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ls27

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The new livery for buses on the 965 look good. I think that Transdev will relish the use of the old Yorkshire Tiger depot as a platform for further expansion in the West Yorkshire Region,
 

Bigman

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Is that the depot at Idle? Please tell me more as this is the first I have heard of this.
 

ls27

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Yes it is the depot at Idle. Transdev moved into the depot when Yorkshire Tiger lost all the routes in the Bradford Area during the new Tendering Process, which just left them the Airport routes. So they were probably not viable as the nearest Tiger Depots are Waterloo in Huddersfield or Elland. They run all the Airport routes from there and also the 784 to Skipton. The Tender for the Airports routes is worth about £1.3m to Transdev. The routes are licenced to Yorkshire Coastliner. I think that the Idea that the 784 may extend to the airport seems good as the bus will only have to do dead mileage from the Airport to Idle and not from Ilkley
 

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Posted on another forum by Leeds City Councillor, Johnathan Taylor:-

Consultation opening on Monday for the proposed Parkway Station

The LBA Parkway is a West Yorkshire Combined Authority led scheme to provide a new rail station on the existing Harrogate Line, between Horsforth Station and the southern end of the Bramhope tunnel.

The objective of the Parkway Station is to ease current congestion and associated air quality issues by improving access by public transport and by encouraging fewer people to drive to the airport.

Further information on the scheme including details of how to get involved in the engagement will be available on the below webpage from Monday 18 January until 21 February.

https://www.yourvoice.westyorks-ca.gov.uk/login
 

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Full details of the Airport - Otley bus service changes coming in February.

Changes explained in brief
  • Service 62 will be curtailed to run Keighley - IIkley only
  • Service 784 Will be curtailed to run Skipton - IIkley only - 1+ peak time (weekday) journey continues to extend to Otley
  • Otley Dash 965 replaces 62 between Otley - Menston.
  • Wharfedale links 962 replaces 62 & 784 between Otley - IIkley
  • Flyer A3 existing Bradford - Shipley - Guiseley - Yeadon - Airport extended to replace 62 between Airport - Otley via Poo
  • Flyer A2 Minor timetable changes. 1st trip from Bradford to Airport (Mon-Sat) extended to Harrogate
  • NO changes to Wharfedale Links routes 966 and 948
For full details see either following link or Quoted below.


We’re bringing better links to Otley and Ilkley from 21 Feb​

Yesterday Fri 15th Jan 2021

An upgraded link to Leeds Bradford Airport, Shipley and Bradford, newer buses, better connections with the trains and added stops in response to local feedback. Our 21 February changes make Otley and Ilkley better connected, in comfort and in style.
Here we’ve summarised what’s changing and how our new timetables will look. We’ll be adding pdf timetables for you to download soon – follow us on Twitter @keighleybus to be the first to know.

What’s changing in and around Otley

Otley Dash is our new look for Otley’s 965 – we’re bringing you newer buses with USB power, Wifi, next-stop announcements, comfier seats and a smarter new look.

Otley dash bus



For the first time, the route will be extended beyond the Town Centre to Menston Rail Station.

Otley Dash - Menston Rail Station–Otley–Wharfedale Hospital–Weston - will have a better 30 minute frequency link to the rail station, timed for the best connections with trains from Leeds.

We’ll be adding a full Otley Dash timetable here shortly. Here’s how buses will be running:

Monday to Friday - buses every 30 minutes from 6.35am to around 7pm. Buses continue every 30 minutes in an evening between Otley, Wharfedale Hospital and Weston until 11pm.

Saturday - buses every 30 minutes from 8am to around 7pm. Buses to and from Menston rail station start a little earlier at 7am, and buses continue in an evening between Otley, Wharfedale Hospital and Weston until 11pm.

Sunday - buses run every 30 minutes between Otley, Wharfedale Hospital and Weston from 9am to 11pm.
After these changes on 21 Feb, Wharfedale Links 962 will no longer run into Menston because customers will be able to use Otley Dash instead. 962 also has changes around Ilkley – check our summary of what’s changing in and around Ilkley here.

FLYER A3 will be Otley’s new link to Pool, Leeds Bradford Airport, Shipley and Bradford.
Replacing the current link on the 62, FLYER A3 will provide a bus every hour to Pool and the airport and direct on to Shipley and Bradford too, 7 days a week!

jan 2021 flyer map


We’ll be adding a full FLYER A3 timetable here shortly. Here’s how buses will be running:

Monday to Saturday – buses run hourly from around 7.30am to 11pm.

Sunday - buses run hourly from around 9am to 11pm.

For more information about FLYER, including tickets and huge discounts for airport colleagues, take a look at our FLYER page here.

After these changes on 21 Feb, the 62 will no longer run into Otley and to Leeds Bradford Airport, because customers will be able to use FLYER instead.

