fully deployed amongst it's European bases so only two requests for a slot does not surprise.

 

[Timberwolf]

Double daily Qatar
Daily Play
New Ryanair routes to Seville and Valencia

The omission of Air India Mumbai from BHX a stand out, if this is the final list ,which partly spoils these .

Looks like AI focus fully on MAN now.

 

[Matty_85]

AI could launch BOM without requesting the slots though right? Airlines are always launching routes which don’t feature in the slot reports… There are more informed folk on her but I reckon we’ll still see AI launch new routes from BHX this winter

 

[IanFarquharson]

Only slots but highlights

Emirates – 2 X daily A388

Qatar – 2 x daily

Ryanair – New routes to Seville & Valencia

Fly Play – 1 x daily KEF

Turkish – 2 x daily

Saudia – 4 per week

Air India – 1 x daily but no Bombay which may well start at Manchester ahead of us.

Wizz – 27 per week but saying they are cancelling Craovia, a route they have just added an extra weekly rotation for in the Winter.

It looks like Vueling had plans for Lisbon but now canx

Ryanair requested and got approved 10,694 slots which is way larger than any other airline with Easyjet second at 4,454 followed by Jet2 at 3,819 and Tui at 2,475

So overall quite promising.

Ian

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

Only slots but highlights

Emirates – 2 X daily A388

Qatar – 2 x daily

Ryanair – New routes to Seville & Valencia

Fly Play – 1 x daily KEF

Turkish – 2 x daily

Saudia – 4 per week

Air India – 1 x daily but no Bombay which may well start at Manchester ahead of us.

Wizz – 27 per week but saying they are cancelling Craovia, a route they have just added an extra weekly rotation for in the Winter.

It looks like Vueling had plans for Lisbon but now canx

Ryanair requested and got approved 10,694 slots which is way larger than any other airline with Easyjet second at 4,454 followed by Jet2 at 3,819 and Tui at 2,475

So overall quite promising.

Ian

How do you add this up?I think someone last year for summer announced how they found the amount of seats for each aircraft

 

[IanFarquharson]

How do you add this up?I think someone last year for summer announced how they found the amount of seats for each aircraft

It is all in the report just need to do the maths

 

[Timberwolf]

Only slots but highlights

Emirates – 2 X daily A388

Qatar – 2 x daily

Ryanair – New routes to Seville & Valencia

Fly Play – 1 x daily KEF

Turkish – 2 x daily

Saudia – 4 per week

Air India – 1 x daily but no Bombay which may well start at Manchester ahead of us.

Wizz – 27 per week but saying they are cancelling Craovia, a route they have just added an extra weekly rotation for in the Winter.

It looks like Vueling had plans for Lisbon but now canx

Ryanair requested and got approved 10,694 slots which is way larger than any other airline with Easyjet second at 4,454 followed by Jet2 at 3,819 and Tui at 2,475

So overall quite promising.

Ian

Good to see PLAY reapplying still showing some interest in us.Give us a potential good transit link to the States.

Qatar makes sense re daily connections to AUS and NZ.

 

[Matt995]

Only slots but highlights

Emirates – 2 X daily A388

Qatar – 2 x daily

Ryanair – New routes to Seville & Valencia

Fly Play – 1 x daily KEF

Turkish – 2 x daily

Saudia – 4 per week

Air India – 1 x daily but no Bombay which may well start at Manchester ahead of us.

Wizz – 27 per week but saying they are cancelling Craovia, a route they have just added an extra weekly rotation for in the Winter.

It looks like Vueling had plans for Lisbon but now canx

Ryanair requested and got approved 10,694 slots which is way larger than any other airline with Easyjet second at 4,454 followed by Jet2 at 3,819 and Tui at 2,475

So overall quite promising.

Ian

Actually Ian, Emirates is still showing 1 A388 & 1 B77W daily, a total of 321,244 seats, divided by 616 flights, gives a seat average of 521.5 per flight

A388 2 class, 615 seats, B77W 2 class 428 seats, 615 + 428 = 1,043 / 2 flights = 521.5

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

It is all in the report just need to do the maths

Be good if someone explained how to do it

 

[IanFarquharson]

Actually Ian, Emirates is still showing 1 A388 & 1 B77W daily, a total of 321,244 seats, divided by 616 flights, gives a seat average of 521.5 per flight

A388 2 class, 615 seats, B77W 2 class 428 seats, 615 + 428 = 1,043 / 2 flights = 521.5

I must sack my PA !
Mr W !

