Manchester Airport Transformation Programme

[BlueManc]

CCGE29 always a pleasure to read your informed posts.

Has anything been mentioned about the landside traffic issues? (notwithstanding the Ardwick blockade in February...).

 

[LS@MAN]

I really hope the overcrowding hasn’t started already

No…it landed at 5.20am considerably earlier than scheduled, therefore due to no stands available at T2 and rather than be held on a taxiway, was allocated stand 12.

The cargo sheds coming down and expansion of the west apron will give approx 20 NB stands.

Survey work begins in December.

Also, it was QR’s choice to go on 12 this morning - the airport had 112 free for them.

CCGE29

Great news ref the stands!
Can you confirm if stands 309, 310 and the potential 202 can be used simultaneously?
Although I’m unsure if stand 202 will ever appear?

 

[CCGE29]

No…it landed at 5.20am considerably earlier than scheduled, therefore due to no stands available at T2 and rather than be held on a taxiway, was allocated stand 12.



Great news ref the stands!
Can you confirm if stands 309, 310 and the potential 202 can be used simultaneously?
Although I’m unsure if stand 202 will ever appear?

As you say, the theoretical stand 202 has been binned off for now in favour of 309 & 310 as remote stands.

In general plans change by the week so next week the plan may well be completely different…

CCGE29

 

[Trumpington]

Shame to loose RVP one day, but guess inevitable if Man going to expand to 40 to 50 million mark. RVP is pretty temporary in construction as we know. Are there any graphics to illustrate what cargo shed stands would like like? Assuming quite a large task demolishing sheds and concreting? Couple of years work?

 

[BlueManc]

Manchester Airport Master Plan to 2030 | Manchester City Council

Manchester City Council download - Manchester Airport Master Plan to 2030 | Planning and regeneration | Planning

www.manchester.gov.uk

Manchester Airport - The Need For Land download indicates the sort of thinking back in 2010. Broadly in line with current comments regarding cargo sheds. Well off the mark re T1!

 

[LS@MAN]

Shame to loose RVP one day, but guess inevitable if Man going to expand to 40 to 50 million mark. RVP is pretty temporary in construction as we know. Are there any graphics to illustrate what cargo shed stands would like like? Assuming quite a large task demolishing sheds and concreting? Couple of years work?

Not aware of any graphics online already. Consultation on the land starts next month.
The project manager on the latest podcast says within 4 years 20 new stands are needed, so we can assume work will start next year and be done within that period, but wouldn’t know how long all this work would take to complete.

 

[MKY661]

A cool video here showing the small changes in Pier C in T1 just before T1 airside closed. You can see there is some work going on at Gate 25 and Gate 27 now has been updated with the new doors and lighting.

For me the question remains to be seen if it will be used internally for arriving passengers as well, since remote boarding is not really feasible for Pier C as discussed earlier this year. However if not, it could be an opportunity to remove the glass walls segregating the Pier.

 

[Trumpington]

A cool video here showing the small changes in Pier C in T1 just before T1 airside closed. You can see there is some work going on at Gate 25 and Gate 27 now has been updated with the new doors and lighting.

For me the question remains to be seen if it will be used internally for arriving passengers as well, since remote boarding is not really feasible for Pier C as discussed earlier this year. However if not, it could be an opportunity to remove the glass walls segregating the Pier.

So interesting, mystery ensues re Pier C

A cool video here showing the small changes in Pier C in T1 just before T1 airside closed. You can see there is some work going on at Gate 25 and Gate 27 now has been updated with the new doors and lighting.

For me the question remains to be seen if it will be used internally for arriving passengers as well, since remote boarding is not really feasible for Pier C as discussed earlier this year. However if not, it could be an opportunity to remove the glass walls segregating the Pier.

So interesting. Mystery ensues re Pier C? Fact it's getting some make over work suggests will be part of T2 for at least medium to long term. Might even call it 'Pier 3 or 4' in time!?

 

[LS@MAN]

So interesting, mystery ensues re Pier C

So interesting. Mystery ensues re Pier C? Fact it's getting some make over work suggests will be part of T2 for at least medium to long term. Might even call it 'Pier 3 or 4' in time!?

