British Airways

[KARFA]

Jerry with exception of KLM ( and that’s only because off their Shell contract along the east coast) the major legacies UK spoke offerings are dire beyond the 4 largest regionals.

They certainly do NOT connect into the smaller centres that just not true.

And as for KLM from those smaller centres in particular their fares can be mind numbing !

They do offer some reasonable fares via the consolidators from time to time but don’t expect flexibility in your itinerary either.

Again the regionals are the home of the flexible fares and point to point operators these days.
These carriers also provide far more local employment opportunities than those legacies have ever done.

Other than mileage runs ( another myth as they cost you up front on those business fares) to earn status and rewards (bribes) the legacies offer little on short haul other than INCONVENIENCE and longer travel times via intermediate points imho.

But do note my point was should not be encouraged!

Clearly KARFA and Bingley might prefer jobs for Hounslow Spelthorne , Hillingdon and Slough then ( code)

Fact is BA in particular haven’t yet proven real commitment to Leeds have they !

I have to say it's a new one on me to suggest one should book a carrier based on how many people they employ near my local airport, it would rather restrict my travel as I would only be able to go to LS destinations

Of course people can choose what airline they want to book with for a trip based on many factors. Whilst some prefer U2/FR/LS, there may be reasons some prefer the likes of LH/KL/BA/AF. I appreciate you have a strong opinion against legacy carriers, that is your prerogative of course, everyone has different priorities and view points when it comes to choosing. As noted though, if heading to major cities in Europe there really aren't that many options from LBA so connecting somewhere or driving over to MAN is inevitable. When going long haul there are a few options from MAN but frankly most places I go are not conveniently served from there so a connection through a hub is needed.

Anyway to try and bring it back on topic for this thread, BA have been at LBA for nearly 6 years now. As unfortunate as the cuts in April have been, they could have quite easily just pulled the plug on the route. They haven't done that so hopefully this does suggest some level of commitment. As noted up thread the loads do seem to be improving and hitting record highs since April so hopefully that encourages them to continue the route.

 

[lbaspotter]

Going down to London to watch the England vs Japan game on Saturday November 17th at the home of Rugby Union Twickenham. So I've gone and booked myself onto the British Airways Shuttle (£85 Return) seen as its far cheaper (£115 day return) than using the East Coast LNER Train service

BA1347 = LBA 11:05 - LHR 12:15 Saturday, November 17th (Airbus A319)
BA1346 = LHR 09:25 - LBA 10:25 Sunday, November 18th (Airbus A320)

 

[Finger66]

So according to GDS tomorrow's loads look like this:
BA1340 northbound and BA1345 southbound well loaded but still in excess of 15 seats available on both. BA1341 has just 14 available seats and BA1344 a mere 7. Not three bad from where I am sat. If I get chance later I will try and post some of the other carriers loadings for tomorrow. The only route not looking close to the great loads on most others is SOU, but then it is as I keep saying school holidays and a business route so no surprises. Anything will be posted under Flybe if I get the chance.

 

[White Heather]

Going down to London to watch the England vs Japan Rugby Union Match on Saturday November 17th at the home of Rugby Union (Twickenham). So I've gone and booked myself onto the British Airways Shuttle (£85 Return) seen as its far cheaper (£115 day return) than using the East Coast LNER Train service

BA1347 = LBA 11:05 - LHR 12:15 Saturday, November 17th (Airbus A319)
BA1346 = LHR 09:25 - LBA 10:25 Sunday, November 18th (Airbus A320)

And you get to fly back on the A320. Twickenham is ideally placed too for Heathrow - more so than Kings Cross. Not sure if it still operates but way back I used to catch the 33 bus from Twickenham to Hounslow, then on to the A1 Airport Express bus, although I do also recall that there was a bus from Heathrow to Twickenham via Hatton Cross. £85 is a very decent return fare in my view.

 

[lbaspotter]

Breaking news is that it looks like British Airways has suffered a security breach of website. It may effect anyone who has booked flights between 22:58 August 21 2018 & 21:45 September 5 2018

Source: https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb/information/incident/data-theft/latest-information?dr=&dt=British Airways&tier=&scheme=&logintype=public&audience=travel&CUSTSEG=&GGLMember=&ban=||P1M|||||||HOME||||L4||||anonymous-inspiration|||&KMtag=c&KMver=1.0&clickpage=HOME

Customer data theft

We are investigating, as a matter of urgency, the theft of customer data from our website and our mobile app the stolen data did not include travel or passport details.

