Future Infrastructure Developments

[HX3]

LBA4EVER here you go https://completelyretail.co.uk/scheme/Westside-Retail-Park-Guiseley

 

[LBA4EVER]

LBA4EVER here you go https://completelyretail.co.uk/scheme/Westside-Retail-Park-Guiseley

Wow thanks for the info, so yes its a fair size! Minus say the argos and tk maxx its the size of the rest of westside.

 

[Aviador]

This is the old plan. The extension can't change but the internal aspects can. Perhaps @White Heather might know if the new updated plan for the internal aspects of the design are significantly different?

 

[White Heather]

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This is the old plan. The extension can't change but the internal aspects can. Perhaps @White Heather might know if the new updated plan for the internal aspects of the design are significantly different?

There are similarities and some changes but we haven't seen proper layout plans yet for the revised interior.

 

[JRP]

Regarding aircraft standards, between stand 1 and stand 5 there is the hall b baggage area which I think was stand 2 originally and another building where stand 4 would have been, could these buildings not be moved or incorporated into the terminal designs, creating a few more stands without significant costs?

 

[White Heather]

Regarding aircraft standards, between stand 1 and stand 5 there is the hall b baggage area which I think was stand 2 originally and another building where stand 4 would have been, could these buildings not be moved or incorporated into the terminal designs, creating a few more stands without significant costs?

Not sure there's anywhere else they could put the Jet2 baggage area so it's a non starter. Not sure what's in the way at Stand 4. However, there's plenty of room up the other end where the new stands are planned.

 

[Jetchaser]

So travelled from LBA last year and I think we went from stand 10...anyway had to walk way down the bus shelter structure to what can only be described as a portacabin before boarding. I take it stands like this are being developed properly with the new plans as it was very embarrassing experience as I was with a friend from London, and I won't repeat his comments about the experience!!

 

[Aviador]

I agree with your sentiments @Jetchaser about the walkway and portacabin and I would like to see it go. It is my understanding the walkway is to go in stages as the terminal is improved. This has obviously been made more difficult now due to the difficulties with the planning process. Out of interest the people who installed the walkway did say at the time they were installing a similar structure at one of the London airports. I can't remember which one, possibly Southend.

 

[LBAYORKIE]

I agree with your sentiments @Jetchaser about the walkway and portacabin and I would like to see it go. It is my understanding the walkway is to go in stages as the terminal is improved. This has obviously been made more difficult now due to the difficulties with the planning process. Out of interest the people who installed the walkway did say at the time they were installing a similar structure at one of the London airports. I can't remember which one, possibly Southend.

The portacabin is definitely not desirable. Part of the problem is the airport haven't even tried to disguise it or improve it in any way. It's just a box!

 

[Aviador]

The portacabin is definitely not desirable. Part of the problem is the airport haven't even tried to disguise it or improve it in any way. It's just a box!

Yes this is true and I was told the cabin was only introduced to ease congestion within the terminal itself during the busiest periods so hopefully the extension will mean this hideous structure can go.

 

[AirBingley]

Some of the Jet2 staff call it the “Cookridge Suite” although it’s more like doing the walk of shame after a heavy night out! Anyway back to the positive future of a bright airy departure area with enough seats and loos for peak times! I’m hoping the lounges can keep an airside view as it would be such a shame to lose this!

 

[Len Fish]

Nothing wrong with PortaKabins. We had some as the sixth form block at Leeds Modern school at Lawnswood. Unfortunately there weren’t sixth former proof with gaping holes inside with insulation hanging out where chairs and desks had penetrated. Don’t ask how!

 

[White Heather]

Some of the Jet2 staff call it the “Cookridge Suite” although it’s more like doing the walk of shame after a heavy night out! Anyway back to the positive future of a bright airy departure area with enough seats and loos for peak times! I’m hoping the lounges can keep an airside view as it would be such a shame to lose this!

They do.