 

[Ray Finkle]

AI could launch BOM without requesting the slots though right? Airlines are always launching routes which don’t feature in the slot reports… There are more informed folk on her but I reckon we’ll still see AI launch new routes from BHX this winter

Most definitely.

These are just the start of season slot requests so really not much more than a guideline.

 

[Timberwolf]

I suppose when you look at Southwind of Turkey applied for slots into BHX and other UK airports .Yet in the end didn't even start. apart from a one off ad hoc flt the other night for a UK airline.

So slot requests don't mean that much.

 

[Matt995]

here you go Adam, provision slot report winter 2023/4, subject to change

Birmingham Airport Comparision Between Historic (SHL) and Initial Coordination (SAL)
Full Season Allocation Winter 2023/2024 (29th October-30th March)

Operator	W23 SHL ATMs	W23 SAL ATMs	+/- change	W23 SHL Seats	W23 SAL Seats	+/- change		Average Seats per flight	Departures	Arrivals	Average Flights Per Week	Average Flights Per Day
Aegean Airlines	-	60	60​	-	10,800	10,800​	/	180	30	30	3	0
Aer Lingus	1,118	1,120	2​	191,104	194,792	3,688​	/	174	560	560	51	7
Air France	1,153	1,232	79​	158,294	183,568	25,274​	/	149	616	616	56	8
Air India	394	308	-86​	100,864	78,848	-22,016​	/	256	154	154	14	2
Airest	220	-	-220​	-	-	0​	/	0	-	-	0	-
Aurigny Air Services	264	308	44​	19,008	22,176	3,168​	/	72	154	154	14	2
Blue Air	34	-	-34​	6,426	-	-6,426​	/	0	-	-	0	-
Blue Islands	380	232	-148​	25,840	15,776	-10,064​	/	68	116	116	11	2
Brussels Airlines	522	528	6​	73,602	74,448	846​	/	141	264	264	24	3
Corendon Airlines	32	18	-14​	6,048	3,402	-2,646​	/	189	9	9	1	0
easyJet Europe	442	1,188	746​	86,224	218,680	132,456​	/	184	594	594	54	8
easyJet Switzerland	298	450	152​	55,428	83,700	28,272​	/	186	225	225	20	3
easyJet UK	2,510	2,816	306​	454,800	515,856	61,056​	/	183	1,408	1,408	128	18
Emerald Airlines	1,452	2,072	620​	104,544	149,184	44,640​	/	72	1,036	1,036	94	13
Emirates	616	616	0​	263,648	321,244	57,596​	/	522	308	308	28	4
Eurowings	566	528	-38​	101,880	99,616	-2,264​	/	189	264	264	24	3
FedEx	44	480	436​	-	-	0​	/	0	240	240	22	3
fly PLAY	-	308	308​	-	65,912	65,912​	/	214	154	154	14	2
flybe	2,180	-	-2180​	170,040	-	-170,040​	/	0	-	-	0	-
Jet2.com	3,383	3,819	436​	640,255	758,571	118,316​	/	199	1,910	1,910	174	25
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines	1,230	1,538	308​	210,208	252,624	42,416​	/	164	769	769	70	10
Loganair	1,122	1,250	128​	61,970	65,694	3,724​	/	53	625	625	57	8
Lufthansa	1,846	1,980	134​	273,776	256,036	-17,740​	/	129	990	990	90	13
Qatar Airways	306	616	310​	77,724	191,576	113,852​	/	311	308	308	28	4
Ryanair	5,860	10,694	4834​	1,113,948	2,055,286	941,338​	/	192	5,347	5,347	486	69
Saudia	-	176	176​	-	52,448	52,448​	/	298	88	88	8	1
Scandinavian Airlines	250	388	138​	22,500	46,800	24,300​	/	121	194	194	18	3
Spice Jet	258	-	-258​	48,762	-	-48,762​	/	0	-	-	0	-
SunExpress	58	98	40​	10,962	18,522	7,560​	/	189	49	49	4	1
Swiss International Air Lines	294	308	14​	40,210	42,020	1,810​	/	136	154	154	14	2
TUI Airways	2,111	2,446	335​	499,663	561,908	62,245​	/	230	1,223	1,223	111	16
Turkish Airlines	440	616	176​	83,600	117,040	33,440​	/	190	308	308	28	4
Turkmenistan Airlines	88	-	-88​	14,080	-	-14,080​	/	0	-	-	0	-
Vueling	298	352	54​	58,920	70,048	11,128​	/	199	176	176	16	2
Wizz Air	734	704	-30​	162,720	155,320	-7,400​	/	221	352	352	32	5
Wizz Air Malta	-	484	484​	-	93,720	93,720​	/	194	242	242	22	3
Zimex Austria	390	440	50​	-	-	0​	/	0	220	220	20	3
Zimex Aviation	50	-	-50​	-	-	0​	/	0	-	-	0	-
Total	30,943	38,173	7,230	5,137,048	6,775,615	1,638,567		5,603	19,087	19,087	1,735	248