From 22:58 BST August 21 2018 until 21:45 BST September 5 2018 inclusive, the personal and financial details of customers making bookings on our website and app were compromised.

The breach has been resolved and our website is working normally. We have notified the police and relevant authorities.

We are deeply sorry for the disruption that this criminal activity has caused. We take the protection of our customers’ data very seriously.
We are investigating, as a matter of urgency, the theft of customer data from our website and our mobile app. The stolen data did not include travel or passport details.

From 22:58 BST August 21 2018 until 21:45 BST September 5 2018 inclusive, the personal and financial details of customers making bookings on our website and app were compromised.

The breach has been resolved and our website is working normally. We have notified the police and relevant authorities.

We are deeply sorry for the disruption that this criminal activity has caused. We take the protection of our customers’ data very seriously.

What to do if you have been affected

If you believe you have been affected by this incident, then please contact your bank or credit card provider and follow their recommended advice. Please check back here for further updates, we will be updating this page.

FAQs

How do I know if I have been affected?

This relates to customer bookings made from 22:58 BST August 21 2018 to 21:45 September 5 2018 inclusive. We will be contacting affected customers directly to advise them of what has happened and are advising them to contact their banks or credit card providers and follow their recommended advice.

Will there be any compensation?

We take the protection of our customers’ data seriously, and are very sorry for the concern that this criminal activity has caused. We will continue to keep our customers updated with the very latest information. We will be contacting customers and will manage any claims on an individual basis.

What data has been lost?

The personal and financial details of customers making bookings on ba.com and the airline’s mobile app were compromised. No passport or travel details were stolen.

How do I reset my ba.com password?

Click the Forgotten Pin/Password link on the top right-hand corner of the ba.com homepage.

We recommend you choose a unique password that you do not use for any other online account.

Should I call my bank or cancel my credit cards?

We recommend you contact your bank and follow their recommended advice.

What shall I do if I am due to travel today?

The incident has been resolved and all systems are working normally so customers due to travel can check-in online as normal.

Will I still be able to check in?

Yes, all customers booked on our flights will be able to check in as normal.

Will this affect any future bookings?

The incident has been resolved and ba.com is working normally so future bookings will not be affected.

 

[Bigman]

And for today's in flight entertainment:

Comedy Channel - Yes Prime Minister - Jim Hacker tackles Brexit
Kids Channel - CBBC's Hacker Time
Sport Channel - Watch the New Zealand All Backs perform their famous Hacker
Movie Channel - Whoopie Goldberg in Sister Hacked
Music Channel - Clarinet classics by Hacker Bilk
(it must be Friday!!)

 

[Finger66]

Love it Bigman

 

[Seasider]

And for today's in flight entertainment:

Comedy Channel - Yes Prime Minister - Jim Hacker tackles Brexit
Kids Channel - CBBC's Hacker Time
Sport Channel - Watch the New Zealand All Backs perform their famous Hacker
Movie Channel - Whoopie Goldberg in Sister Hacked
Music Channel - Clarinet classics by Hacker Bilk
(it must be Friday!!)

Brilliant, you have the wit of a genius.

 

[lbaspotter]

I've just recived a email from British Airways this moring saying for operational reasons, they had to change the prebooked seat I had on one of the flights I had booked with them.
Took a look and noticed its the LHR-LBA BA1346 on Sunday, November 18 that's being changed from A320 to A319.

So it looks like they have started to make the predicted changes for the winter 2018/2019 schedule, so where flights which were showing A321/A320 have now reverted back on to the A319 as normal.

Oh well. .

 

[KARFA]

I've just recived a email from British Airways this moring saying for operational reasons, they had to change the prebooked seat I had on one of the flights I had booked with them.
Took a look and noticed its the LHR-LBA BA1346 on Sunday, November 18 that's being changed from A320 to A319.

So it looks like they have started to make the predicted changes for the winter 2018/2019 schedule, so where flights which were showing A321/A320 have now reverted back on to the A319 as normal.

Oh well. .

The bookings I have in December and January which were on an A321 are still showing that atm. Unfortunately you only get that email if the aircraft type change also means your seat changes - if your seat number stays the same you get no email so I have manually checked through mine just in case.

Whether mine remain as A321s or get changed back at some stage to A319s who knows!

