Road, Rail & Access Issues

[EX9]

The diversion signs upon leaving the airport have been directing vehicles to turn right onto the A658, as detailed by the article/council.

Anyone with local knowledge and any common sense, would use Warren House Lane but there is definitely a political reason they have not sent traffic towards Cemetery Road.
The cars parked in the vicinity of the tarn on the road can be an issue but I don't think it would be a massive impact during those hours.

 

[LBAYORKIE]

The diversion signs upon leaving the airport have been directing vehicles to turn right onto the A658, as detailed by the article/council.

Anyone with local knowledge and any common sense, would use Warren House Lane but there is definitely a political reason they have not sent traffic towards Cemetery Road.
The cars parked in the vicinity of the tarn on the road can be an issue but I don't think it would be a massive impact during those hours.

Anyone with a Satnav will be made aware of the shortest route.

 

[paully]

Sounds like the Council are telling porkies?

What!!!!!!Well there's novelty......

 

[ls27]

Just going back to what has been said about the access to LBA I was looking at some of my papers today and I came across a copy of the spec. for the carriageways and the tunnel . If any one would like to look at it, I will copy the specs out.

 

[Aviador]

Just going back to what has been said about the access to LBA I was looking at some of my papers today and I came across a copy of the spec. for the carriageways and the tunnel . If any one would like to look at it, I will copy the specs out.

Yes please

 

[ls27]

The runway extension is 604 m long and consists of an air entrained pavement quality concrete slab, 45.7 m wide 300 mm thick slab on 150 mm dry lean concrete with 7.62 m wide bituminous hard shoulders.
660,00 cu m of fill was required for the embankment
The A658 diversion is approx 700 m of dual 7.3 wide carriageways. The tunnel is 237 m long and is of a cut and cover construction. Other length of roads involved are
White House Lane 900 m at 7.3 m wide carriageway
Warren House Lane 650 m at 6 m wide carriage way
Cemetery Rd 800 m at 6 m wide carriage way
Haw Lane 100 m at 6 m wide carriage way
Terminal Access Rd 550 m at 7,3 m wide.
The contract value was £7.3 million + increased costs
. The contract was estimated at 130 weeks and the contractor was Dowsett Engineering of Harrogate
The lighting of the runway, and airfield lighting contract value £1.1 million was
let to N.G.Bailey of Ilkley
In 1982 when the contract was written LBA had a diversion rate of 363 landings per 10,000 intended landings. It was estimated that with the improved lighting and navigation aids this figure would be reduced to 1/3rd of that figure.
With a terminal extension contract expected to be issued at that time it was expected that the airport will be capable of handling large modern jet aircraft, the through put would reach one million passenger movements per annum!

 

[oldendays]

The runway extension will be forty years old in just over a fortnight.

 

[Jetchaser]

In 1982 when the contract was written LBA had a diversion rate of 363 landings per 10,000 intended landings. It was estimated that with the improved lighting and navigation aids this figure would be reduced to 1/3rd of that figure.

Does anyone know what the diversion rate is in recent years?

 

[Aviador]

Does anyone know what the diversion rate is in recent years?

Less than 1%

 

[Len Fish]

https://www.transdevbus.co.uk/flyer/news/were-making-changes-to-our-times-from-23-feb/?

 

[The Pole]

https://www.transdevbus.co.uk/flyer/news/were-making-changes-to-our-times-from-23-feb/?

Changes, to what? Running a service???? The 8am in horsforth to Leeds has been cancelled several times each week since the new year, one week was 4 days of the 5 work days! I have emailed them and they dont reply.
They are as bad if not worse than First!

 

[Len Fish]

Neither are as bad as Arriva Yorkshire. Constant cancellations, filthy buses inside and out, the main Wakefield garage closed due to it being condemned as unsafe, no electric buses and no investment due to the uncertainty regarding contacts under Tracy Breadbins franchising plans. Just be grateful they don’t run the airport service!