 

[Scania1800]

here you go Adam, provision slot report winter 2023/4, subject to change

Birmingham Airport Comparision Between Historic (SHL) and Initial Coordination (SAL)
Full Season Allocation Winter 2023/2024 (29th October-30th March)

Operator	W23 SHL ATMs	W23 SAL ATMs	+/- change	W23 SHL Seats	W23 SAL Seats	+/- change		Average Seats per flight	Departures	Arrivals	Average Flights Per Week	Average Flights Per Day
Aegean Airlines	-	60	60​	-	10,800	10,800​	/	180	30	30	3	0
Aer Lingus	1,118	1,120	2​	191,104	194,792	3,688​	/	174	560	560	51	7
Air France	1,153	1,232	79​	158,294	183,568	25,274​	/	149	616	616	56	8
Air India	394	308	-86​	100,864	78,848	-22,016​	/	256	154	154	14	2
Airest	220	-	-220​	-	-	0​	/	0	-	-	0	-
Aurigny Air Services	264	308	44​	19,008	22,176	3,168​	/	72	154	154	14	2
Blue Air	34	-	-34​	6,426	-	-6,426​	/	0	-	-	0	-
Blue Islands	380	232	-148​	25,840	15,776	-10,064​	/	68	116	116	11	2
Brussels Airlines	522	528	6​	73,602	74,448	846​	/	141	264	264	24	3
Corendon Airlines	32	18	-14​	6,048	3,402	-2,646​	/	189	9	9	1	0
easyJet Europe	442	1,188	746​	86,224	218,680	132,456​	/	184	594	594	54	8
easyJet Switzerland	298	450	152​	55,428	83,700	28,272​	/	186	225	225	20	3
easyJet UK	2,510	2,816	306​	454,800	515,856	61,056​	/	183	1,408	1,408	128	18
Emerald Airlines	1,452	2,072	620​	104,544	149,184	44,640​	/	72	1,036	1,036	94	13
Emirates	616	616	0​	263,648	321,244	57,596​	/	522	308	308	28	4
Eurowings	566	528	-38​	101,880	99,616	-2,264​	/	189	264	264	24	3
FedEx	44	480	436​	-	-	0​	/	0	240	240	22	3
fly PLAY	-	308	308​	-	65,912	65,912​	/	214	154	154	14	2
flybe	2,180	-	-2180​	170,040	-	-170,040​	/	0	-	-	0	-
Jet2.com	3,383	3,819	436​	640,255	758,571	118,316​	/	199	1,910	1,910	174	25
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines	1,230	1,538	308​	210,208	252,624	42,416​	/	164	769	769	70	10
Loganair	1,122	1,250	128​	61,970	65,694	3,724​	/	53	625	625	57	8
Lufthansa	1,846	1,980	134​	273,776	256,036	-17,740​	/	129	990	990	90	13
Qatar Airways	306	616	310​	77,724	191,576	113,852​	/	311	308	308	28	4
Ryanair	5,860	10,694	4834​	1,113,948	2,055,286	941,338​	/	192	5,347	5,347	486	69
Saudia	-	176	176​	-	52,448	52,448​	/	298	88	88	8	1
Scandinavian Airlines	250	388	138​	22,500	46,800	24,300​	/	121	194	194	18	3
Spice Jet	258	-	-258​	48,762	-	-48,762​	/	0	-	-	0	-
SunExpress	58	98	40​	10,962	18,522	7,560​	/	189	49	49	4	1
Swiss International Air Lines	294	308	14​	40,210	42,020	1,810​	/	136	154	154	14	2
TUI Airways	2,111	2,446	335​	499,663	561,908	62,245​	/	230	1,223	1,223	111	16
Turkish Airlines	440	616	176​	83,600	117,040	33,440​	/	190	308	308	28	4
Turkmenistan Airlines	88	-	-88​	14,080	-	-14,080​	/	0	-	-	0	-
Vueling	298	352	54​	58,920	70,048	11,128​	/	199	176	176	16	2
Wizz Air	734	704	-30​	162,720	155,320	-7,400​	/	221	352	352	32	5
Wizz Air Malta	-	484	484​	-	93,720	93,720​	/	194	242	242	22	3
Zimex Austria	390	440	50​	-	-	0​	/	0	220	220	20	3
Zimex Aviation	50	-	-50​	-	-	0​	/	0	-	-	0	-
Total	30,943	38,173	7,230	5,137,048	6,775,615	1,638,567		5,603	19,087	19,087	1,735	248