 

[Finger66]

Hear me out on this one. LGW planning major growth that they say will create 14,000 direct/indirect jobs that also has the support of local residents. Now I know we are talking different scales here but we have a backward thinking council being influenced by do-Gooders who just can’t see the economic benefits that an unrestricted LBA could bring. I am not just talking about night time quotas here but more about planning applications in general, Parkway delays, link road scrapped etc. Etc. Absolutely clueless!

 

[White Heather]

Hear me out on this one. LGW planning major growth that they say will create 14,000 direct/indirect jobs that also has the support of local residents. Now I know we are talking different scales here but we have a backward thinking council being influenced by do-Gooders who just can’t see the economic benefits that an unrestricted LBA could bring. I am not just talking about night time quotas here but more about planning applications in general, Parkway delays, link road scrapped etc. Etc. Absolutely clueless!

The country as a whole seems to have Councils who recognise the value of their airports, and who support them, and those who try to block development at every opportunity. Not much inbetween.

For years, Leeds City Council were in the latter group, even fighting against an airport they 40% owned at a public inquiry. Then, from the early 90s things changed with all schemes approved, albeit with terms and conditions relative to 24H (1994) that are now causing problems as the airport gets busier than its ever been.

It seems to me though that politics are at work again, and the plans panel has been infiltrated by Councillors who are either involved with the anti aviation group that shall not be named, or are involved in the so called green revolution, or are simply not prepared to make enemies of either , putting their own positions in front of the financial benefits to Leeds and the entire region brought by a successful airport.

What gets me wound up is that we have a Leeds Labour Council, whose official policy remains to support the development of LBA, but it's a policy that some Labour Councillors on the Council Planning Group ignore - apparently without any reprimand. Ironically, it was the Conservative Councillors who were responsible for pushing the new terminal plans through despite several Labour objections. Then we have the pathetic 5 Labour MPs, all of whom worked together to try to block it. Yet, over in Manchester, it's full steam ahead.

When the Government talks about Levelling Up, they now need to include levelling up the East and West of the Pennines, as the economic gap gets bigger, with Manchester progressing rapidly whilst here, one airport closes and the other quickly finds itself constrained by archaic restrictions imposed in 1994 - a different era in terms of aviation development.

Clearly, Labour have no particular policy on aviation. Their leader stated he wasn't opposed to airport development, yet his Sidekick Chancellor, a Southerner masquerading as a Leeds MP, openly opposes LBA. If they win power at the next election, then stagnation seems to be the best we can hope for.

 

[Aviador]

Leeds City Council and the Leeds community at large needs to be told what is at stake here. We are losing out on well paid engineering jobs as companies like Jet2 move west to where their business is welcomed. There is absolutely no point in Leeds doing its own thing. Leeds' so-called commitment to saving the planet isn't exactly bringing about innovation to provide alternative jobs or industry. All it is doing is turning our city into a ghost town. A city that no-longer welcomes business.

 

[AndyL]

Amendments to the plans for the terminal extension are now on the Leeds City Council's planning portal

 

[Easy289]

It surely can't be too long before the long stay car park area is cordoned off for works to begin.

23/9/00184/MOD | Construction of a two/three storey extension to the main airport terminal building to provide an improved arrival hall, internal facilities including departure gates, retail and food and beverage outlets and new seat

publicaccess.leeds.gov.uk

 

[White Heather]

It surely can't be too long before the long stay car park area is cordoned off for works to begin.

23/9/00184/MOD | Construction of a two/three storey extension to the main airport terminal building to provide an improved arrival hall, internal facilities including departure gates, retail and food and beverage outlets and new seat

publicaccess.leeds.gov.uk

The contractor isn't appointed yet. All tenders are in, so the contractors will be interviewed and the successful contractor is due to be notified in August. Until then, there's no contractor to do any cordoning off . That's due to start in September according to LBA. Once it starts the contractors will be about until 2026!

 

[dmrodgers]

Am I being unduly worried that this, however small a set of amendments it is, could delay the start of the new extension knowing LCC who could reject the changes.