 

[ls27]

Well they getting some more second hand buses!!!

 

[Snackbar]

Interesting to see WYCA approved another £250,000 on the proposed Parkway station at the end of 2024 which included £65k on developing the minimum viable product (as WH mentioned from the last ACC meeting)….Total project cost looks to have escalated to £65.5m! It’s covered in page 296 of the attached https://westyorkshire.moderngov.co.uk/documents/g1401/Public reports pack 30th-Jan-2025 11.00 West Yorkshire Combined Authority.pdf?T=10

Also to add more - Interesting what you find out when browsing WYCA docs…..LBA and its surface access issues feature in this doc which was adopted also at the end of 2024….mention is made at how it is constraining growth and agglomeration of benefits- seems the message may be finally landing about the benefits LBA bring…..page 23 onwards refers….https://westyorkshire.moderngov.co.uk/documents/g1400/Public%20reports%20pack%2012th-Dec-2024%2011.00%20West%20Yorkshire%20Combined%20Authority.pdf?T=10

 

[Aviador]

Government funding has finally been released for Dawsons Corner, a major access route and bottleneck to Leeds Bradford Airport.

The proposed layout will significantly improve traffic flow and provide new bus and cycle lanes.


The work is planned to start later this year take up to 15 months to complete.

#LBAAccess #LeedsRingRoad #DawsonsCorner

 

[JRP]

Government funding has finally been released for Dawsons Corner, a major access route and bottleneck to Leeds Bradford Airport.

The proposed layout will significantly improve traffic flow and provide new bus and cycle lanes.

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The work is planned to start later this year take up to 15 months to complete.

#LBAAccess #LeedsRingRoad #DawsonsCorner

Oh God
If it’s been designed by the so called experts at Leeds City Clownsal it will probably make the traffic flow worse than it already is, they seem to be making a habit of making a mess of road schemes all across Leeds, look at all the money spent at Armley Gyratory as a local to the area it’s worse than ever

 

[Aviador]

Oh God
If it’s been designed by the so called experts at Leeds City Clownsal it will probably make the traffic flow worse than it already is, they seem to be making a habit of making a mess of road schemes all across Leeds, look at all the money spent at Armley Gyratory as a local to the area it’s worse than ever

My cynicism too. What is also apparent with every project #LeedsCityClowncil is in charge of takes way too long to complete. They're saying it will take 15 months to complete, my bet is it will probably be more like 24 months but we'll see.

 

[White Heather]

My cynicism too. What is also apparent with every project #LeedsCityClowncil is in charge of takes way too long to complete. They're saying it will take 15 months to complete, my bet is it will probably be more like 24 months but we'll see.

To be fair, the East Leeds Orbital road, better known now as the (new) Leeds Outer Ring Road, is superb. It's made a huge difference. But we needed something like that in NW Leeds even more . The absence of open land to build such a road on is the problem from West Park through to Horsforth.

My immediate observation on the plans for Dawsons Corner is that it will be better by far, but in busy periods, there will still be a queue heading towards the junction from the Leeds direction, because the lanes split off towards Bradford and Horsforth too close to the junction. They should widen the Ring Road for the last quarter mile so that Bradford traffic and the rest are already separated. Only possible with an extra lane. As it is, there'll still be a tail back of all traffic towards Owlcotes before the Bradford traffic splits from the rest.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

As @White Heather points out the orbital road has made a huge difference to the journey to east of Leeds. To the point you don’t notice the amount of traffic till Moortown as it’s so “empty”. I’m not sure what difference it’s made to the previous route through cross gates etc but one imagines significant.

Sadly they are confined to the spaces of the roundabout. This could work but only if common sense is applied to the traffic light system which on some roundabout’s or junctions not.

 

[Aviador]

The orbital road is great. It would have been even better if it continued to the airport and then onto Dawsons Corner. Sadly though, the orbital road won't be good for long as houses are popping up there at ten to a dozen. Before you know it, it will be just another choked Leeds road.