Leeds Bradford - General Thread

[White Heather]

Apparently there is to be 6 TUI flights per day cancelled at MAN so the company can cope. It really must be awful for the pax esp if say its your typical family that have been saving up and looking forwards to a holiday esp after the plandemic.

They will be switching to Jet2 Holidays in droves next year.

 

[LBAYORKIE]

They will be switching to Jet2 Holidays in droves next year.

Depends when/if Jet2 have to start cancelling.

 

[ls27]

Just read a Government report stating that all airports will be forced to close by 2040, except Heathrow, Belfast and Glasgow. Any passengers travelling from these airports must travel there by rail. This will become a legal requirement, so that we can conform to Global Climate Charge Policy . Fares will be very high for travel as well. As an aside eating beef and lamb will also become illegal. New World Order rules.

 

[airforced]

Plenty of MAN, TUI and LGW bashing today - Jet2 are doing a sterling job at recovering and keeping LBA passengers moving - one thing for certain if we had more TUI then I'm sure LBA would have faced the axe - in this article in the Telepgraph the 'friendly low fares caption behind the TUI aircraft is a little unfortunate!

If you mean that the 'friendly low fares' caption behind the TUI aircraft is unfortunate as it is no longer true you are correct. If you mean that it is unfortunate for TUI that a Jet2 aircraft was sitting behind their aircraft and advertising 'low fares' you are correct in one sense. Shame that Jet2 don't today live up to their advertising as they once did. Tin hat on now!

 

[LBA4EVER]

Just read a Government report stating that all airports will be forced to close by 2040, except Heathrow, Belfast and Glasgow. Any passengers travelling from these airports must travel there by rail. This will become a legal requirement, so that we can conform to Global Climate Charge Policy . Fares will be very high for travel as well. As an aside eating beef and lamb will also become illegal. New World Order rules.

Flipping heck ls27 that all sounds a bit extreme haha but tell you what after the last 2 and half years we have all had to suffer who knows hey!
The governments plans to end the sale of all petrol cars by i believe 2030 is also questionable too.

 

[The Pole]

Just read a Government report stating that all airports will be forced to close by 2040, except Heathrow, Belfast and Glasgow. Any passengers travelling from these airports must travel there by rail. This will become a legal requirement, so that we can conform to Global Climate Charge Policy . Fares will be very high for travel as well. As an aside eating beef and lamb will also become illegal. New World Order rules.

I doubt it will happen. LBA wouldn't bother with new terminal/extension if that was the case.
Beef & Lamb - my favourite curry ingredient, that will put many Indian style restaurants out of business!!!

 

[Tarn Spotter]

Recruitment is a problem across the whole industry, not just at airports. And I am speaking from experience there. Still a long long way to before this recovers fully. And now we have Monkey Pox - on that - “Now I’m a Believer” haha

The only way they could have prepared was to recruit staff, get Home Office approval, train them and then tell them to go home and wait for restrictions to be lifted. That would mean paying them a salary to do nothing until the passengers returned giving them a job to do. As the boss of BHX pointed out last week, they tried to recruit early but got few if any takers as they couldn't say when the staff would actually start work. In the end the Government gave airports 3 days notice that restrictions that had been crippling the industry were being lifted. Only then could airports start meaningful and successful recruitment, but as he also pointed out, after the conclusion of the recruitment process, which itself would take at least a month, it takes 12 weeks to secure approval and train the staff, or 3 months near enough. Hence most airports in the UK found very quickly that the passengers were back but the staff needed within the airport take months to recruit and train. The Government never gave airports a chance.

It will be 12 weeks next monday since the announcement of the removal of restrictions at airports, enough time for the most inefficient business to overcome its problems.

It's time to attach the blame firmly where it belongs, the owners of the airport.
You don't plan recovery from the day it's due to start, you plan from shut down and evaluate various recovery situations, until a clear picture is established.
Airports knew they had paid badly, had unsocial hours and treated staff badly in March 2020, with full employment they knew recruitment would be difficult and impossible without major changes to pay and conditions.
It was obvious when the covid wage support scheme wound down last September that the expected jump in unemployment did not occur and that employees had located the jobs they needed.
Attracting staff when employment high and over 1.2 million job vacancies in the period Jan to Mar this year, how any employer thought it could recruit in weeks, is beyond believe.

 

[lbaspotter]

Good to see that Bradford has won the competition to be named the UK's City of Culture 2025 this evening. Hopefully it will lead to more tourists visiting the city and the West Yorkshire region that will be using Leeds/Bradford Airport as a point of entry & exit.