 

[lbaspotter]

British Airways revised winter 2018/19 schedule.

October 2018
Sun 28th = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 29th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 30th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 31st = BA1346/1347, A319 (Was A320)
November 2018
Thu 1st = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 2nd = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Sat 3rd = BA1346/1347, A319 (Was A320)
Sun 4th = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 5th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 6th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 7st = BA1346/1347, A319 (Was A320)
Thu 8st = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 9th = BA1346/1347, A319 (Was A320) & BA1344/1345, A319 (Was A321)
Sat 10th = BA1346/1347, A319 (Was A320)
Sun 11th = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 12th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 13th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 14st = BA1346/1347, A319 (Was A321)
Thu 15st = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 16th = BA1346/1347, A319 (Was A320) & BA1344/1345, A319 (Was A321)
Sat 17th = BA1346/1347, A319
Sun 18th = BA1346/1347, A319 (Was A320)
Mon 19th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 20th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 21st = BA1346/1347, A319 (Was A321)
Thu 22nd = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 23rd = BA1346/1347, A319 (Was A320) & BA1344/1345, A319 (Was A321)
Sat 24th = BA1346/1347, A319
Sun 25th = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 26th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 27th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 28st = BA1346/1347, A319 (Was A321)
Thu 29nd = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 30th = BA1346/1347, A319 (Was A320) & BA1344/1345, A319
December 2018
Sat 1st = BA1346/1347, A319
Sun 2nd = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 3rd = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 4th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 5st = BA1346/1347, A319 (Was A321)
Thu 6nd = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 7th = BA1346/1347, A320 & BA1344/1345, A321
Sat 8st = BA1346/1347, A319
Sun 9th = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 10th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 11th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 12st = BA1346/1347, A319
Thu 13th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 14th = BA1346/1347, A319 (Was A320) & BA1344/1345, A321
Sat 15st = BA1346/1347, A319
Sun 16th = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 17th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 18th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 19st = BA1346/1347, A321
Thu 20th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 21st = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Sat 22nd = BA1346/1347, A320
Sun 23rd = BA1346/1347, A320
Mon 24th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 25th =
Wed 26th = BA1346/1347, A319 (Was A320)
Thu 27th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 28th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Sat 29th = BA1346/1347, A320
Sun 30th = BA1346/1347, A320
Mon 31st = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
January 2019
Tue 1th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 2nd = BA1346/1347, A320
Thu 3rd = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 4th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Sat 5th = BA1346/1347, A320
Sun 6th = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 7th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 8th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 9th = BA1346/1347, A321
Thu 10th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 11th = BA1346/1347, A320 & BA1344/1345, A321
Sat 12th = BA1346/1347, A319
Sun 13th = BA1346/1347, A320 (Was A319)
Mon 14th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 15th = BA1346/1347, A320 (Was A319)
Wed 16th = BA1346/1347, A321
Thu 17th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 18th = BA1346/1347, A320 & BA1344/1345, A321
Sat 19th = BA1346/1347, A319
Sun 20th = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 21st = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 22nd = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 23rd = BA1346/1347, A320
Thu 24th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 25th = BA1346/1347, A320 & BA1344/1345, A321
Sat 26th = BA1346/1347, A319
Sun 27th = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 28th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 29th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 30th = BA1346/1347, A320
Thu 31st = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
February 2019
Fri 1st = BA1346/1347, A320 & BA1344/1345, A321
Sat 2nd = BA1346/1347, A320
Sun 3rd = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 4th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 5th = BA1346/1347, A320 (Was A319)
Wed 6th = BA1346/1347, A320
Thu 7th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 8th = BA1346/1347, A320 & BA1344/1345, A321
Sat 9th = BA1346/1347, A319
Sun 10th = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 11th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 12th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 13th = BA1346/1347, A321
Thu 14th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 15th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A321
Sat 16th = BA1346/1347, A320
Sun 17th = BA1346/1347, A320
Mon 18th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 19th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 20th = BA1346/1347, A320
Thu 21st = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 22nd = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Sat 23rd = BA1346/1347, A320
Sun 24th = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 25th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 26th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 27th = BA1346/1347, A321
Thu 28th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
March 2019
Fri 1st = BA1346/1347, A320 & BA1344/1345, A319
Sat 2nd = BA1346/1347, A320
Sun 3rd = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 4th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 5th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 6th = BA1346/1347, A320 (Was A319)
Thu 7th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 8th = BA1346/1347, A320 & BA1344/1345, A319
Sat 9th = BA1346/1347, A320
Sun 10th = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 11th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 12th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 13th = BA1346/1347, A320
Thu 14th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 15th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Sat 16th = BA1346/1347, A320
Sun 17th = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 18th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 19th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 20th = BA1346/1347, A320
Thu 21st = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 22nd = BA1346/1347, A320 & BA1344/1345, A319
Sat 23rd = BA1346/1347, A320
Sun 24th = BA1346/1347, A320
Mon 25th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 26th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 27th = BA1346/1347, A320
Thu 28st = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 29th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Sat 30th = BA1346/1347, A320

