Future Infrastructure Developments

[Seasider]

The thing I liked about it, was that you will be able to see the apron from the departure lounge.

 

[leedslad]

Not sure if "creating an airport yorkshire can be proud of" is quite correct.

It's steel girders with a tin roof and plastic walls.

More like "creating an airport west and north Yorkshire can adequately use to meet their basic holiday needs"

Might also be able to add "and soon to add a bus to a nearby train halt"

 

[a300boy]

Probably have blinds on the windows and you will have to pay to remove them !
Oh and this is just a joke !

 

[LBA8098]

In respect of phase 2 am I correct in thinking current check in Hall B will be extended to become the sole check in hall with current Hall A becoming an arrivals meeters and greeters area?

 

[LBA8098]

3 double sized belts

 

[White Heather]

3 double sized belts

So effectively a doubling of current capacity and as they are new, they might actually all work!

 

[rmac]

I thought Leedslad's comments were a bit too negative. It must be disappointing if you are in LBA management to hear comments that all they are doing is creating an airport that locals are not really proud of in spite of all the money being spent. After all the airport is only a medium sized airport fulfilling the needs of West and North Yorkshire and I think doing it well. Yes there is scope for expansion hence the reason to expand the facilities and it will happen. The airport almost landed two European destinations in Munich and maybe Madrid but events have put that on hold. At least two airlines did research and concluded there was a market for increased services to Leeds. That's positive. I do agree that the airport needs to present a favourable impression for business travellers when arriving in the city, but both the city and the airport need to consider this. The Parkway rail station is a good example of this. How good to inform a visiting client/colleague that you can land at Leeds say from Munich and be in Leeds city station within 45mins, depending on good connections etc.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

I thought Leedslad's comments were a bit too negative. It must be disappointing if you are in LBA management to hear comments that all they are doing is creating an airport that locals are not really proud of in spite of all the money being spent. After all the airport is only a medium sized airport fulfilling the needs of West and North Yorkshire and I think doing it well. Yes there is scope for expansion hence the reason to expand the facilities and it will happen. The airport almost landed two European destinations in Munich and maybe Madrid but events have put that on hold. At least two airlines did research and concluded there was a market for increased services to Leeds. That's positive. I do agree that the airport needs to present a favourable impression for business travellers when arriving in the city, but both the city and the airport need to consider this. The Parkway rail station is a good example of this. How good to inform a visiting client/colleague that you can land at Leeds say from Munich and be in Leeds city station within 45mins, depending on good connections etc.

People will always moan about airports. My local is BRS on which well over £300 million has been spent on infrastructure improvements/extentions this century with a continual expansion of the terminal that was only opened in 2000, with another £60 million currently in the course of being spent.

Yet frequently in the local press comments section some members of the public have described the airport in terms such as: 'A Micky Mouse airport'; 'An airstrip in a field'; 'A joke, not a real airport'; 'Trumpton International'; and many other derogatory remarks.

 

[leedslad]

Didn't mean to be too negative after years of little or no serious investment. However it's frustrating when you look at Liverpool and DSA glass terminals versus the tin shed being put up... Given investment is so infrequent at Leeds we'll be stuck with it for decades. If it looks bad on day one imagine it in twenty years... I then find it a bit rich stating Yorkshire should be proud of it... Leeds is a top 5 UK city before you even consider Bradford too...

 

[Finger66]

This comes back down to the whole infrastructure of LBA itself, the wider area and access to/from the airport. We have what we have - which we all know is not ideal. But there is lots going on with the terminal extension, proposed link road and rail link. Add in a few more parking stands and things won't be too bad. We won't get to ideal because of the weather and the field location. Human nature is to want everything yesterday but the developments that are happening will be real before you know it. I remember as a lad when Dan Air said they were going to introduce the 146 on to LBA - JER and at that age it did seem a lifetime away. When my interest in aviation and especially LBA started I was always hoping for LBA to have a 1m (yes 1m) pax throughput. So are things really that bad today? Need I say more?

 

[Aviador]

One thing that does stand out in the walk through video is the large graphic signage. The large carousel numbers, the "Arrivals" and the large "Welcome to Yorkshire", I do hope they stay as part of the final fixtures and fittings of the building.

 

[Aviador]

Didn't mean to be too negative after years of little or no serious investment. However it's frustrating when you look at Liverpool and DSA glass terminals versus the tin shed being put up... Given investment is so infrequent at Leeds we'll be stuck with it for decades. If it looks bad on day one imagine it in twenty years... I then find it a bit rich stating Yorkshire should be proud of it... Leeds is a top 5 UK city before you even consider Bradford too...