 

[A400]

It's time to attach the blame firmly where it belongs, the owners of the airport.
You don't plan recovery from the day it's due to start, you plan from shut down and evaluate various recovery situations, until a clear picture is established.
Airports knew they had paid badly, had unsocial hours and treated staff badly in March 2020, with full employment they knew recruitment would be difficult and impossible without major changes to pay and conditions.
It was obvious when the covid wage support scheme wound down last September that the expected jump in unemployment did not occur and that employees had located the jobs they needed.
Attracting staff when employment high and over 1.2 million job vacancies in the period Jan to Mar this year, how any employer thought it could recruit in weeks, is beyond believe.

Sorry but you can’t blame the airport for a pandemic which caused a downturn in travel demand.

At the time demand was low for flying the airport was not making much revenue and the staff costs will have added to their woes when a lot of those staff at the time were probably not needed.

I don’t dispute some of the points you’ve made however as I agree that their working conditions should be improved.

With recruiting they can employ people fast but all the security background checks they go under take time. Aswell as training them to do their job.

These issues are across most UK airports at present not just LBA.

 

[LBAYORKIE]

We have just been through a pandemic. Throughout tough decisions had to be made at all levels, by government and other organisations. Some decisions were good and some were bad but given the unprecedented situation I dont blame anyone as they were all trying to do their best. We need to stop moaning and using hindsight to criticise and be positive. Delays at airports are a small price to pay.

 

[Aviador]

Exactly and so long as airports and airlines are ensuring people who made it to the airport in good time can make their flights then that's all that matters.

 

[AirBingley]

The YP / YEP ran an article yesterday (helpful for once) with LBA's side. LBA explained they now have enough security staff but can't get them airside because of passes but each week it is improving. I'll try dig the article out but it was a balanced and fair response to the industry problems. More importantly I've only seen the odd bit of social media saying LBA queues are about an hour which is nothing compared with other airports so I'm hoping all our Yorkshire friends are getting away on their holidays!

I'm not even going to enter into the debate Grant Shapps has started this morning!

 

[airforced]

I'm not even going to enter into the debate Grant Shapps has started this morning!

Other than to say - What a plonker. He really ought to have learnt by now to keep his mouth shut.

 

[White Heather]

From what I gathered, the money provided to airports during the pandemic came after the staff had been laid off due to lack of Government support! I recall aviation chiefs pleading for assistance from UK Government to save jobs.

 

[Len Fish]

They will be switching to Jet2 Holidays in droves next year.

My son and family were due to fly out from Manchester to Cyprus today and got a message to say their holiday had been cancelled just before they set off to the airport. They’ve now booked a last minute holiday to Turkey next week with Jet2 from LBA. TUI and Manchester’s loss is Jet2’s and LBA’s gain.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

Just read a Government report stating that all airports will be forced to close by 2040, except Heathrow, Belfast and Glasgow. Any passengers travelling from these airports must travel there by rail. This will become a legal requirement, so that we can conform to Global Climate Charge Policy . Fares will be very high for travel as well. As an aside eating beef and lamb will also become illegal. New World Order rules.

That's what they are meeting about in Davos isn't it. The worlds elites having a meeting about how to discuss how us Meer minions will live whilst they ignore their own rules. If only someone had nuclear weapons .... that would be the place to strike.

 

[Aviador]

That word need not feature in any discussion here on Forums4airports. Please use less colourful language to keep this a family friendly forum.

Edit: Removed by author.

 

[LBA4EVER]

That's what they are meeting about in Davos isn't it. The worlds elites having a meeting about how to discuss how us Meer minions will live whilst they ignore their own rules. If only someone had nuclear weapons .... that would be the place to strike.

I can certainly think of someone in the media atm that has plenty of nuclear weapons! The west is weak whilst the east is becoming stronger, this together with klaus and co is not good!

 

[Seasider]

I don't come on here to read about the world's problems. I know that what is happening affects aviation but I would like what is affecting LBA at the moment.
Still can't make my mind up whether to go on my LHR day trip next week.

 

[LBA4EVER]

Guess it was a bit off topic, but end of the day myself and many others are very aware and concerned about the way this planets going, people are blind, manipulated and brainwashed but dont see the real truth to whats happening, and remember all the current airport problems across the country and elsewhere are connected to current events so there is no way of avoiding it.