 

[Finger66]

Thanks LBAspotter. That mirrors the checks I did in GDS yesterday until I found a non A319 flight and that being 07Dec with an A320 and A321 respectively. Whether we get 319s, 320s or 321s on the flights we shall wait and see but at least we are keeping our token offering for another season at least

 

[lbaspotter]

British Airways have just offered me upgrade to club Europe on me flight from Leeds to Heathrow on Saturday November 17th.
Is it worth the extra expense and do you get lounge access at LBA?

 

[KARFA]

British Airways have just offered me upgrade to club Europe on me flight from Leeds to Heathrow on Saturday November 17th.
Is it worth the extra expense and do you get lounge access at LBA?

I am guessing a £59 promotional upgrade on MMB? You would get all the usual club europe benefits if you take it. Sorry if you know some of this already, but i thought I would just note it all.

• access to business class check in desks, obviously not relevant if you are not doing bag drop
• fast track security, although unusually LBA gives all BA passengers access to fast track anyway so not a benefit here
• access to the lounge, in this case you get the white rose suite
• usually priority boarding, but because of the practical issues at LBA they don't do priority boarding anyway. however, being in CE you really do not need to worry about getting on early since there are fewer people in the CE cabin so you won't struggle to find space in the overhead
• free meal and drink onboard, as this is a circa 1120 departure you get brunch. they have just changed the whole of CE catering so I can't show you a photo, however I will be having that in a few weeks time so can post then. also teas, coffee, alcohol including champagne, soft drinks etc.
• CE cabin is the same 3x3 seats but the middle seat B an E are blocked and there is a table across it. The pitch is no different in CE vs ET, but ideally get a row 1 seat and you will have some more room. Row 1 is held back for golds until 3 days before, but once you get past that point if 1A/C/D/F are still available anyone in the CA cabin can select them
• increased avios and tier point earning, avios depends on what status level you are so 750 if blue, 875 if bronze, 1000 if silver, and 1250 if gold. tier points will be 40 regardless of status.

And I think that's it. Whether it is worth it is very subjective and personal, some would vehemently say no, some would say yes. I often do taken the upgrade on the LBA route, but sometimes I don't.

Hope that helps.

 

[KARFA]

@lbaspotter this is the last piece of the jigsaw to your question you asked about whether to take the upgrade. Friend of mine was on the BA1341 today and shared the following. Basically two choices were available. The menus apparently will rotate every few weeks so it’s possible you won’t specifically get these two, but it gives you a good idea of generally what you would get.

Also as noted a full bar will be available. LBA (and MAN) should be an easy 1 mini bottle of champagne. You should be able to manage 2 without too much rushing. It’s possible to do 3 but a short hold at LHR and use of a plastic cup for landing may be needed to accomplish that

 

[jason1-11]

Low 90's on this morning's BA1340.

Airport ghostly quiet with departure board showing a 4 hour gap between the BA departing back to LHR and then DUS ~ 15:00. Winter here we come :-(

 

[lbaspotter]

Well I wonder if the works being undertaken at London Kings Cross station over the next 2 years might tempt more people to use the British Airways London Heathrow to Leeds/Bradford route?
If so they may schedule in the larger Airbus A320 & A321 aircraft more often..

 

[Finger66]

I can hear it now. Speed bird 1341 heavy requesting start up. There's the alarm clock again lol

 

[LBAYORKIE]

On BA1347 this morning. 106 pax.

 

[Finger66]

Probably at a level where BA want it to be. Let's hope they see this meant they scaled back just a little too much. Night stopper anyone........oh we have been over that argument before. Commitment to LBA anyone.......oh they are not the only ones. Get that any operation has to be profitable but correct marketing and a bit of speculating to accumulate can work wonders