It’s definitely going to be used as an overflow for T2 come next summer. Shuttle buses running from the B gates lounge in T2 to Pier C.
The refresh is needed and will include a WHSmiths at the current gate 21 area (this gate is already unused).

 

[Trumpington]

It’s definitely going to be used as an overflow for T2 come next summer. Shuttle buses running from the B gates lounge in T2 to Pier C.
The refresh is needed and will include a WHSmiths at the current gate 21 area (this gate is already unused).

Gate 21- Point entry Pier C? In essence old stand to become a bussing zone!?

 

[marni1971]

The refresh is needed and will include a WHSmiths at the current gate 21 area (this gate is already unused).

Interestingly 21 isn’t actually part of pier C, and already has a Smiths. Was also in use last month.

Fact it's getting some make over work

It’s barely worth getting excited over. A few blue lights, a new shaped sign and a new desk on each gate.

 

[CCGE29]

Gate 21- Point entry Pier C? In essence old stand to become a bussing zone!?

Gate 20 is the entrance. (The bussing lounge below the old gate 21).

Buses will run at 5 minute intervals from T2. Pax will go through boarding pass gates so they can only access the pier once the flight has been ‘gated’ to prevent any pax inadvertently ending up at the ‘Satellite pier’ that aren’t travelling from it.

CCGE29

 

[LS@MAN]

Gate 20 is the entrance. (The bussing lounge below the old gate 21).

Buses will run at 5 minute intervals from T2. Pax will go through boarding pass gates so they can only access the pier once the flight has been ‘gated’ to prevent any pax inadvertently ending up at the ‘Satellite pier’ that aren’t travelling from it.

CCGE29

So passengers would have to get their boarding pass scanned and show passport twice then?

Are we taking about specific airlines / aircraft type or a mixture?

Interestingly 21 isn’t actually part of pier C, and already has a Smiths. Was also in use last month.


It’s barely worth getting excited over. A few blue lights, a new shaped sign and a new desk on each gate.

Those airbridge’s need a good spring clean! The one on stand 31 is rusting very bad now, looks quite far out in it’s position, unsure if this is only code C stand now?

 

[jamesg4568]

Gate 20 is the entrance. (The bussing lounge below the old gate 21).

Buses will run at 5 minute intervals from T2. Pax will go through boarding pass gates so they can only access the pier once the flight has been ‘gated’ to prevent any pax inadvertently ending up at the ‘Satellite pier’ that aren’t travelling from it.

CCGE29

Will these gates become renumbered, for example E or F gates?

Also curious to know how this will work for arriving passengers - if they will be bussed directly from the plane or go through the satellite?

 

[Trumpington]

Gate 20 is the entrance. (The bussing lounge below the old gate 21).

Buses will run at 5 minute intervals from T2. Pax will go through boarding pass gates so they can only access the pier once the flight has been ‘gated’ to prevent any pax inadvertently ending up at the ‘Satellite pier’ that aren’t travelling from it.

CCGE29

Thanks for informative info, solved the mystery for me! I do hope Pier C and airbridges get a proper refurbishment. Not best passenger experience otherwise!!

 

[marni1971]

I posted this elsewhere, watching a livestream the other day and a Virgin 330 was on pier C being serviced and restocked. Once that was done to my delight it moved to T2X to collect its passengers.

 

[Scottie Dog]

Gate 20 is the entrance. (The bussing lounge below the old gate 21).

Buses will run at 5 minute intervals from T2. Pax will go through boarding pass gates so they can only access the pier once the flight has been ‘gated’ to prevent any pax inadvertently ending up at the ‘Satellite pier’ that aren’t travelling from it.

CCGE29

Many thanks, as always, for your insider feed. Despite the questions asked by others it would appear that a transfer bus every 5 minutes sounds like a reasonable plan.

 

[BlueManc]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1994005051992371219

repeat exercise needed Pier B

 

[marni1971]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1994005051992371219

repeat exercise needed Pier B

You’d think they’d know the exact year!

 

[Trumpington]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1994005051992371219

repeat exercise needed Pier B

And Pier C! If ever!