I have a great admiration for good architecture so I can appreciate what you are saying. At this stage though, after many many years of what appears to be insignificant investment, something is finally happening and it should be applauded. Ultimately, it is the functionality of the new building which matters the most and overall I think we can be pleased with the proposals. If subsequent extensions can be added later to the same standard, potentially removing the need for the oldest part of the terminal in the future then we have to see this as good progression. At least we now have a company in charge of the airport willing to make the necessary changes. If the changes bear fruit, the company might be more willing to spend on larger infrastructure later.

 

[oldendays]

All the remodelling and expansion needs direction, needless to say. David Laws will be gone soon, if he isn't already. Is there a permanent replacement on the cards, or even just a temporary gaffer to keep things going ?

 

[White Heather]

Didn't mean to be too negative after years of little or no serious investment. However it's frustrating when you look at Liverpool and DSA glass terminals versus the tin shed being put up... Given investment is so infrequent at Leeds we'll be stuck with it for decades. If it looks bad on day one imagine it in twenty years... I then find it a bit rich stating Yorkshire should be proud of it... Leeds is a top 5 UK city before you even consider Bradford too...[/QUOTE

There is that negativity again Leedslad! So Peel Holdings went for glass terminals! Perhaps people complain they are too hot when the sun shines. But to call the new building at LBA a tin shed is ridiculous. It isn't a shed and it isn't tin either. Many airports are built to these standards. The one going up at LBA is very similar in design to the one built at Glasgow airport. How can you say it looks bad on day one when it isn't even built yet. It sounds to me as though you have taken a negative stance and intend sticking to it whatever happens at LBA. It is just so typical that finally we get a new building that will enable the transformation of LBA for passengers, and yet you are complaining about how the building looks and taking such a negative view before they have even laid down a brick.

All the remodelling and expansion needs direction, needless to say. David Laws will be gone soon, if he isn't already. Is there a permanent replacement on the cards, or even just a temporary gaffer to keep things going ?

David Laws moves over to AMP Capital as an advisor at the end of next week. They are advertising for a new CEO and until they get one, existing senior managers will run the airport. One of them, Simon Whitby, I know and he is a good guy with many years experience of running airports. He was previously at East Midlands during its major expansion years. Don't forget also that a few months ago the airport appointed a Chairman of the Board. They are not without leadership in the interim period. Given the endless negativity in and around this area with regard to whatever LBA management do, I am not surprised that he has quit. It is a thankless task. Someone posted recently on another forum that he did nothing at NCL and has done nothing at LBA. So wrong on both counts.

 

[leedslad]

To be fair they've released renders which they must be intending to stick to? Isn't it therefore reasonable to form an initial opinion based on that?

It's square with a flat roof and barely any windows... Doesn't look much different to an industrial warehouse you'd see by the M62 to me...

Yes of course expansion and investment are welcome, needed and long overdue...

Nobody wants positive development at the airport more than me, I'm there often enough! And to be honest wish I could be there more often if flight choice and transport were better...

Perhaps it's just as bad to blindly only see the positives as to hold higher ambition and be critical where not met?

 

[leedslad]

M62 shed:

https://images.app.goo.gl/sX48bMugNxbFW2PY7

New airport shed

https://images.app.goo.gl/ggfzBDGVJeqwezYw5

 

[LBA4EVER]

The Lba shed has the slight edge over the m62 shed though. Any idea of the cost difference?

 

[LBA4EVER]

Am I wrong here or not but the new lba terminal does have a half glass front? I do actually like it and that’s coming from me! Lol

 

[Hendi]

Regarding the terminal expansion. In the video we see gates numbered 7,8 and 9 i'm assuming these are to be new gates in the new building? based on the floor plan of the current terminal on lba's website are the current gates going to be re numbered and and the whole area opened up with the new part so we have one large departures area with however many gates they can get in or are the old and new parts been kept separate? Or dont we know that far ahead yet? Forgive me if its a daft question, I have little knowledge of the terminal lay out having never flown out of lba. I am impressed with it though it looks good and from some of the negative comments e.g. cramped, no room at gates etc I see it should make a significant improvment

 

[Aviador]

I noticed that too but then again, the gates didn't match the stand numbers from the outside view of the rendering did they? I think it's probably more likely to be an error.