CAA Provisional Statistics Update

[Skyflyer1]

Does anybody know who updates the busiest routes table on the LBA wikipedia page as 2012 stats have not been updated yet?

 

[TheLocalYokel]

CAA stats July 2013

Another excellent month!

419,330 passengers handled in the month, up 13.5% on July 2012 with atms up 3.2%.

Rolling 12-month figure is 3,115,658, up 6% on a year ago.

 

[White Heather]

Thanks local yokel, a good month indeed, and August could potentially be better still. All very encouraging.

 

[Bigman]

We didn't manage to beat Liverpool this time but we were only 10,000 behind both them and Belfast International. Interesting that both these airports still carry 1 million more a year than we do. If we were only 10,000 behind a month that would put us close to 4 million by my reckoning if we carry on the way we are.

 

[LBA787]

We didn't manage to beat Liverpool this time but we were only 10,000 behind both them and Belfast International. Interesting that both these airports still carry 1 million more a year than we do. If we were only 10,000 behind a month that would put us close to 4 million by my reckoning if we carry on the way we are.

We wont catch them until our winter operation increases considerably our we get more scheduled services running all year. It's all good having very busy summer seasons but winter is where the slack costs us in the pax total race.

We don't and probably wont ever have the domestic operation both LPL & BFS have. The LPL-BFS route alone pushes 450k a year and there IOM service at least 150k. BFS has multiple domestic destinations with figures in excess of 200k! LBA's figures will be less through the quieter months of the year compared with these two because we just don't have the all year round stuff...

Where has the domestic traffic gone? EDI, GLA & BRS to name a few. I know we have Logan air operating the GLA but domestic from leeds has died a death in the past 4-5 years! When I started up at LBA in 2007 there were many flights to these destinations mostly full I might add...

:crazy:

 

[White Heather]

Purely on the domestic front, LBA has lost routes to Newquay, Exeter, Bristol, Gatwick, Edinburgh and Inverness in the past few years, with reduced capacity on Glasgow. We have also now lost the Jet2 Belfast route, although Flybe will probably recover the passenger loss on the Belfast City route. Add to that the lost routes into Ireland - Cork, Knock, Shannon and Galway, and the virtual cessation of the IOM route. It is hardly surprising that our domestic passengers have diminished rapidly. It would be a whole lot worse if it were not for the LHR route commencing last December.

 

[Aviador]

Isn't it just a case of not having the right airline to do the job? If we had say Easyjet on routes such as Glasgow, Edinburgh and Belfast, LBA would be pulling in many more passengers than it has ever done with airlines we have now or in the past.

 

[yorkie40]

Why don't esayjet use lba then? Anyone

 

[lbaspotter]

Easyjet do use Leeds/Bradford for there winter Geneva flights. Also its worth noting that there are a lot of noises been made that they maybe more coming in the pipeline. I can't confirm wither its just rumours, hearsay or if there is any truth to it.....

 

[yorkie40]

Hope there is truth in it lbaspotter?

 

[Bigman]

Right then guys and gals...hot off the press!!!
CAA stats just out. We did 442549 in August, up 14.6%. Rolling total now 3,171,872.
And at last, we have broken the 10,000 barrier on the Heathrow..but only just at 10,058. We were just 26,000 behind Liverpool this time, who fell 3.1%. Believe it or not, we beat Aberdeen by 130,000, but they still have a higher rolling total than us.

 

[Aviador]

It's so annoying, the winter months let us down so much and this is unlikely to change unless there is some acceptance that some money needs to be spent upgrading the ILS, runway or whatever it takes to get airlines to commit to more traditionally lower yielding winter routes.

 

[White Heather]

There was discussion regarding winter ops at last weeks consultative meeting. The airport MD stated that the reason that the airport is quiet in the winter is that there is no demand for more flights. Nothing to do with the airport conditions, fog, snow, cross winds etc. This is backed up by the fact that airlines such as Jet2 do not operate many flights out of Newcastle, Glasgow, East Midlands etc, despite them having better conditions than LBA traditionally does. Even operations are MAN are substantially reduced. We were told that if the demand for winter flying increased, then the flights would increase to meet the demand.

One interesting fact also pointed out was that the national average increase in pax this year, (year on year) is around 1%. LBA's year on year increase is running at 6% and September is expected to be another record month for the airport.

 

[ridgeback]

September is expected to be another record month for the airport.

Certainly will be from the LHR-LBA shuttle point of view.

 

[a300boy]

i also agree that they would match flight supply to demand during the winter however poor reliability of Lbia operations in the winter have an adverse affect on demand, ie passengers who travel on a regular basis know full well they need to fly from other airports to be sure they make connections as I used to do. the BA operation did pretty well last winter so hopefully it will be a big improvement for us. Klm still have too many issues with a Cat 2 only operation.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

I think we're all getting down on the winter thing that I'm turning the negative into a positive - at least this winter we have one extra based aircraft in monarch offering more flights for the airport. Might not be much but better then anything. Not as doom and gloom as were all making out.

 

[lbaspotter]

As things stand both Jet2 and Ryanair have a much bigger winter flying programme this winter season compared to last winter. That along with the added new Monarch flights and the increasing pax been carried by British Airways on the Heathrow route and I think the LBA pax figure will continue to climb, but not at such a rapid pace as we have seen over the summer months.

 

[Aviador]

i also agree that they would match flight supply to demand during the winter however poor reliability of Lbia operations in the winter have an adverse affect on demand, ie passengers who travel on a regular basis know full well they need to fly from other airports to be sure they make connections as I used to do. the BA operation did pretty well last winter so hopefully it will be a big improvement for us. Klm still have too many issues with a Cat 2 only operation.

Here's an examples of the point I was trying to make in my earlier post.

Aberdeen is one of LBA's closest competitors handling just more than LBA with 3,380,675 passengers using the airports over the last twelve months. In January ABZ handled 225,146 terminal passengers vs LBA's 123,526. So Aberdeen handles almost double what LBA handles during January. If LBA doubled it's winter throughput similarly to other airports it would be handling nearer 4 million passengers annually.

 

[whoshotjimmi]

The whole make up of Aberdeen airport is entirely different to that of LBA. Oil rig flights alone account for nearly half a million passengers a year. The largest operations at the airport are that of BMI and Eastern. The inbound business nature of the airport spreads the passenger throughput far more evenly throughout the year. Whatever we may wish, LBA has become a predominantly leisure airport with its associated peaks and troughs of usage. It may be too much to ask to double the passenger numbers through the winter months without a significant change in profile.

 

[rmac]

Agreed - Aberdeen is a different type of airport to LBA. Imagine on an Aberdeen thread the comments are along the lines -- 'If only we could boost our Summer passenger numbers by having more leisure flights to the likes of Palma, Alicante etc. Leeds handles far more passengers in the summer months than we do - if we could be like them we might be looking at nearly 4 million passenger per year'.