Quite Suprised to see Spice Jet on that list

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

The airline’s aircraft would run according to my calculations:
Aegean Airlines:A320
Aer lingus:A320
Air France:A321,A320,A319
Air India:B788
Aurigny air services:ATR72
Blue islands:ATR72
Brussels airlines:A319,A320
Corendon:A321,A320,B737
EasyJet Europe:A320,A321
EasyJet Swiss:A319,A320
EasyJet uk:A320,A319
Emerald airlines:ATR72
Emirates:A380,B77W
Eurowings:A320,A319
Jet2:A321,B737
KLM:E195-E2,E190,E175,B737
Loganair:ATR42,E135,E145
Luthansa:E190,A319,A320,A321
Qatar airways:B772,A350,B787-9,B788
Ryanair:A320,B737
Saudia:B78X,B787-9
SAS:CR9,A320
Sun express:A320,B737
Swiss:A220,A320,E190
Tui:B738,B788,B789
Turkish airlines:A321,B737
Vueling:A320,A319,A321
Wizz Air:A321,A320
Play:A321

 

[Matt995]

The airline’s aircraft would run according to my calculations:
Aegean Airlines:A320
Aer lingus:A320
Air France:A321,A320,A319
Air India:B788
Aurigny air services:ATR72
Blue islands:ATR72
Brussels airlines:A319,A320
Corendon:A321,A320,B737
EasyJet Europe:A320,A321
EasyJet Swiss:A319,A320
EasyJet uk:A320,A319
Emerald airlines:ATR72
Emirates:A380,B77W
Eurowings:A320,A319
Jet2:A321,B737
KLM:E195-E2,E190,E175,B737
Loganair:ATR42,E135,E145
Luthansa:E190,A319,A320,A321
Qatar airways:B772,A350,B787-9,B788
Ryanair:A320,B737
Saudia:B78X,B787-9
SAS:CR9,A320
Sun express:A320,B737
Swiss:A220,A320,E190
Tui:B738,B788,B789
Turkish airlines:A321,B737
Vueling:A320,A319,A321
Wizz Air:A321,A320
Play:A321

impossible to tell with some airlines what aircraft will be operated, you have missed Air France A220's, Brussels the CR9, Lufthansa, CR9s, CRXs, Loganair AT72

Qatar's 2 daily slots are indicating both flights on a B789, realistically we will only get a daily B788 flight, which is still good news, considering they haven't started yet & I don't expect Play to use their winter slots either.