Some times on FLYER A2 – Bradford - Guiseley - Yeadon - Leeds Bradford Airport - Harrogate – will be changing on 21 February too.

A small number of departure times are changing, and the first trip from Bradford Monday-Saturday is extended to run all the way through to Harrogate rather than finishin at the airport.

We’ll link a new A2 timetable here shortly.

What’s changing in and around Ilkley


Wharfedale Links – to complement our investment in Otley Dash, we’re bringing you newer buses to Wharfedale links too, packed with handy features like with USB power, Wifi, next-stop announcements and comfier seats.

wharfedale links


962 which runs between Ilkley, Burley and Otley, will also serve Albany Walk in Ilkley, in response to feedback from local residents and councillors. The route includes Albany Walk, Wells Walk and Queens Road. We’ll upload a new map here soon.

We’ll be adding a full 962 timetable here shortly. Buses will be running every hour between 9am and 4pm.

The 962 won’t call into Menston after the changes, because the Otley-Menston Station link will be served by Otley Dash.
There are no changes to Wharfedale Links routes 966 and 948, which you can check the current times for here.

The 62 will change route to run only between Keighley and Ilkley.

Customers travelling between Otley and Leeds Bradford Airport will be able to use FLYER A3, which also provides a new direct link to Pool, Shipley and Bradford.

We’ll be adding a full 62 timetable here shortly. Here’s how buses will be running:

Monday to Friday – buses will be running every 30 minutes through the day. Early buses start around 6.30am and later buses run until around 11pm.

Saturday - buses will be running every 30 minutes between 7.30am and 11pm.

Sunday - the first buses run at around 10am, then buses run hourly between 12noon and 11pm.

784 will change route to run between Ilkley and Skipton. This is the same route as we’re using now, after our 10 January changes.

The first and last journeys of the day Monday to Friday will still extend to and from Otley, so we can continue to provide enough seats for college students.

Check the timetable here.

Customers travelling between Ilkley and Otley will be able to use Wharfedale Links 962, with hourly departures Monday to Saturday.

Keep up to date with the latest news

Remember you can follow us on Twitter @keighleybus or Facebook for the very latest news, and message us if you have any questions about these changes.
 
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Surely this is positive news if LCC are releasing new pics of the parkway station. Would they be doing this if the new terminal was not going ahead?
yes i agree positive news and great to see an image which looks a pretty decent station with large car park and large turning point at the end for the buses. hopefully the new terminal and the station will be approved, the LBA parkway station is a selling point for the new terminal so if it looks likely it will get the go ahead surely LBA will get its terminal due to location!
 

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Surely this is positive news if LCC are releasing new pics of the parkway station. Would they be doing this if the new terminal was not going ahead?

Is the LBA parkway station been project been run by Leeds City Council or the West Yorkshire Combined Authority, Or is it a mix of both?
 

White Heather

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At £42m I think it's insanity that they're building 2 platforms and a car park.
Well you would. We know your desire for a heavy rail link to the airport, which you continue to pursue despite it already being discounted. The car park is a much needed park and ride scheme - something NW Leeds doesn't have. So this scheme is dual purpose and the cost has to be seen as such.
 

leedslad

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Putting heavy rail to one side, the £42m would be better spent on the tram or tram-train solution... It's a scandalous amount for a P&R.

Even if initially there was a heavy rail to tram/tram-train interchange for the last mile or two that would be a superior solution and better use of money. At least then the future direct route is already built.

Also think about future business cases... If this white elephant is built then it'll appear there is next to zero demand for rail to the airport.

Furthermore the base case will change drastically meaning the cost benefit of future tram link much diminished. Today the base case is the lengthy bus ride to the city... So the benefit is huge. The Parkway delivers say 50% of the benefit of a direct link. So once built the base case is much higher so the cost benefit much worse.

By them insisting this is a P&R it's pushed the cost hugely due to land assembly, earth works etc. Yet just a mile away the airport owns acres of parking space that is already built. If they were smart they could exchange some of the parking space with the airport... The airport gets direct tram link and the cost of land assembly and earthworks for parking vastly reduces...
 

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I think we need both. We need more integrated transport, if this can relieve some of the traffic from the A65 and through Headingley offering as a P&R (as well as an airport train station) then I welcome it. Apperley Bridge has probably reached full (pre Covid) now and therefore we need another station that can act as a relief for Apperley Bridge (moving customers away from one to the other station) whilst also taking some of the Leeds bound commuter traffic from Rawdon, Yeadon, Otley, Pool and surrounding areas.

I'd also welcome spending and a budget for a tram system throughout Leeds. But sadly Leeds and it's council have never really been forward thinking when it comes to things such as transport. A tram system and affordable buses for all would be welcomed with this region.
 

leedslad

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But then Platform Zero at Leeds City Station cost £161 m
I assume it must have also included re doing the layout on approach, but even so it seems in unbelievable amount of money for some electric poles, a short stretch of rail and a breeze block platform...
 
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